Error 006: Framecount differences.....

[camelx]

The error I'm getting is:

Error 006: DVD-RB has found framecount differences between the PREPARE and REBUILD phases. Aborting.

Background:
Using 1.09.2 Pro
Movie - The Cave
Used newest Fabdecriptor to rip it 2.9.7.3
Pointed Dvdrebuilder to that rip dir
and it goes a good while prior to me getting the error.

NOte:
DVDShrink was aborting during it's process too, until I used the new version of Fabdecriptor, then it worked just fine!!

[jdobbs]

That is an indicator of a bad rip. It's possible that there is a true error on the disc (for example a scratch) that DVD Fab has misinterpreted as copy protection. You may want to try ripping it again.

Also -- have you done any preprocessing at all? Make sure you let DVD-RB work with the original rip.

[camelx]

I got another copy of the movie and had the same results, so it happened twice. Also the same rip dir, worked just fine with DVDShrink, and I played and watched about half of the movie and fast forwarded through the rest of it on the PC itself from the ripped dir.

The other copy I got was a friends, I thought the same about the original being bad. I have had that problem before with bad originals.

Not saying it still is not a possiblity, however wanted to include more details for you. I know "The Cave" has issues, that's why DVDFABdecriptor had to update too.

I guess the best thing now is to see if anyone else ripped (with what?), and did a DVDRebuilder with "The Cave".

Also I'll add, I tried both full DVD, all original, and movie only attempts with DVDRebuilder. Each bombed out.

THanks in advance, I still love DVDRebuilder!

[jdobbs]

I did the NTSC, R1 version.

[l8nights]

the use of fixvts should alleviate the error, mine worked fine w/ psl2 wizard, and if I'm remembering right the cave was one I experimented w/ fabdecrypter also and it worked fine so I wonder what the difference is like jdobbs I'm also in R1

[camelx]

I'm NTSC also and R1.

Pardon my ignorance, but where and how do I use the fixdts you mentioned?

And the same for the psl2 wizard?

Thanks again.

[l8nights]

fixvts 1.24 (http://www.videohelp.com/~FixVTS/)
psl2 plugin (http://www.digital-digest.com/~blutach/PgcEdit_install.exe)

[Thang_Bom]

I got the same error... I did use DVDFAB v2.9.7.5 Beta 2.. I did run thru VOBBlanker (to blank out) and DVDSHrink (no Encode) and Back to VOBBLanker again.

If I let DVDshrink to re-encode (transcode), DVDshrink work fine.

I would think right now, it maybe RB-PRO v1.09.

[jdobbs]

I don't.

Run it without the preprocessing and see if it happens. My guess is it won't.

No one ever gets that error except with a bad rip or preprocessing.

[Thang_Bom]

I assume you mean PREPARE, ENCODE, Rebuild. That is what I did it first run, After a long CCEing and it failed on rebuild process.

Then I let DVDShrink to process that DVDFAB and try 1-step Click. It failed again. I change to 2 pass CCEing and 1-pass.

I will try to run BIG-3 tonight.

[jdobbs]

What disc are you doing? Is it "The Cave" also?

The DVD Fab I used to do that movie was v2.9.6.8. I'll run that it through again using the latest (v2.9.7.3) DVD Fab and see what happens.

BTW -- reporting that you ran it through Shrink doesn't mean anything. Shrink doesn't check the stream for integrity because it doesn't have to reencode it.

[Thang_Bom]

This is the new Vietnamese music video... I am processing DVD 2 of that set.

There is a discussion of it in Digital forum here.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63955&page=8

I hope it is ok to post the link.

[l8nights]

I don't get the relevance of the link it's a different title &, different method of ripping than you are saying to use??!??

did you try the method in your link?
I don't know why the second, post shrink, vobblanker pass?

I think if you ran your files through vobblanker, rebuilder should eat them up, no?

[jakeduck]

[QUOTE=camelx]

I guess the best thing now is to see if anyone else ripped (with what?), and did a DVDRebuilder with "The Cave".

" The Cave" AnyDVD>DVDDecrypter>DVDRB. No problem.

[Thang_Bom]

It is the new protection scheme, I did run DVD1 thru DVDFab and I did get RB ok. But not on the second disk. For this second disk, as I mention earlier and on the post. I did use DVDFab v2.9.7.5 beta 2at the request of the author. So now I am trying to CCE it. I got the error code '6'.

