menu audio problem with 1.07

[kbello]

I backup David Gilmour In Concert r1... the menu size is 637 Mb... all works nice, but the encoded menu haven't audio... i test with powerdvd and media player classic

EDIT:

the main feature have two audios: Audio1: PCM; Audio2: DD 5.1.... i wipe the first, may be also wipe menu audio

[jptheripper]

kbello, good thinking. Can you try the audio remapping feature and remap the dd 5.1 audio to the audio1 in the menu?

[kbello]

don't work... dvdrb wipe all "audios 1" in VTS_02: menu(DD 5.1) and concert(PCM) ... in menu no more audios to remap.

[jptheripper]

oh thats not good. can you open the rebuilt disk in shrink (or other) and see the size of the menu audios? this will tell if its a mapping issue or a blanking issue

also please post your .ini

[jdobbs]

Hmmm.... I did a whole lot of menus in testing and didn't have that problem. The audio selections or remapping should have no impact on the Menus... all audio tracks are kept.

Did you do any other type of preprocessing?

[kbello]

My ini...


[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=1
NoWarn=0
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=0
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
Skin=Rebuilder Default
AudioDub=0
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=MPEG Standard
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=DAVID_GILMOUR
DVD_Name=DAVID_GILMOUR.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=0000
Convert_16_9=0000
DisableInterlace=0000
ConvertToYUY2=1
CCE=3
Completed=1
[Paths]
MPEG2DEC=D:\DVD\DVD-RB\DVD-RBv107pro\DGDecode.dll
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\CCE SP\cctspt.exe
Source=D:\DVD\DAVID_GILMOUR\VIDEO_TS\
Working=E:\DAVID_GILMOUR\
[Audio]
Selected=1011
[Subpictures]
Selected=
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=30
Quality_prec=20
eclPasses=8


I didn't any preprocessing

[jdobbs]

I just did a test in which I did a DVD and removed all the audio tracks from all the VTSs... and it had no effect on the menus. I'll PM you.

[SPURDOG]

I've just backed up a dvd with menu encoding on and it worked great. No Pre-processing and no audio removed.
Nice work jdobbs!!!

SPURDOG

[kbello]

@jdobbs

i test another dvd (beatles anthology ntsc disc1) and i got the same if i wipe audio 1 in main feature

[jdobbs]

There has to be something unique in your setup... as you are the only person reporting this... I just can't figure what it could possibly be.

[Boulder]

I once tried encoding This Is Spinal Tap's extras disc menus with NuMenu4U. For some reason, the audio was never kept. When I looked at the disc in DVD Shrink, the menu's audio track was marked as unreferenced. Maybe this is a similar case. I never found out how to deal with it :(

[Zeul]

All i can think of is if the original has multiple audio tracks (against the DVD specs), and both RB and Numenu are keeping only the first track (which is DVD Spec compliant). What ID is the audio mapped to? Jdobbs would this make a difference to RB if for example the audio was 0x82 and not 0x80?

[Boulder]

In my case, there was only that one audio track, an LPCM one to consume a huge amount of space. Actually I don't remember what I did but I'm quite sure I kept the audio there as the extras disc wasn't that much above the capacity of a 4.7GB disc. I'll have to see if I can find the movie at home (I moved recently and some stuff is still unpacked).

[jdobbs]

Not in menus. When scanning standard VOB files, DVD-RB keeps a list of IDs to ignore when it is rebuilding. But when doing menus the list is empty, so anything/everything is kept.

The one possibility I can think where it might "appear" that a menu's audio has been blanked is when it isn't actually a "menu". It's possible to use BOV to create action that appears to be like a menu -- even though it isn't in a VTS_XX_0.VOB file. "Charlie and the Chocolate Factor" does that with the Oompa Loompa dance. You can also remove the subtitle in that one and the BOV "footsteps" go away.All i can think of is if the original has multiple audio tracks (against the DVD specs), and both RB and Numenu are keeping only the first track (which is DVD Spec compliant). What ID is the audio mapped to? Jdobbs would this make a difference to RB if for example the audio was 0x82 and not 0x80?

[jdobbs]

I found what is causing this. It happens when the Stream ID of the audio track in the Menu doesn't exist in the main VTS... I'll fix it and get another version out.

[Sophoclesdrf]

kbello

When you're doing concert footage you usually have to keep all audio tracks anyway if you want everything to work. The PCM tracks are usually added soundtracks from previous recordings and are not included in the DD/DTS tracks so you don't want to get rid of it because it's usually not redundant. That being said you should have at least the audio track that you selected to keep. I have over 100 concerts and I learned the hard way not to remove any sound tracks unless I'm certain that they're redundant and in concert footage unless its interview stuff the rarely are. The Beatles Anthology was a perfect example, by removing the PCM tracks I lost entire sections of sound track when the movie shifted from AC3 to PCM.

[kbello]

@jdobbs

thanks for your work :)

[jdobbs]

On the particular disc for which he sent me the data it would make no difference. The stream IDs for the two tracks on the VTS are 0xA0 and 0x81... the menu on the other hand is 0x80.

I've fixed it. I'm trying to correct one more bug related to ILVU and the multiple encoder code -- and hopefully I can get v1.07.1 out quickly with the fixes.

[jdobbs]

@kbello

Thanks for the help...

[kbello]

i test again david gilmour live concert and works perfect...thanks jdobbs

[jdobbs]

:cool: