PS in nero 7

[shon3i]

I use belight b9 and i try encode 6ch ac3 -> 6ch mp4 with nero7 encoder. I get wery artifacting noise in silence. With Coding tehnologies was good quality but only with PS. How to produce PS in nero. And how bitrate is splited in 6ch mp4.

[Kurtnoise]

PS with Nero is only available for the lower bitrates and not for 6ch.

[shon3i]

did PS used in 6ch encode via ct or not

[dimzon]

did PS used in 6ch encode via ct or not
PS means ParametricStereo, it defined only for Stereo

[shon3i]

PS means ParametricStereo, it defined only for Stereo
I know that. But why is so strange 6ch encoding with nero 6/7

[Kurtnoise]

I've never got such artifacts with Nero 6. But to be honest Multichannel Encoding into Nero 7 is not finalized (even for stereo...some bugs appear already). They (aka developpers) are rebuilding the compressor.

[shon3i]

I've never got such artifacts with Nero 6Did you get artifacts with 6ch encode. I using Aac.dll 2.5.9.991 and aacenc32.dll 3.2.0.20 from nero 6.6.0.16 package, and from nero 7.0.1.4b Aac.dll 3.0.0.7 and aacenc32.dll 4.2.2.3. I aslo find this binaries on the net http://www.mp3-tech.org/tests/aac_48/nd_audio_02_feb_2006.7z where he add support for ps therie is two aacenc32.dll one whit ps version 4.9.9.96 and without ps 4.9.9.95 and Aac version is 4.9.9.9. With PS in <48kbs now great but with 6ch is same.

[Kurtnoise]

Did you get artifacts with 6ch encode.
huh ?? I said no. But you can propose a sample file where you find some artifacts. Some people will be glad to test it...:)


I using Aac.dll 2.5.9.991 and aacenc32.dll 3.2.0.20 from nero 6.6.0.16 package, and from nero 7.0.1.4b Aac.dll 3.0.0.7 and aacenc32.dll 4.2.2.3. I aslo find this binaries on the net http://www.mp3-tech.org/tests/aac_48/nd_audio_02_feb_2006.7z where he add support for ps therie is two aacenc32.dll one whit ps version 4.9.9.96 and without ps 4.9.9.95 and Aac version is 4.9.9.9. With PS in <48kbs now great but with 6ch is same.
Be careful with these libraries. Some people have reported some bugs (which one has been corrected (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=39731&pid=364934&st=150&#) by Ivan Dimovic last night). So, use them for testing only.

[shon3i]

huh ?? I said no. But you can propose a sample file where you find some artifacts. Some people will be glad to test it...
Very Soon.

[shon3i]

OK Kurtnoise13 there is three audio files. Both nero 6/7 and CodingTehnologies encoded via belight using 112cbr. Duration of files is 00:08 seconds 6ch. This is to short but difference exist. Listen to yourself and you see that CT is best in 6ch and i dont know why there is comandlines used by transcoding

For Coding Tehnologies:
C:\Program Files\BeLight\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.aac -logfile C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 6 ) -dimzon( -dllname WA_aacPlus.dll -cbr 112 -mpeg4 -6chnew ) -ota( -d 0 )

For Nero6:
C:\Program Files\BeLight\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp4 -logfile C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_1.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 6 ) -bsn( -6chnew -cbr 112 -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 )

For Nero 7:
C:\Program Files\BeLight\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 -output C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_1.mp4 -logfile C:\Documents and Settings\Nenad\Desktop\Saw2DVD\Saw2 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_1_1.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 6 ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -cbr 112 -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 )
I aslo try to use -codecquality_fast but is same.

[Kurtnoise]

mmh..needs approval. Use another way to share your files.

and btw, we need also the source :)

[shon3i]

@Kurtnoise13 here is a link http://rapidshare.de/files/14365315/aac.rar.html archive contains one original 6ch ac3 and three 6ch aac files (nero6/7/CT). I suggest you to hear this on hedaphone.