Yes I know there are some fake cell that need to be cleaned but I thought by running thru DVDshrink and Vobblanker, it would clean it up. Maybe it did not clean them good enough that RB detect error.

One more question, if I ran thru RB without re-encoding, would it clean it? and then I can re-encode?

I don't get the relevance of the link it's a different title &, different method of ripping than you are saying to use??!??

did you try the method in your link?
I don't know why the second, post shrink, vobblanker pass?

I think if you ran your files through vobblanker, rebuilder should eat them up, no?

[l8nights]

the "new protection scheme" can be applied in different places in different way's on different movies/zones

so one may not represent the same scheme on another title

after rip use the vobblanker if you have it or fixvts (link above) and see if your error will disapate in rebuilder as well as shrink.

[Thang_Bom]

Here are all the steps I did after running DVDFAB v2.9.7.5 Beta 2

- Vobblanker
- DVDshrink on top of Vobblanker
- Vobblanker again.
- fixvts

DVDshrink to transcode works...


the "new protection scheme" can be applied in different places in different way's on different movies/zones

so one may not represent the same scheme on another title

after rip use the vobblanker if you have it or fixvts (link above) and see if your error will disapate in rebuilder as well as shrink.

[jdobbs]

Or you could:

1. Rip with AnyDVD.
2. Reencode with DVD Rebuilder.

That's how I did that disc.

I'll have the results of testing it with DVD Fab today.

[Thang_Bom]

I try with the latest version... The DVD 1 can read ok.. But DVD 2 does not work.. Still getting error reading with disk 2.

[jdobbs]

Well, I don't know what you guys are doing -- but it has to be more than I'm seeing in this post. I just finished running "The Cave, R1, NTSC" for the third time today (I did it with three different encoders). It worked perfectly every time.

Here's the complete process I used.

1. I read it with DVD Fab Decrypter v2.9.7.3 into a directory.
2. I ran DVD Rebuilder v1.09.2 in One Click mode.

It worked with CCE, HC Encoder, and ProCoder.

@camelx

Could you post your REBUILDER.LOG?

[Thang_Bom]

My movie is not the Cave - A new protection scheme that need to get v2.9.7.5 to rip it. There is fake VTS_02, if you dont use v2.9.7.5 Beta 2, it will take forever to rip the disk.

[Thang_Bom]

Here is the link for the log file

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X4G0HEX1GNYC2KJTO0FBM5XT1

[blutach]

The "new protection" on the Vietnamese music DVD is simply a more advanced version of ARccOS, where the bad sectors are not only in VTS_0X_1.VOB

Those disks can be ripped by the PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) plugin in advanced mode (after ignoring unreferenced titlesets).

I'd bet any errors you are getting in DVD Rebuilder (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/) would be related to a bad rip.

Regards

[JohnG]

I'm having a problem with "Narnia..". I'm receiving the 0006 error whenever I try to blank any portion of the movie. I ripped to .iso with DVD Decrypter, mounted it with Daemon as the DVD-RB source and blanked it using the built in Preview/Edit function. I tried to back-up without processing and it works. By the way, the portions that I am trying to blank are merely previews and should have nothing to do with tainting the structure.

[jakeduck]

Just did "Narnia" DVDD to HDD>DVDRB "movie and menus" Img to burn no problem.

[JohnG]

Just did "Narnia" DVDD to HDD>DVDRB "movie and menus" Img to burn no problem.

Right, my point is that the processing function in RB is creating a problem on the rebuild phase of the back-up. I already managed a regular back-up.

[jdobbs]

Send me your REBUILDER.INI file at dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com so I can make sure I repeat your actions exactly.

[JohnG]

Just a follow-up:
I since have re-ripped using DVDFab, run it through FixVTS and then process with VOB Blanker. It's running through RB now (using Rejig just to quickly test) and it's 60% through the rebuild with no problems....looking good. Jdobbs, would you still like me to replicate the procedure that failed before? It's no problem if you still want to see that log file.

[jdobbs]

I'd definitely like to track down the cause.

[JohnG]

Okay. I'm currently finishing it up (encoding with CCE), so I will redo the old procedure and send along the file when I'm done.

[jdobbs]

Thanks.

