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plomon
29th January 2006, 08:29
most of the denoisers are third-party and can be downloaded from http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/ , and most of those include a readme which explains what they do, how to use them, and usually provides sample use cases. (Docs for many 3rd party filters are also included with Avisynth.) Once the revamp of the wiki is complete that will also be a direct resource.

The reason they have parameters at all is that there is no best setting, every source is unique, but the defaults are tuned to be the "best" for the most sources.

If you need help beyond that, searching this forum for a filter name is guaranteed to find you more information on how to use it.
thx a lot foxyshadis. I posting a few captures from the movie se7en(starring Brad Pitt & Morgan Freeman). These are screenshots of an avisynth script file written on the d2v project of the movie. The script is here:

mpeg2source("f:\se7en\se7en.d2v")
LoadPlugin("d:\program files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\warp\warpsharp.dll")
TomsMoComp(-1,5,1)
ConvertToYV12()
Convolution3d("movielq")
WarpSharp (128, 3,128, -0.6)
Crop(4,58,-8,-60)
LancZosResize(640,272)

The captures are taken from VDub on opening the above script.
Here are they:

Cap1
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap1.jpg

Cap2
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap2.jpg

Cap3
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap3.jpg

Cap4
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap4.jpg

Cap5
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap5.jpg

Cap6
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/plomon/Superficial/cap6.jpg

In caps 1&2, the backround is Rain. It's a rainy shot. The raining looks very dull to me. The backround seems to be more ghosty. The rain is only sometimes visible clearly(as in Cap2 rather than Cap1).

In Cap3, Bradd Pitt's face has no sharp edges. It looks very blurred.

In Caps 4,5&6, the green wall in the background is extremely pale and dull. Despite the application of a few filters, the screen here looks very rusty and like an old film. I don't know much about filters and their usage. But, from the explanations given about smoothening and sharpening filters, I felt like using the Convolution3d and WarpSharp filters.

Since the source is an Interlaced MPEG2, I used TomsMoComp filter to deinterlace.

The brightness of the entire movie is extremly low. Can this be a reason for my thinking about the lack of sharpness in the captures ?? I don't know.

After looking at the captures, if anyone else too feels that some more enhancement is needed or can be done to the movie and if I need to change the script I wrote, please suggest them now.

Fizick
2nd February 2006, 23:16
plomon,
this thread is about "speed and compression of different denosers".
Please post to another thread or create new. Please delete your last post here (it is offtopic).

Wilbert
3rd February 2006, 00:20
@plomon,
I split of the last two posts to a new thread. Oh, and perhaps is posting a few (as in two or three) screenshots is sufficient next time (jpeg and not png) to show the results of your processed caps. Otherwise it will take ages to load your posts depending on the connection.

mg262
3rd February 2006, 01:39
90% of the time processed shots are useless. A chunk of the source and a couple of screenshots are appropriate here.

The man in the final screenshot looks like a cardboard cutout to me. Same sort of effect you had on old programs where actors were superimposed on an unrelated background (bluescreen stuff).

Mug Funky
3rd February 2006, 05:47
perhaps you could find different sources... chainmax's bitrate scan of "silence of the lambs" showed 1500kbps which is nowhere near enough for mpeg-2. i understand that there may not be better sources available, but if you can afford to ebay for better releases, it would be worth your while i suspect (i've got the r4 of Seven, and it's a cut above those screenshots, filters aside - the transfer is simply better. i can't vouch for Silence of the Lambs, but at the very least it'll have a much higher bitrate).

Lil' Jer
3rd February 2006, 06:01
Since the source is an Interlaced MPEG2, I used TomsMoComp filter to deinterlace.

Huh? I own this movie and it is not interlaced. Can you post a link to the exact DVD that you own that you took these screenshots from? Secondly, posting already filtered shots doesn't help us. If you are going to post screenshots post unfiltered.

Lil' Jer
3rd February 2006, 06:09
(i've got the r4 of Seven, and it's a cut above those screenshots, filters aside - the transfer is simply better. i can't vouch for Silence of the Lambs, but at the very least it'll have a much higher bitrate).

I own the R1 DTS version of this movie and it looks nothing as bad as those screenshots, in fact the quality is quite excellent, not to mention the fact that it isn't interlaced either.

Boulder
3rd February 2006, 07:26
@plomon: would you care to tell us where you got the Se7en and Silence of the Lambs DVDs?

Chainmax
3rd February 2006, 12:57
plomon: ditch TomsMoComp. Your experience with Silence of the Lambs should have already told you that it blurs the picture too much. Besides, this movie is most likely telecined, not interlaced. Read the capture guide (http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/ACG41.zip), the IVTC tutorial (http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm) and the Decomb package's readmes, tutorial and reference guides (http://www.neuron2.net/decomb/decombnew.html). They have a lot of extremely useful info on the subject.

If you want high quality deinterlacing, download TDeint.dll, EEDI2.dll and use either of the following lines:

For TFF:

interp = separatefields().eedi2(field=3)
tdeint(mode=1,order=1,edeint=interp)


For BFF:

interp = separatefields().eedi2(field=2)
tdeint(mode=1,order=0,edeint=interp)


For faster encodes with good quality, use LeakKernelDeint with a threshold of 8 or 6.


For high quality IVTC, download TIVTC.dll, TDeint.dll, EEDI2.dll and use either of the following lines:

For TFF:
AssumeTFF()
interp = separatefields().selecteven().EEDI2(field=1)
deinted=tdeint(order=1,field=1,edeint=interp)
TFM(mode=1,order=1,clip2=deinted)
TDecimate(mode=1)

For BFF clips:

interp = separatefields().selecteven().EEDI2(field=0)
deinted = tdeint(edeint=interp,order=0,field=0)
tfm(clip2 = deinted,order=0)
TDecimate(mode=1)

For faster encodes with good quality, use the Decomb package.