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foobaz
6th March 2006, 06:35
While editing the menu buttons of Sky High in PgcEdit, I discovered that there is a button that leads to an otherwise unreferenced titleset. There is normally no way to access this button since no menu buttons are linked to it. However, if you edit an adjacent button to link to it, you can play it in your set-top player. So your backup is actually more than your original. Now that's what I call an easter egg. :)
That's all I'm going to say about it. I'll let others have the fun of checking this out for themselves. ;)
setarip_old
6th March 2006, 08:32
Are you referring to:
A) Storyboards
B) Gwenn the guinea pig
C) Character sketches, or
D) Yet something else?
(I ask because each of these [A, B), and C)] IS accessible from either the main menu or the "Bonus Features" menu)
r0lZ
6th March 2006, 10:59
Note that it is theoretically possible to activate a button with the remote, even if there are no adjacent buttons linked to it, by pressing the number key corresponding to the button number.
However, that doesn't work in all circumstances: you can only activate buttons 1 to 9 this way, and the "Number of numerically selectable buttons" parameter of the menu must be >= button number. Also, it is impossible to activate a button by number with some standalone players (it's the case of my Sony, which uses the number keys to jump to a specific chapter.)
Anyway, modifying the adjacent links to be able to reach the button with the arrows is a good method, and it works always!
foobaz
6th March 2006, 22:18
Are you referring to:
A) Storyboards
B) Gwenn the guinea pig
C) Character sketches, or
D) Yet something else?
Were you the kid in the theater who, having already seen the movie five times, blurted out the outcome of every scene before it concluded, while others were trying to enjoy the movie for the first time? :mad:
(I ask because each of these [A, B), and C)] IS accessible from either the main menu or the "Bonus Features" menu)Well I don't know what bootlegged version you have :sly: but mine is an R1 original and there is no visible access to this one. If you press the "right" button from the "sneak peeks" button (5), it goes to button 6 which also goes to the "sneak peeks" menu.
As I stated before, there is no button linking to this particular button. There is code that does direct program flow to the titleset if a particular GPRM is set to a particular value but there is no button that directly causes the proper GPRM to be set other than this inaccessible button. It is possible that it gets set some other way but I haven't found it by searching for the GPRM. BTW there are no BOVs either.
I did try accessing it by pressing the number corresponding to the button, as r0lZ suggested, and that did work.
setarip_old
7th March 2006, 02:25
Were you the kid in the theater who, having already seen the movie five times, blurted out the outcome of every scene before it concluded, while others were trying to enjoy the movie for the first time?Nope - but I wanted to make certain that the three items I mentioned, which ARE all accessible from the menus, WEREN'T what you were referring to, because I would have LOVED to hear of an "Easter Egg" that I wasn't aware of ;>}Well I don't know what bootlegged version you have but mine is an R1 original and there is no visible access to this one.Your assumption/accusation is incorrect. My backup is of my original, purchased Region 1 version and not a "bootleg". Both behave in the following manner:
If you'd like to access the features I've named from the menu screens while playing the DVD, in both the main menu and the "Bonus Features" menu, slowly move the mouse over ALL parts of the screen and look for a less-than-obvious circles to "light up" in the Main menu (the last dial to the right of "Scene selections"), "Bonus features", the third or middle rivet, and "Backstage at Disney" (sub-menu of "Bonus Features"), the purple guinea pig in the lower right quadrant.
So, I'd ask you again, are you referring to one of these, or yet something else - which I'd still LOVE to discover ;>}
foobaz
7th March 2006, 15:18
Your assumption/accusation is incorrect. My backup is of my original, purchased Region 1 version and not a "bootleg".
I was only kidding. :o
If you'd like to access the features I've named from the menu screens while playing the DVD, in both the main menu and the "Bonus Features" menu, slowly move the mouse over ALL parts of the screen
That's cheating. They are not available in a normal set-top unless you know the button number as pointed out by r0lZ
look for a less-than-obvious circles to "light up" in the Main menu (the last dial to the right of "Scene selections")
That's the one that I was referring to. I didn't see the others but I do notice unreferenced buttons on those menus as well. Why do they do these things?
setarip_old
7th March 2006, 20:40
That's cheating. They are not available in a normal set-top unless you know the button number as pointed out by r0lZIt's not "cheating", (and they ARE readily accessible in a normal set-top as I've just described) it's simply a standard way to discover all buttons on all menu screens...
True "Easter eggs" don't have buttons (Hidden or otherwise), just unassociated .VOBs...
foobaz
8th March 2006, 20:57
(and they ARE readily accessible in a normal set-top as I've just described)
You did? I don't see where. Just out of curiosity, how WOULD you access them in a set-top, in other than the way that r0lZ describes?
setarip_old
8th March 2006, 21:17
@foobaz
My apologies (He said sheepishly) - despite copying your words "normal set-top", I was obviously referring to mouse actions on my PC monitor.
Mea culpa (Big time)!
blutach
11th March 2006, 13:28
If you look at the sequence of the buttons (and there are 3 buttons over the special features, each with different adjacent buttons) and how they interact adjacently, it's easy to figure out how to get there (to button 7) on a ST player. Course it takes the fun out of it (same as figuring out the codes in National Treasure by looking at the commands ;))
Regards
foobaz
11th March 2006, 18:38
If you look at the sequence of the buttons (and there are 3 buttons over the special features, each with different adjacent buttons) and how they interact adjacently, it's easy to figure out how to get there (to button 7) on a ST player.Not sure what you mean but you can just look at the button number of the unlinked button. Maybe that is what you mean. In any case this points out a way that the average computer-illiterate set-top user with lots of time on their hands (mostly children, who, after all, easter eggs are intended for) could find them. They could just press every button on the numeric keypad and see what happens. It would take a while but for some this would be fun.
r0lZ
11th March 2006, 20:37
Don't forget that it is possible to inhibit the activation of the buttons by the number keys (by lowering the number of numerically selectable buttons) and that a button greater than #9 cannot be accessed this way.
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