[JohnG]

jdobbs, the files have been sent to your e-mail.
From what I understand, this is a ripguard disk which might explain the problems. As I mentioned, I already managed a very nice back-up after re-ripping with DVDFab->FixVTS->blanked with VOBblanker->RB. The only time I experienced any issues was with the DVDD ripped .iso version. But even with this rip, I still managed a FULL back-up (untouched source), but any processing to the extraneous VTSs with RB's preview/edit function caused a Rebuild failure. I also tried oversizing the disk and marking those cells to remain as "raw frames" (no encoding) in the hopes to post process...the rebuild still failed.

[lamster]

I just ran across the second DVD where I got this error. (Ran it through FixVTS, and am retrying...)

Is there any way that you can detect the problem up-front, as opposed to my not finding out until phase 3?

Also, do you think that the error message should be written to the rebuilder.log? It seems to me that this would be helpful, so people can quote it accurately when posting.

[jdobbs]

I might be able to if I could find that it's usually the same thing causing it. But right now, since it's an indicator of a corrupt input stream -- that might be anything. Honestly most of the time I think its the result of bad editing... and I'm not sure I'd ever be able to get around that. For example, if someone breaks a stream on a GOP that is open -- there might be a reference to a frame that doesn't exist any more... and you'd get this error. To fix it I'd be asked to create a missing frame out of nothing.

This is the reason I keep saying I can't respond to problems reported that involve preprocessing... it's just too much to ask to have DVD-RB bring a "butchered" stream back to life. Most of the time people will say "but it seems ok in my player" -- and its a true statement -- but that's because a player will just keep going and ignore the garbage. An authoring package can't do that.

I'm not whining... but I just want people to understand what the real problem is.

If DVD-RB is the only processing (e.g. the segment editor, as was mentioned in at least one case) then I can find a cause and fix it.

[lamster]

Well, in this case I just decrypted with DVD Decrypter and tried to make a backup using Rebuilder. In the previous case, I first did that, and after that failed, I tried re-ripping with DVDFab Decrypter, and got the same results. I did no pre-processing in either case.

DVD Decrypter did say:
W 23:50:07 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 23:50:07 2 areas have been marked as 'suspect'.
W 23:50:07 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
- do you count that as preprocessing?

I understand what you're saying; I'm just wondering if you can detect up-front discrepancies caused by copy protection that will cause problems in the rebuild phase.

[jdobbs]

Unfortunately every time I've gotten one of these reports so far, and then have gone out and purchased the DVD hoping to repeat it -- it has worked correctly. I have never found it necessary to use Fixvts on any DVD yet -- and although I test encode anywhere from 2 to 4 DVDs every night, I have never gotten a #0006 error.

If someone could point me to an NTSC disc and a ripping process (even if it involves preprocessing) that will definitely cause this error I'd love to find it. Even if the fault isn't DVD-RB it would be nice to see an example so I can find out what gremlin is crawling around in the MPEG stream.

[mikaru]

I am having this exact problem with Narnia ntsc retail. dvddecrypter warns about the dummy sectors but i end up with complete iso file. dvdrb fails with error #006 at the rebuild stage. i have tried it with preprocessing and with the original iso file and it errors everytime. this might be one for you to try. i rip with dvddecrypter 3.5.4.0, mount the image with Daemon tools 3.47 and run dvd rebuilder pro 1.09.2. hope this helps.

Mike

[lamster]

Ditto with Narnia (NTSC, region 1, 2-disk deluxe edition).

DVDdecrypter 3.5.4.0, ripped as files, no preprocessing, QuEnc 0.6.1.0, "Half D1/Half space for extras", DTS and French audio tracks being removed. Ended with error 6.

Ran FixVTS and retried. The rebuilder.log from the first attempt had "-- Embedded null records found", whereas the log from the second attempt does not. However, the second attempt also ended with error 6. The last thing in the rebuilder.log is "- Processing VTS_01" ... "Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 2 CELLID 1"

[SpazzHH]

Since those are RipGuard discs, I would retry with DVDFab Decrypter and do no preprocessing. That formula worked for me. If I tried to run VobBlanker afterwards, the encodes errored out, but as long as I sent them straight to RB they worked fine.

[jdobbs]

Ditto with Narnia (NTSC, region 1, 2-disk deluxe edition).

