ImgTool error about missing VOBs

[bagge1]

Hello.

I've been trying to find a solution for this problem in some other thread but failed. I've made some hundred successful backups with Big3, and when I bump into some problem, I usually solve it by searching this forum.

In my last 3 backups, I've been stuck at same problem however.

After running batchupdateifo, my original VIDEO_TS folder looks like this:

2006-03-14 17:06 18 432 VIDEO_TS.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 18 432 VIDEO_TS.IFO
2005-11-17 11:59 157 696 VIDEO_TS.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 83 968 VTS_01_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 83 968 VTS_01_0.IFO
2006-03-14 14:44 88 260 608 VTS_01_0.VOB
2006-03-14 13:22 1 073 332 224 VTS_01_1.VOB
2006-03-14 13:26 1 073 553 408 VTS_01_2.VOB
2006-03-14 13:30 1 073 623 040 VTS_01_3.VOB
2006-03-14 13:34 1 073 383 424 VTS_01_4.VOB
2006-03-14 13:35 231 780 352 VTS_01_5.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 32 768 VTS_02_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 32 768 VTS_02_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_02_0.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 22 528 VTS_03_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 22 528 VTS_03_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_03_0.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_04_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_04_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_04_0.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_05_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_05_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_05_0.VOB
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_06_0.BUP
2006-03-14 17:06 20 480 VTS_06_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_06_0.VOB

When I'm trying to make an ISO of this directory, ImgTool complaints about not finding VTS_02_1.VOB, VTS_03_1.VOB, VTS_04_1.VOB, VTS_05_1.VOB and VTS_06_1.VOB.

I suppose these files should be dummies. I'm not at all sure where the problem really lies.

[mpucoder]

I don't know where the problem is either, but dummy files would not make sense, you cannot have a VTS without a title in it.

[Zeul]

Were these files in the original VIDEO_TS folder?

[bagge1]

Were these files in the original VIDEO_TS folder?

Yes, the listing is for the final folder, e g the original and reauthored folders merged together by batchupdateifo.

I ignored these warnings this time, and it seems like the ISO is working anyway, atleast in PowerDVD! I'll try and see if my hardware DVD-player will accept it as well. In that case, no reason to investigate this further.

[bagge1]

The menu is a little bit messed up but the movie is working...

[influenza]

the original doesnt have a vts_02_1.vob either?

[bagge1]

the original doesnt have a vts_02_1.vob either?

Yes it has! The VIDEO_TS on the original (the DVD9) looks like this:

2005-11-17 12:40 18 432 VIDEO_TS.IFO
2005-11-17 11:59 157 696 VIDEO_TS.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 18 432 VIDEO_TS.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 94 208 VTS_01_0.IFO
2005-11-17 11:59 204 068 864 VTS_01_0.VOB
2005-11-17 12:06 1 073 565 696 VTS_01_1.VOB
2005-11-17 12:15 1 073 565 696 VTS_01_2.VOB
2005-11-17 12:22 1 073 565 696 VTS_01_3.VOB
2005-11-17 12:29 1 073 565 696 VTS_01_4.VOB
2005-11-17 12:37 1 073 565 696 VTS_01_5.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 1 056 112 640 VTS_01_6.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 94 208 VTS_01_0.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 32 768 VTS_02_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_02_0.VOB
2005-11-15 11:30 1 073 565 696 VTS_02_1.VOB
2005-11-15 11:30 8 671 232 VTS_02_2.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 32 768 VTS_02_0.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 22 528 VTS_03_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_03_0.VOB
2005-11-15 11:30 386 560 000 VTS_03_1.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 22 528 VTS_03_0.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_04_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_04_0.VOB
2005-11-15 11:30 121 294 848 VTS_04_1.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_04_0.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_05_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_05_0.VOB
2005-11-15 11:31 70 635 520 VTS_05_1.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_05_0.BUP
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_06_0.IFO
2005-11-17 12:40 157 696 VTS_06_0.VOB
2005-11-15 11:31 9 400 320 VTS_06_1.VOB
2005-11-17 12:40 20 480 VTS_06_0.BUP

[influenza]

so you seriously messed up the structure.

[bagge1]

Yeah!

I think Numenu4u is responsible for this. I'm running version 2.0.25.

The movie I'm processing right now is "Return to sender". However, the movie before this one also had the same issue. Maybe there are some preferences in Numenu4u that I need to change?

[D3s7]

are you using the "reverse mode" in batchifoupdate or the normal mode?

One mode puts the file in your original demux VIDEO_TS dir, the other option puts the files in your authored VIDEO_TS dir..... my guess is you're looking at the wrong directory

[D3s7]

also which VTS sets did you reauthor?

[bagge1]

I didn´t use the reverse mode.

I created a folder named "Final" with VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS under it. Into it, I copied what was in the VIDEO_TS in the work folder.

In batchupdateifo, I used F:\SENDER\FINAL\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO as original and
F:\SENDER\WORK\0\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO as reathored.

That's the way I always do it.

I think only VTS01 was reathored.

F:\SENDER\WORK\VTS01 is full of stuff.

F:\SENDER\WORK\VTS02 and
F:\SENDER\WORK\VTS03 also exists, but strangely enough they are empty.

[Zeul]

Yeah!

I think Numenu4u is responsible for this. I'm running version 2.0.25.

The movie I'm processing right now is "Return to sender". However, the movie before this one also had the same issue. Maybe there are some preferences in Numenu4u that I need to change?

How would numenu4u be responsible for the TITLE vobs not being created? Numenu only processes the *_0.vobs or video_ts.vob.

If the vts's were deselected in dif4u, i presume you had 'create video_ts from unused vts's' selected - to ensure that all TITLE vobs are copied into the video_ts folder.

AFAIK this would be the only way that a vts was not authored (a dummy VTS would be created in scenarist). Assuming that the original did not exist in the original VIDEO_TS folder, batchifoupdate would have no file to copy over.

Review your dif4u options again.

[bagge1]

How would numenu4u be responsible for the TITLE vobs not being created? Numenu only processes the *_0.vobs or video_ts.vob.

If the vts's were deselected in dif4u, i presume you had 'create video_ts from unused vts's' selected - to ensure that all TITLE vobs are copied into the video_ts folder.

AFAIK this would be the only way that a vts was not authored (a dummy VTS would be created in scenarist). Assuming that the original did not exist in the original VIDEO_TS folder, batchifoupdate would have no file to copy over.

Review your dif4u options again.

Ok, Numenu4u has nothing to do with this then.

I have 'create video_ts from unused vts' is selected in DIF4U. VTS 1, 2, and 3 are automaticly selected in DIF4U. VTS 4, 5 and 6 are not selected. Should I select every VTS in DIF4U to get rid of the problem? I checked my other preferences in DIF4U, but nothing is different from the Big3 guide.

[jel]

could you please post (attach) your dif4u log file please.

cheers
j

[bagge1]

Ok, here it is.

[jel]

something very strange is going on there.
although vts_02 and vts_03 are selected for demux, no video files are demuxed and therefore no .d2v files are created so dif4u has skipped processing these vts'es.

did you do any preprocesing on this disc?

could you post the .ifo contents for vts_02 and vts_03.

[bagge1]

something very strange is going on there.
although vts_02 and vts_03 are selected for demux, no video files are demuxed and therefore no .d2v files are created so dif4u has skipped processing these vts'es.

did you do any preprocesing on this disc?

could you post the .ifo contents for vts_02 and vts_03.

I didn't do anything with the disc except decrypting it with DVDDecrypter to my harddrive. Preprocessing options enabled in DIF4U were:

Autocreate All Folders For This DVD
Autodetect and Uncheck Duplicate PGC's
Autoswitch VTS's containing angels to VobID Demux
Autodetect Subtitles/Closed Captioning

I'll attach the .IFO's from the original DVD9 disc.

