DVD Rebuilder 1.04 Pro Stutter issues

[nivremous]

I am very happy with DVD Rebuilder. I think it is the best thing since DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. Usually with DVD Shrink, I fully trust the transcoded DVD which then the only thing I need to check is the reliability of the DVD media. Despite the little lost of quality atleast I fully expect that the transcoded DVD with DVD Shrink plays 100% with all my players. I have not seen any issues with DVD's compressed by DVD Shrink.

Then I began using DVD Rebuilder with the promise of better quality. I just need to sacrifice my time and DVD media to test. And I did. I followed the instructions in here. Made research as what needs to be done. I did test the DVD's that I encoded. And during my usual spot checks (meaning just making sure that the DVD's are playing) I found that the quality are better than DVD Shrink and so I was happy.

I encoded 8 DVD's.

Then after a week, I boasted to my friends that I found the best encoding tool ever and even went to recommend DVD Rebuilder. And to my utter shock and shame the DVD stuttered.

I checked with my computer and found that it also stuttered on the exact place. I thought the problem is the source so I tried other encoded DVD's. The 3rd DVD stuttered.

Here then I forced myself to watch all 8 DVD's before using DVD Rebuilder again for encoding. My confidence with this software slowly shrunk. I repeatedly told myself that the problem might be the source.

4 out of 8 DVD's stuttered.

I don't really know what's wrong. I used the basics. Here's my config setup.

Encoder - CCE Basic 2.7
I have not changed any settings and kept the basics as recommended:
VBR_Bias - 20
Qual Prec - 16
The only thing I changed is I added a filter - Undot and Deen
I encode full DVD with the extras. I steal space from the extra but I don't use any Halfs.

DVD's that stuttered are Samura Champloo 1 (at the first episode when Mugen and Jin fought on separate places), Samurai Champloo 3 (at the intro song of the first episode), Samurai Champloo 4 (near the end), Samurai Champloo 5 (third episode - damn I haven't even watched it completely disgusted by sudden stutter of the DVD). Neon Genesis Evangelion (intro song of the first episode).

I have to say that my confidence with DVD Rebuilder shrunk. I then went back to DVD Shrink and transcoded my Evangelion series and they all worked fine. Because of DVD Rebuilder I felt very grateful that I have DVD Shrink and the convenience of one hour transcoding. Atleast with DVD Shrink I don't have to worry about weird settings and reliability of the shrunk DVD as I know that it will run completely without fail on any player on any condition.

What has gone wrong? I researched everywhere and nobody seems to figure out these stutter issues. This means that I have to force myself to watch the shrunk DVD's. Do I need to learn more about DVD Rebuilder? But no one is helping.

I just want to encode Anime DVD series. What settings do I need to have? What else do I need to know? I don't really mind sacrificing hours of learning how to set DVD Rebuilder up as long as it's reliable and can be used for all Anime DVD's.

Please help.

[HKT3020_1]

You might want to check your email as I'm sure Jdobbs has sent you upgrades since 1.04.:rolleyes: Current version is 1.06.1, you might want to try that and post back if the problem continues.

[Rippraff]

Hi nivremous.

I don't watch anime DVD series but I guess there is more than one movie on each DVD. If this is the case don't use
I steal space from the extra but I don't use any Halfs.
as RB decides the biggest VTS to be the main movie and all others to be extras!

You might also have a look at Rockas Matrix Editor and chose one of the matrices for animated movies.

Cu Rippraff

[nivremous]

Thank you very much for your replies.

Yes. I have figured not to use Steal Space section when I attempted to encode Neon Genesis Evangelion. Unfortunately the encoded DVD stuttered too.

I would check DVD Rebuilder 1.06 but I'm really doubtful. I guess I have to hang on. I don't really know what's causing the stutter issues and worst--- nobody can figure out. I'm not sure whether to invest hours of encoding and forcing to watch encoded DVD to check whether the DVD would work.

That's the one that hurt a lot. You would need to watch the whole newly encoded DVD to check whether it works and then if it doesn't then you have to change settings. But I want my encoding uniform and the same for all DVD which means I would have to start the DVD series again from the beginning to incorporate changes. Sigh.

