Haali Media splitter hostile take over off my computer?

[magnusr]

I had a thing called haali media splitter installed that followed with a matroska lite package. I uninstalled it (Just installed it to watch a movie).

After i did this i couldnt play back MP4 AVC hdtv files in media player 10.

So i tested to play those files in:

Intervideo windvd 7 (didnt playback correct skipping)
Moonlight-Elecard MPEG Player 3.0 (almost displayed no frames)
PowerDVD 6 (didnt play correct either)

Now what is wrong? How can haali media splitter be important?

I have played back these files on computers who dont have haali media splitter installed without problems.

I installed haali media splitter again and it works in media player 10 again, but not the other aplications. What has haali media splitter done to my computer?

Windvd 7, powerdvd 6 and elcard player should play those files fine. But now they dont anymore. What has happend?

Pls help. Thx

[Audionut]

This should be in the containers subforum.

I do not know the cause of your problems. However, you could uninstall halli's media splitter, and then reinstall taking care to disable the option to handle MP4 files. And let the splitter only handle MKV files.

[ChronoCross]

you have to reset your filter priotity for mkv, mp4, and avi. depening on the installation decision you made.

[magnusr]

Doing that caused the picture to be etremly fast showing frames at like 4x speed (just guessing), with audio comming in correct. But then ofc since video is way to fast audio and video is out of sync.

And sometimes it showes only some frames. Moves extremly fast with like one frame at pause, then showes another one a while later.

This Haali package has caused some problems after beeing removed. And installing f example powerdvd 6 after that uninstall of haali, will still keep the video messed up in powerdvd.

And same problem in the other applications as before.

[Audionut]

Whoa. I reread your post.

To play back AVC encoded files you need these:

1. The file itself.
2. A splitter that opens the file and sends the content to the relevant decoders.
3. Decoders to decode the content of the file.
4. A media player.


I had a thing called haali media splitter
I uninstalled it

After i did this i couldnt play back MP4 AVC hdtv files in media player 10.

Now what is wrong? How can haali media splitter be important?


When you uninstalled the media splitter, you no longer have No.2 above. So you lost a link from the chain and you can no longer play the files.


I have played back these files on computers who dont have haali media splitter installed without problems.

Those other computer have different MP4 splitter.

MP4 AVC hdtv files.

And sometimes it showes only some frames. Moves extremly fast with like one frame at pause, then showes another one a while later.

What is the specs on that file, and your computer. To playback Hi-Def files you need the coreavc decoder and/or a computer with enough power to be able to play back the content.

[magnusr]

I solved the problem.

1. Uninstalling Haal media splitter.
(at this point video is fast and out of sync with audio).
2. Uninstall nero.
3 Install nero again.

Problem solved.

Haal media splitter screws something up for the nero h264 codec. And when its removed it dosent even fix it again. Needs a removal and install of nero again.

0 > Haal Media splitter ^^

[Audionut]

Post a bug report.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=80762

[clsid]

The problem was probably that you didn't have a H.264 decoder like CoreAVC or ffdshow. Using Nero filters together with anything else than Nero stuff itself usually screws thing up. It's not really Haali's fault if Nero's decoders won't play nice.

[magnusr]

well it plays h264 excelent in windows media player 10 now with neros codec.

And it worked before haali media splitter was installed also. After haali media splitter was uninstalled h264 playback was screwed.

Required a uninstall then a new install of nero to get it to work again.

So whatever haali did when it got installed, wasnt fixed in haalis uninstall program. So its haalis fault.

Easy conclusion. Haali needs to fix whatever it changes during install so that it corrects it during a uninstall.

And another scary thing is that neither powerdvd 6, windvd 7 or Moonlight-Elecard MPEG Player 3.0 managed to display h264 correctly after haali was uninstalled. All of these 3 programs should be able to display h264. And they come with a h264 codec.

But nero reinstall corrected whatever bug haali made during uninstall.


And as a note i have the newest version of ffdshow installed also. But that didnt work either after haali was uninstalled. So go figure.

0 > haali media splitter imo.

[foxyshadis]

This is really just one of directshow's weaknesses, misconfigured installers can really mess things up. To restore you can almost always run a repair on nero, instead of a full reinstall, or if you know how, just reregister its filters.

PM him with a report listing the versions of his and nero, he might need specific information from you if he can't reproduce it.

[videomixer9]

Nero got it's own splitters for stuff that are known to badly fuck up your system, to get rid of playback problems just unregister ndparser.ax from the nero package. Nero doesn't care about your system or anything, they just care about their own software being able to play stuff. If your system is fucked up by Nero they'll bet that you come running and buy their crappy media stuff.

Easiest to avoid this problems is to not use any of the junk directshow filters that come with nero. Nero abuses the merit system and more in DirectShow to make itself the handler of anything.

Also just don't install any of this commercial crapware like Elecard, Moonlight, PowerDVD or WinDVD etc. and just use haali media splitter and ffdshow on a clean system and you have anything you need for playback. MPC may also help. I have yet to see a commercial package that isn't thinking that it is the center of your media playback world.

MPC + ffdshow + haali works for me for almost anything since ages sufficently for most mpeg video content. The complete package of commercial media players is a big waste of money.

[magnusr]

Yea but what kinda hardware support for my 7800gtx are we talking about when using ffdshow? I guess none.

Nero gives me a hardware/dxva option. I dont really know if its the codec or player that needs to support it, or the driver for that matter, or all 3?

[videomixer9]

Yeah that's the industries scheme, announce great features that need you to spent extra bucks again and again, honestly nvidia should be taken to court for that shit acceleration as costumer fraud. Someone in the US do it!

[Rumbah]

As far as I know the hardware acceleration in Nero (dxva) does not work at all. You can check the dxva option but it does not change anything.

[BlackSharkfr]

Forget about nero's acceleration, CoreAVC(full software rendering) does better than nero accelerated
http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/16/IMG0016450.gif
http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/16/IMG0016453.gif

[multicone]

Problem is easy to explain :

In DirectShow, file splitters dont use a merit system. The one thats installed last, is the one thats used. You installed Haali and select it for MP4. Now its the one used.

The you deinstall it. DirectShow now can NOT 'remember' what splitter it had used before, so you dont have any splitter for MP4 anymore. This requires Nero reinstall, so you have a MP4 splitter again.

M$ are bastards. They did this because they knew nobody would ever be able to program a 3rd party ASF/WMV splitter :evil: .....

[kikker]

Sorry to revive an old thread, but is that ^^^^ correct?

Aren't the built-in splitters restored upon an uninstall/deregistration of a 3rd party splitter, and this restoration is not dependent on a proper uninstall provided by the developer?

[clsid]

Other source filters are not replaced nor removed.

There is a way to force a specific source filter to always be used for a certain file extension. Filter merits will be ignored then. Haali uses this method. You can find it in this registry key:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions

[killerhex]

well im aving trouble playing a file

avc 720x480 output 853x480 16/9 its plays as 720x480 and doesnt recognize the anamorphic resolution this is after i installed the new update of haali

anyone else had this kind of problems