Constant Gardener: Voblanker screw up dvd

[knife]

Hi folks,

Finally I got a problematic DVD :sly:
I rip the DVD decrypter in filemode and get a "pack header" problem at the end. Googled about it and found other people with same behaviour of that disc.
Here is the log:

:06:58 Destination Folder: F:\CONSTANT GARDNER\VIDEO_TS\
I 15:06:58 File Splitting: By File
I 15:06:58 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 15:06:58 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 15:06:58 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 15:06:58 Stream Processing: No
I 15:06:58 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 310 - 317) - KEY: N/A
I 15:07:00 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 318 - 426) - KEY: N/A
I 15:07:00 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 443 - 450) - KEY: N/A
I 15:07:01 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 451 - 460) - KEY: N/A
I 15:07:01 Decrypting VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 461 - 465) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 65
I 15:07:01 Decrypting VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 466 - 80224) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 65
I 15:08:01 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 80241 - 80250) - KEY: N/A
I 15:08:01 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 80251 - 80260) - KEY: N/A
I 15:08:01 Decrypting VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 80261 - 80265) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 66
I 15:08:02 Decrypting VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 80266 - 286204) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 66
I 15:10:18 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 286221 - 286230) - KEY: N/A
I 15:10:18 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 286231 - 286288) - KEY: N/A
I 15:10:18 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 286289 - 301048) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:10:27 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 301049 - 825320) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:15:02 Decrypting VTS_03_2.VOB... (LBA: 825321 - 1349592) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:18:42 Decrypting VTS_03_3.VOB... (LBA: 1349593 - 1873864) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:21:52 Decrypting VTS_03_4.VOB... (LBA: 1873865 - 2398136) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:24:52 Decrypting VTS_03_5.VOB... (LBA: 2398137 - 2922408) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:28:14 Decrypting VTS_03_6.VOB... (LBA: 2922409 - 3446680) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
I 15:32:13 Decrypting VTS_03_7.VOB... (LBA: 3446681 - 3799945) - KEY: C0 3B 9A CA 67
W 15:35:29 Sector 3795674 - Pack Header Not Found (0x44564456)
.....................
W 15:35:30 Sector 3795773 - Pack Header Not Found (0x00000000)
W 15:35:30 Arrrrgggh! Too Many 'Pack Header Not Found' Warnings!
W 15:35:30 'Pack Header Not Found' logging has been halted for now.
I 15:35:32 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP... (LBA: 3799962 - 3800019) - KEY: N/A
W 15:35:32 On-the-fly IFO/BUP file patching failed!
W 15:35:32 File Name: VTS_03_0.BUP
W 15:35:32 Size: 118*784 bytes
W 15:35:32 Reason: Invalid IFO / BUP file.

After ripping the I can play the ripped DVD without problems.
If I do a FixVTS or vobblanker with default the ouput is unusable. Only the VOBID 1 out of 9 is intact. The main movie is VOBID 1 and 2 => "half" the movie gone.

I identified the pack-header problems to the very end of VTST3,8 which is part of the "extras". Main movie is contained in single VTST 3.1.

For me the log file from vobblanker is strange compared to decrypter, one could belive that it was completely different discs.

=========== STARTING VTS_03 ====================
VTS 03: Opening IFO
VTS 03: Processing VOB (Menus)
--------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
VTS 03: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
VTS 03: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 02
VTS 03: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 03
VTS 03: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 04
--------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 04/01 --> 04/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 05/01 --> 05/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 06/01 --> 06/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 07/01 --> 07/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 08/01 --> 08/01
--------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
VTS 03: Cell data array filled (Menus)
VTS 03: Processing IFO (Menu)
Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in LU 1, PGC 1
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in LU 1, PGC 2
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in LU 1, PGC 3
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in LU 1, PGC 4
Building VTSM_C_ADT table
Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
VTS 03: Processing VOB (Titles)
--------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 01
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 02
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 03
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 04
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 05
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 06
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 07
VTS 03: Keeping PGC 08
--------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/02 --> 01/02
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/03 --> 01/03
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/04 --> 01/04
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/05 --> 01/05
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/06 --> 01/06
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/07 --> 01/07
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/08 --> 01/08
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/09 --> 01/09
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/10 --> 01/10
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/11 --> 01/11
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/12 --> 01/12
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/13 --> 01/13
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/14 --> 01/14
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/02 --> 02/02
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/03 --> 02/03
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/04 --> 02/04
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/05 --> 02/05
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/06 --> 02/06
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/07 --> 02/07
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 04/01 --> 04/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 05/01 --> 05/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 06/01 --> 06/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 07/01 --> 07/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 08/01 --> 08/01
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 09/01 --> 09/01
WARNING: Packs unsynchronized. Skipping packs...
WARNING: No Navs found!: outputting a blank cell
A total of 4272 packs have been skipped
--------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
VTS 03: Cell data array filled (Titles)
VTS 03: Processing IFO (Titles)
Looping into Title PGCs and cells
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 16
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 17
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 18
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 19
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 20
Setting STC discontinuity flag, not reflected in original IFO: PGC 1, Cell 21
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 1
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 1
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 2
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 2
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 3
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 3
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 4
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 4
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 5
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 5
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 6
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 6
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 7
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 7
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Next PGCN to itself in PGC 8
PGCN Pointer: Pointing Prev PGCN to itself in PGC 8
Processing TMPATI table
Building VTS_C_ADT table
Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
VTS 03: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
=========== VTS_03 FINISHED =====================



PostCommands changed into Precommands in 0 PGCs of a total of 0

Finished. No Errors, 14 Warnings

Maybe someone that encounted the same disc have some experience to share ?

