I need some advice on the strangest two disks I've ever seen ...

[Funnybook]

I hope nobody minds me posting this here. It relates to burned DVDs, not commercial DVDs that need to be decrypted. I have two disks acquired from separate friends and have found both impossible to copy.

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Disk one: I put it in my PC DVD drive and Windows can't see it. It says there is no disk in the drive. Shrink and Decrypter can't see it. TmpgEnc Mpeg editor can't see it, even in the Source Wizard/Import Source from DVD Video. Nothing can see it except the Cyberlink PowerDVD software DVD player, which can play it just fine.

My external standalone players can play it but it constantly changes resolution horizontally. The guy that burned the disk for me reports:

"I used a sensory science standalone recorder, which I got at a soundtrack (now ultimate electronics ), store.....it was finalized, and tested on an apex also, and played......I have had some weird experiences,,,,,mostly on discs not finalizing to dvd video, but to dvd+, and staying that way......and not being able to re-finalize......I still don't know how it does it, since finalizing is supposed to make it dvd video.....strange.........."

(He forgot to add, 'Period.')

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Disk two: Windows sees the VIDEO_TS directory, and I can drag and drop copy the files to my hard drive, but whether from the disk or the hard drive, Shrink and Decrypter both report an invalid DVD navigation structure. The files won't demux with DVD Lab Pro, which reports:

Not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video Stream.

VobEdit spends several minutes going through the motions of a complete demux, but at the end all I have is a 7k subtitle stream, and this disk has no subtitles.

But again, the software DVD player and my external standalone players will play it. The friend that sent this disk to me reports:

'Hmmm.....that's odd. Well, normally I use deck to deck.... however, I think I used the 'dub' on my machine. Which goes from my VHS right to the dvd on the deck. So I only need one deck.'

The disk ID is: SONATA_VOLUME

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Each friend swears the disk they sent is finalized. Both disks are +R media. Now, I want both of these shows, but even more, I want a solution to the challenges they pose. I could deck-to-deck copy them but I won't. I want to crack them, to get them digitally copied and copyable.

Any suggestions?

[Guest]

Sounds like a forum rule 6 violation. What "show" is your firiend giving you on a disk?

[Funnybook]

Good grief... number one, none of your business, number two, what makes self-appointed forum cops like you assume the worst, and number three, please shut up and leave room for an actual constructive reply. Thanks.

[Guest]

Good grief... number one, none of your business, number two, what makes self-appointed forum cops like you assume the worst, and number three, please shut up and leave room for an actual constructive reply. Thanks. Please read and follow forum rules, specifically, rule 4: ...respect the moderator.

http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm

Do not post complaints publically. Take them through the proper channels.

Thank you.

[Funnybook]

Respect the moderator? When every thread in this entire domain concerns "ripping" the latest Hollywood release, and he attacks my character for using the word "show" and demands to know exactly WHAT show I am talking about?

And now you want to chime in, in support of his bullying, unnecessarily rude and accusing behavior?

Is this what this forum has become? "Moderators" with nothing better to do than prowl around accosting honest posters looking for honest answers with the equavalent of "Show us your papers, comrade"?

I asked a civilized question about an honest issue, the kind of things these forums are designed for, and rather than try to help, he throws his weight around demanding to know what show I'm talking about. And you support that. Well, get out the boots if you must, boys, because I came here to exchange information and to learn from those who know more than me, not to be bullied and accused and presumed guilty of some imagined infraction just because I used the word "show". That kind of behavior gets no respect because it deserves no respect.

I wonder... Does anyone care to get past this garbage and respond to the honest questions in my initial post?

[Funnybook]

Oh, my mistake, same "moderator".

Very well... I stand by everything I said, but allow me to say it a little more politely:

Number one: The "show" (actually, two shows) that I received have nothing to do with my questions and are none of your concern.

Number two: I have no idea what makes people like you barge in and assume the worst, guilty until proven innocent, "Sounds like a violation!" ... what a sad misuse and abuse of your moderator's priveleges. And I repeat, particularly amidst an ocean of talk of ripping all of the latest copyrighted Hollywood films, by name!

Number three: Would you be so kind as to either address the questions I raised, or stand to the side in silence, rather than simply abuse your moderator's priveleges and ruin this thread with your presumptuous accusations?

You say "Do not post complaints publically. Take them through the proper channels." - How about you refrain from posting your unfounded and vague accusations publicly, and instead, take them to the proper channels?

Thanks.

[jel]

@ Funnybook

please re-read the anouncement at the top of the newbie forum for clarification of what we can and can not help you with.

in addition, you agreed to follow the forum rules when signing up here at doom9, so if you do not like the way they are enforced, you have 2 options:

1. take up your complaints through the appropriate channels
or
2. do not post in this forum

what is totally unacceptable is responding to a simple query as to the legitamacy of your source material with what amounts to a purile attack on a very respected and valuable member of this community.

usually we allow a little (well more than a little) slack in the noob forum however this time i think a 30 day time out is more than justified ...

thread closed

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