Thanks again.

[DK]

I would check DVD Rebuilder 1.06 but I'm really doubtful. I guess I have to hang on

let me get this straight:

you dont want to give later versions a try but you want us to make up our minds and come up with solutions to very rare problems?

[hallway]

I would check DVD Rebuilder 1.06 but I'm really doubtful. I guess I have to hang on. Granted, there may be a problem in 1.04 that's causing this and what, you want a workaround ?? There's also a chance that the numerous updates since 1.04 (there's been a few) has fixed this.

Do I understand you right in that you want this whole series to be re-encoded using the same version of DVD-RB ?? Because of possible variations ??

[feedback]

The only thing I changed is I added a filter - Undot and Deen.
Try without the 2 filters.
Try with all default settings. Except, Tick the 'Output to ISO image file' and burn with the app. 'ImgBurn'.
Also, I suggest burning at 4x with 'ImgBurn' (approx. 13 mins. for my burn) as 'Max' burns sometimes cause me problems but burning at 4x results in perfect burns every time.
Upgrade to the latest RB Pro. version.

Good Luck,

P.S. It can't hurt to just try these options.

[nivremous]

Wow. I guess people love to defend this software. I guess I have to stop being negative otherwise I won't be given any assistance.

I apologize if I sound negative (bows to the floor and push head onto it too).

Forgiven me now?

Yes I will try version 1.06.

Forgiven me now?

I guess 4 out 8 Anime DVD's is pretty rare.

It is my mistake. It is not DVD Rebuilder's fault. I did something wrong. I did something stupid. I am stupid and I am very hopeless. It is not DVD Rebuilder's fault. It is not DVD Rebuilder's fault that its output DVD tends to stutter with Anime DVD sources. It is my fault. It is my fault that I am not knowledgeable enough to use a supposedly one-click encoding software. It is my fault that I don't know enough in regards to encoding DVD's using DVD Rebuilder. Completely my fault and mine alone.

I was disappointed but it is my fault. My fault alone not DVD Rebuilder. It is my fault that I need to know about matrices, bitrates, settings, compatabilities etc to be able to use DVD Rebuilder and effectively make it useful and reliable.

My fault alone.

I just need an expert advise on what needs to be done. And a simple direction for a simple minded person like me who just wants to back up DVD without worrying about anything else. A simple minded person who just needs a reliable backup procedure.

Forgiven me now?

Cheers.

[jptheripper]

what needs to be done:

well to do still have the files (from rb) on the computer? play them to see if they stutter (not from the disk or copies back from the disk). This will isolate if the output is to blame, or your disk (maybe you just had a bad batch of disks)

if the output is to blame (identical stuttering) than we can further hunt down then redo the project from scratch with 1.06.1

if the output is fine, your burn was bad, reburn as recommended above.

[nivremous]

Thank you so much for the constructive replies.

To Hallway:

You are correct. If you have a series of DVD, which is common for Anime DVD's, you would want that they're quality settings equal so that it won't vary across the DVD series.

For example: You test the first DVD of the Anime series and it worked. You loved the settings and you wanted that to be applied across the series. Then suddenly you found that the third and fourth DVD stuttered. Then that means you would have to change settings on third and fourth DVD which means its quality may be better or lesser than the first two. To stop this you would have to re-encode the whole series, right?

This is how I felt - smashed. Which is why at first I was disappointed and constantly blamed the source. But... why only the 3 out of 5?

PLEASE! Don't get me wrong I AM NOT BLAMING DVD REBUILDER! It is my fault. I am quite sure it is my stupidity that caused the stuttering of DVDs. Probably my sheer stupid presence in front of the DVD Player.

To feedback:

I love the filters. I thinks its the best thing as it made the output DVD better.

I will keep on testing. Probably I'll stay away from the DVD Player while I play it so it won't stutter.

Cheers.

[wmansir]

After your last post I cannot see this thread being very productive.

If you decide you actually want to cooperate in finding a solution to your problem then feel free to start a new thread. If you just want to disparager DVD-RB and make sarcastic comments then don't.