DVDdecrypter 3.5.4.0, ripped as files, no preprocessing, QuEnc 0.6.1.0, "Half D1/Half space for extras", DTS and French audio tracks being removed. Ended with error 6.

Ran FixVTS and retried. The rebuilder.log from the first attempt had "-- Embedded null records found", whereas the log from the second attempt does not. However, the second attempt also ended with error 6. The last thing in the rebuilder.log is "- Processing VTS_01" ... "Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 2 CELLID 1"I've done that disc with AnyDVD/DVD Decrypter without any errors. But I'll run it through anyway without AnyDVD -- I'd like to find out what is actually causing the error.

You may want to try removing VTS_MIN_SIZE from your INI if you have one. I seem to remember that one of the small VTSs on that disc was filled with garbage. Without VTS_MIN_SIZE it would simply be copied. I'm working from memory, though.

[jdobbs]

Just an update on this one.... I don't know how you ripped "Narnia" with DVD Decrypter alone... I tried it and it fails within a minute or so of the start with a read error...

[JohnG]

Just an update on this one.... I don't know how you ripped "Narnia" with DVD Decrypter alone... I tried it and it fails within a minute or so of the start with a read error...
Could it be that the settings are somehow different? It appears that at least 3 of us have ripped this successfully to .iso with DVDD alone.

[jdobbs]

My guess is that you have "ignore errors" set. That might work on some discs -- but can result in problems on others. I have ripped and tested "Narnia" with the latest versions of both DVD Fab and AnyDVD and it works correctly.

[JFerguson]

I just got this error with Memoirs Of A Geisha R1 Disc 1. Ripped with AnyDVD v5.9.4.1 (which I now see is dated).

I'll rerip with an updated version...

[jdobbs]

I did that one... I used AnyDVD. I've been working for the past week on various ways to circumvent the causes of #0006. It's mainly caused by garbage in the source... version 1.09.3 should make it much less likely.

[Voodoochild]

But Have lot's of Experience with DVD rips.
I used to work and steel do with DVD shrink, How ever I discovered DVD RB, and for heavy compressions.. yes it's the best.
I have some tips that may help some people with error 0006.
1. no matter how you ripped the DVD, Use FixVts at the end, it remove all the garbage, and DVD- RB can rebuild.
I tried to rebuild backup of my Seinfeld DVD and I got error0006, after FixEdit problem solved.
2. You don't have to rip SonyArcos DVD's with PcgEdit Plugin,
you can rip it with software like anydvd or DVd region + css
but be sure to run it with FIxVts after.
3. FixVts should be the last step .. after using VobBlanker , menushrink etc...
Then dvdrb can rebuild No Problem.

No for 1 question, I'm using the 0.97 free edition, is there any way to upgrade the DGdecode.DLL.
when I used Latest version Encode time was 4 time Faster with VTS setting deen()...
BUT I couldn't see the video since DGindex version was different then the DGDecode.dll version.
Is there way to upgrade the DGindex as well...??
Many Thanks in advance.

[Rockas]

At this point you can't use other dgdecode.dll than the one included on the package...

[Voodoochild]

At this point you can't use other dgdecode.dll than the one included on the package...

Ok 10x, the one in the package works good, bit slow but it's ok i'll wait for the upgrade

[jdobbs]

I can't imagine how it could be 4x faster just because of a version upgrade???? Are you sure? For normal decoding I've tested the latest and the one included in the package and their speed is virtually identical (without deen() at least).

The Pro Version uses DGDECODE v1.4.5

[Voodoochild]

I can't imagine how it could be 4x faster just because of a version upgrade???? Are you sure? For normal decoding I've tested the latest and the one included in the package and their speed is virtually identical (without deen() at least).

The Pro Version uses DGDECODE v1.4.5

Hi jdobbs
First 10x for the fast reply and the great software. for heavy compressions it's the best
second I backed up seinfeld dvd season 6 disc 1
removed all extras, left with only main moovie
and menu
with DGDECODE v1.4.7 and there difference in speed
between v1.4.5 and 1.4.7
used deen()
with v.1.4.7 took 69 min
with v.1.1.0 took 224 min
speed in ecc SP.v2.70.02.06 v1.4.7b6 shown 3.80-3.90
speed in ecc SP.v2.70.02.06 v.1.1.0 shown 0.90-1.00
i'll be glad to give more details and help if you need