The _10.VOB Problem

[frank]

I merged two parts of a dvd and got 10 vobs: vts_01_1...vts_01_10.vob.
After editing with PgcEdit I wanted to shrink to a dvd-9 (8.5 GB).
But guess what, no tool was able to read/write the 10th vob!!!
(Nero Recode, ShrinkDVD, CloneDVD2, ifoedit,...)

I wonder why. Do the specs only define max. 9 vobs??

My solution was to merge the last vob to the 9th with the copy /b command.
Now those programs could read the whole dvd.

Any other ideas?

[setarip_old]

Do the specs only define max. 9 vobs??Per Title, yes - The limitation is due to the required DOS-format naming (8.3)...

[jsoto]

Well, you can try Hex numbering .... VTS_01_A.VOB, VTS_01_B.VOB and so on... :D :D :D

[mad-eddy]

Any other ideas?

Theoretically...
If one presses in Ifoedit "Vob Extras", there is yet to the right the function "Vob Size". If you select then with each your two projects "No Split", one receives only in each case a Vob. Now you must merge and compress the two only.
Now it is only asks openly whether the programs accept the extra large Vob's. :confused:
Try it nevertheless simply once.

Greeting

[frank]

setarip_old:
The limitation is due to the required DOS-format naming (8.3)...Oh yes, I forgot it.
BTW DVDRemake produces the 10th vob...

jsoto:
You can try Hex numbering .... VTS_01_A.VOB, VTS_01_B.VOB and so on...Good idea! :D :D :D Works for reading!

[roux]

You could also join VTS_01_09 with VT_01_10 to one big vob file and then re-encode, worked for me when i had this problem.

[blutach]

Yes, a simple join will do the trick. Use the DOS copy command.

EG: Copy /b VTS_01_9.VOB + VTS_01_10.VOB JOINED.VOB

Then move 9 and 10 out and rename "Joined" to "9".

Regards

[jsoto]

@roux, blutach
joining both files with copy /b is what frank is already doing. See first post of the thread
jsoto

[blutach]

My apologies - old eyes and silly brain.

Regards

[davepyne]

I'm having the same issue trying to merge LOTR "fellowship of the ring" into one disc that I can play off the hard drive. At 12.9 GB its much too big to fit on a disc, but I've got a fat Raid array that it can sit on. There are 14 VOB files at 1 GB filesize to merge. I tried naming them "VTS_01_A.VOB", "VTS_01_B.VOB", etc., but it didn't work. IFO edit is what I tried to merge them with and create new IFOs. It said "could not find any VOB unit in VOB files". I guess ifoedit doesn't like using letters. What I'm going to try to do now is use IFOedit to re write the VOBs of each disc at 2 GB filesize so that instead of having 14 VOBs I'll just have 7 or 8. I'll let you all know how that goes soon

[setarip_old]

@davepyne

Hi!

No, hex numbering won't work.

A simple solution for joining the two discs' .VOBs, might be to use the "Join" function of either DVD2One or DVD95Copy...

[Dimad]

What I'm going to try to do now is use IFOedit to re write the VOBs of each disc at 2 GB filesize so that instead of having 14 VOBs I'll just have 7 or 8. I'll let you all know how that goes soon
No need to touch ifos. What blutach suggested will work:

Yes, a simple join will do the trick. Use the DOS copy command.

EG: Copy /b VTS_01_9.VOB + VTS_01_10.VOB JOINED.VOB

Then move 9 and 10 out and rename "Joined" to "9".
Important thing is to have files named up to _09.VOB. Files size is not important.

[HanSolo00]

I merged two parts of a dvd and got 10 vobs: vts_01_1...vts_01_10.vob.
After editing with PgcEdit I wanted to shrink to a dvd-9 (8.5 GB).
But guess what, no tool was able to read/write the 10th vob!!!
(Nero Recode, ShrinkDVD, CloneDVD2, ifoedit,...)

I wonder why. Do the specs only define max. 9 vobs??

My solution was to merge the last vob to the 9th with the copy /b command.
Now those programs could read the whole dvd.

Any other ideas?

Here's another method that worked very well for me, since I did something similar a few weeks ago.

-use DVD Shrink in AUTHOR mode to grab the title(s) from the 2 or more DVDs you are combining
-output uncompressed to another folder (the total size will be large, but each VTS is a seperate set of VOBs so you are ok on naming convention etc.)
-use your preferred compression on the resultant oversized DVD (I used DVD-RB, hence the need for pre-assembly of the oversized project for simple no-problems reduction calculations)
-author new menus, or use old menu/structure and mangle all back together in DVD-Remake.

I used DVD-RB to compress 4 x 45min 6000Kbs Video/PCM Audio DVDs down to 1 DVD at about 2600Kbs video and 192Kbs AC3 audio. Then I demuxed all the M2V and AC3, and re-authored in DVD Lab with my own menu. Final result (6 DVD's with pretty menus) was far better than the original package, which was 24 DVDs with broken title menus.

Anyway, you can try using multiple VTS to get around the single-VTS limit. I suspect you could also put a jump/link from the end of one VTS to the next, to do your giant seamless LotR edition.

[jamos]

Theoretically...
If one presses in Ifoedit "Vob Extras", there is yet to the right the function "Vob Size".

I just use vob extras custom 1 setting (set the size you want in your ifoedit.ini file in your windows directory) I set mine to around 2 gig. that way when I strip with ifoedit i get 2 gig. files havent had any issues. Of course then I reduce the size and it resizes them to 1 gig for compatability reasons with either dvdrebuilder pro or recode.