[influenza]

Please do not post original ifos here. Can you upload them somewhere else and add a link? We do not want to run into copyright issues ;)

[bagge1]

Ok, sorry about that. Here it is:

http://www.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=df0f8c50a428b638e11e00e43aabbc18a8abd9ec

[mpucoder]

Please do not post original ifos here. Can you upload them somewhere else and add a link? We do not want to run into copyright issues ;)
How is that any different than uploading them here?
Since the files were intended for a mod, uploading them to the forum is a convenient way to transfer them - just delete the attachment after downloading.

[Matthew]

How is that any different than uploading them here?

I've seen the same policy elsewhere...the theory is that there is a big difference between having a link to a server containing the files and having the 'questionable' content on the website server itself.

[influenza]

I don't know if we have an actual policy for it, so I said it just in case.

[bagge1]

I don't know if we have an actual policy for it, so I said it just in case.

Have you looked at the file, influenza?

[D3s7]

nothing pops out right away but try unchecking the "process all angles" option in doitfast4u and re-demux

also, there is no reason to process vts 2 or 3 in vobid mode

[bagge1]

nothing pops out right away but try unchecking the "process all angles" option in doitfast4u and re-demux

also, there is no reason to process vts 2 or 3 in vobid mode

I had that option unchecked already.

Yesterday, I tried to back up another movie (Mean Creek), and I got the exact same problem again. Only the *.0.VOB files gets copied to work\VIDEO_TS, so I end up missing some files.

[influenza]

There's a setting in dif4u and/org numenu4u to make these programs copy unprocessed files, I think you have this option unchecked.

[bagge1]

I went through all settings today. I have every setting exactly as the guide wants it. I also tried to downgrade software but no luck.

Yes, DIF4U has a setting 'Create VIDEO_TS using unused VTSs (and CCEData.txt)' That one is enabled as in the guide.

Numenu4U has a setting 'Copy Unprocessed Menu and IFO files into Working Directory'. That one is also enabled.

[jel]

i still think the problem is a result of dif4u NOT being able to correctly demux ALL of your 'selected for processing' titles. as your dif4u log shows (and i pointed out earlier):
something very strange is going on there.
although vts_02 and vts_03 are selected for demux, no video files are demuxed and therefore no .d2v files are created so dif4u has skipped processing these vts'es.
are you working from a mounted iso source?
did dvd decrypter have any issues creating the .iso onto your hard drive?
have you had any system instability lately?
was there any setting you changed or program you installed around the time that "the big 3" started going pear-shaped?

[bagge1]

are you working from a mounted iso source?

Yes, using DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0 and Daemon Tools 3.47.

did dvd decrypter have any issues creating the .iso onto your hard drive?

No, not at all. And this is now the third time the problem appears.

have you had any system instability lately?

No, not at all.

was there any setting you changed or program you installed around the time that "the big 3" started going pear-shaped?

Actually, I can't remember that I changed anything. But my gf used the computer a while ago, and you know...anything could've happened....

[bagge1]

If I manually select every VTS and PGC in DIF4U for processing - I still get the same result!

Whatelse can I do? Reinstall Windows?

[Zeul]

@bagge1

can you confirm the following:

Check the setting in dvd decrypter under settings -> Device.

Eject tray after .. Read is UNCHECKED. If the VTSs are in the original but are not being demuxed then dvddec is not decrypting them.

If this setting is correct then.. Is dvd decrypter called for each VTS/PGC as required? Make sure miniimize apps is switched OFF so you can see.

[bagge1]

@bagge1

can you confirm the following:

Check the setting in dvd decrypter under settings -> Device.

Eject tray after .. Read is UNCHECKED. If the VTSs are in the original but are not being demuxed then dvddec is not decrypting them.

If this setting is correct then.. Is dvd decrypter called for each VTS/PGC as required? Make sure miniimize apps is switched OFF so you can see.

As a matter of fact, I recently enabled the setting 'Eject tray after...' in DVD Decrypter. Thought it would be convenient.

[jel]

...oops :p

nice work zeul! i would have thought that after you had made a sticky on the subject - To All DoItFast4u / NuMenu4u / Scenaid Users (Very Important) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=97364) - that this wouldnt have been an issue anymore ......

[bagge1]

I think Zeul just fixed it!

Thank you all for your time and effort!

[Zeul]

The sticky has been there for some time.