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[MA]Debito
13th February 2006, 00:18
Currently I've been trying to encode Wolf's Rain. I've come to notice now that it and other animes have some strange issue with b-frames. What happens is that since the B-Frames are looking ahead and behind for frames to predict where it should be it creates a flicker. B-Frames are great for compression yet they can cause problems like this...Is there a decent work around to fix the B-Frame issue?
Here is a sample of what I mean:
Flicker (http://members.cox.net/debito/Flicker01.avi) 184kb
ChronoCross
13th February 2006, 00:47
This issue has been discussed quite a bit in the past. it happens randomly. Additionally sometimes you notice it sometimes you don't. For me I didn't notice it on the clip either in MPC, or WMP when using ffdshow to decode.
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[MA]Debito
13th February 2006, 03:27
It's not a random thing, It's an overcompression issue. I've tried stepping up the bitrate and quant matricies. Nothing seems to fix it except disabling b-frames...But that makes ze file huge! Anywho...I've been encoding long enough to figure out a solution. Just wanted to know if anyone knew anything off the top of their head.
Episodio1
13th February 2006, 04:38
I didnt notice anything either. :(
(MPC, xvid decoder).
foxyshadis
13th February 2006, 05:00
Looking over all the frames in vdub with xvid and ffdshow decoders I notice no quality problems except at frame 30, a key frame (you really need to raise your I-frame boost). Maybe your decoder is outdated and can't handle packed bitstream? Try the latest xvid or ffdshow and see if it still shows up for you.
sysKin
13th February 2006, 05:29
I don't see any flicker either.
What's your decoder and at what settings? Postprocessing can cause flicker because its strength depends on quantizer, and b-frames have higher quantizer.
Soulhunter
13th February 2006, 07:04
Random guess: Try to disable anti-aliasing in ya GFX options!
Bye
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