//Knife

[kmac61]

I don't remember anything unusual about that title - try reripping with dvdd with check for structure ptotection enabled

[knife]

to tell that this is the swedish release.
I have tried all combinations.

I found something unusual:
According to PGCEDIT and vobblanker the main movie reside in V/C 1/1 to 1/14 and 2/1 to 2/7.
When I prepare it in DVD Rebuilder it states in the viewer that the main movie reside in V/C 1/1 to 1/14 and 6/1 to 6/7.
Yes that is right 6/1 to 6/7 and not 2/1 to 2/7.
This really smells like something I never seen before.

//Knife

[setarip_old]

The Region 1 version of "The Constant Gardener" contained no special/newer copy protection and, therefore, should not require using VOBBlanker.

Try cleaning your DVD and then again using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 to rip. If you get the same (or similar) error message regarding .IFOs or .BUPs, return the DVD to the place of purchase in exchange for a new replacement...

[nwg]

The Swedish version of the DVD cannot be backed up. It is like there is some sort of production problem.

Cleaning the disc won't make a difference or even swapping it for a new DVD.

A little bit more info.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63673

[knife]

nmg: thanks for the link
setarip_old: its clean, it must be something from production, several disc with same decrypter.log

If it is a production problem I really hope that they do not find a way to replicate it.
- The DVD plays fine in all players
- You can ripp it
- You can't change anything in the movie VTS, if you do it's screwed.

Sound like a big time protection

Follow up on pgcedit,voblanker versus Rebuilder:
In pgcedit..
VOBID: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
In rebuilder:
VOBID: 1,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13

//Knife

[setarip_old]

You cut off the beginning of your DVD Decrypter rip. What Region is your DVD?

[nwg]

It will be R2 DVD.

I can only suggest try to rip it with DVDFAB Decrypter has that has had some success with difficult DVD's or try getting a replacement anyway and hope it works.

Edit.

I only just realised you found that link before I posted.

[knife]

Sorry, sometimes my fingers are faster than my mind.
Source Media Region Code: 2
Released in Sweden

update:
I'm currently running rebuilder in "no compression" and so far no problems. VOBID 1 done, VOBID 6 in progress, no errors about the 2,3,4,5.

//Knife

[knife]

update:
Checked movie part with DGindex and ifoedit
ifoedit:
VOBID: 1,2 (1/1..1/14, 2/1...2/7)
I conclude that ifo says 1 and 2

DGindex:
VOBID: 1,6 (1/1...1/14, 6/1...6/7)
I conclude that VOB uses 1 and 6

//Knife

[knife]

update:
checked VTS3 with vobedit and it confirms rebuilder and dgindex. In the vob there is only VOBID: 1,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13
The ifo states 9 VOBID's and 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

Is there a way to change the numbering in the navpacks to match the ifo. Don't know if this solves the problem.

Rebuilder processed it with an error in the very end, missing vobid2. But the DVD is playable, still uncompressed but it sofar the only software that leves it almost intact.

//Knife

[knife]

Closer to solution:
1. use pgcedit to add a PGC, insert 4 new cells. This will give me 13 vobunits 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13
2. Use ifoedit to change VOBID number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,(10,11,12,13) to 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,(2,3,4,5).

Now vobblanker gives me a working movie if a use default settings and no blanking (haven't tried yet). Still it runs through vobblanker.
//Knife

[jeanl]

knife, can you post the IFOs somewhere? I would like to take a look at them. I'm curious to see which table in the IFO is screwed up... You could post them on yousendit.com for example.
Jeanl

[knife]

jeanl, no problem.
update:
Error free solution:
1. Use ifoedit to change VOBID number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 to 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13. All places in ifo.
2. Run fixvts
voila

This is not a 100% validated solution, but the DVD plays fine. Haven't had the time or knowledge to check for more errors.
It opens fine in Shrink, vobblanker, powerdvd ..

//Knife

[knife]

ifo here
http://download.yousendit.com/108DF7865B4D7B07

[knife]

reflection:
It seems like many programs check for unreferenced cells by comparing VOBID in .ifo and .vob. If present in .vob and not in .ifo it's considered unreferenced.
The trick they done on this release is to have different VOBUNIT numbers in .ifo and .vob. Which means that the cells in VOB are only referenced by their physical adress (lba) in .ifo.
This is only a reflection, my knowledge in the field is too poor to state that this really is the case.
//Knife

[jeanl]

knife, I would need all the IFOs, zip them all up and post that, if you don't mind.
I think you're absolutely correct in your analysis, we compare VCID, but apparently, they don't really have to match (!!!!) and only the lba seem to matters for players. But I'll check that when I have the ifos...
jeanl

[mpucoder]

Please use PM or email to send the ifo's, we can't allow posting them.

[knife]

all .ifo
jeanl and mpucoder check PM