DVD-RB before editing or after?

[nomorecoasters]

After reading the FAQ i noticed this one.

Q5. There are other tools out there that allow me to remove streams, extras, audio, and other parts of a DVD. Can I run these on the source before using DVD-RB to make the final build?

A5. Yes, I would never want to stifle creativity. But do so at your own risk. Some (well... most) of these programs "butcher" the source without taking every aspect of the DVD into consideration. A butchered source can confuse DVD-RB (or any other program downstream) and cause it to do strange things... Any DVD-RB bug reports you decide to post should only apply to non-butchered sources.

Is it better to delete menus/unwanted trailors etc to lower the filesize before using dvd-rb or after.
I understand what your saying about using a 'virgin' source, but if your getting 'rid' of maybe 500mb off the original film then isn't it better for the quality after dvd-rb has been used as theres less to compress?

I only use Vob-Blanker so not sure if thats one fot he prgrams that 'butchers' the the source?

If its better to use dvd-rb first and the quality will be better then i can just as easily do that :)

[Rippraff]

Well it depends on the RB version. If your working with the Pro you can blank unwanted stuff within RB.

If your working with the free version, blank things before you run RB as you can get better quality.
But if you're running into problems, please redo your movie with an unpreprocessed source, as jdobbs can't support problems which might be related to other programs.

Cu Rippraff

[nomorecoasters]

First off thanks for the quick reply :)

Ive got the pro version 1.04 but it doesnt pick up everything i.e the language menu on first play of dvd( the one where theres about 4 screens of languages to skip through)
The new version of vob-blanker 2.1.0.0 shows this menu and blanks it fine, so i was doing that first before using dvd-rb, but if wasn't sure if it was better to blank before or after dvd-rb.

[Rippraff]

Always before and this is easy to explain: Say your original source is 7 GB and you can save 500 MB by blanking parts of the menu, so RB has to deal with 6.5 GB as source to get the final size of 4.3 GB.

If you would do it after the only effect would be to lower final size to 3.8 GB. ;)

Cu Rippraff

[HKT3020_1]

After reading the FAQ i noticed this one.



Is it better to delete menus/unwanted trailors etc to lower the filesize before using dvd-rb or after.
I understand what your saying about using a 'virgin' source, but if your getting 'rid' of maybe 500mb off the original film then isn't it better for the quality after dvd-rb has been used as theres less to compress?

I only use Vob-Blanker so not sure if thats one fot he prgrams that 'butchers' the the source?

If its better to use dvd-rb first and the quality will be better then i can just as easily do that :)

I usually edit my DVD sources but if I run across a problem then I just run the source straight through DVD-RB before submitting a problem to Jdobbs.:sly: A good program like DvdReMake Pro is a tool I feel nobody should be without, a good simple program that makes blanking and editing a DVD as easy as can be. Recently if you browse through DVDs with Ripguard protected discs, you'll find a 500-600MB blank file in the menu that has no purpose whatsoever. So that alone will degrade the quality unless you remove it or edit it. After editing any DVD, it would also be a good idea to run it through PgcEdit, making sure it meets DVD standards as well as fixing the number of streams.:cool:

[nomorecoasters]

Thanks for the answers that's cleared up that niggly question thats been bugging me since reading that FAQ :D

Thats what i thought about deleting menus first as the filesize will be smaller for dvd-rb to deal with :)

[SpazzHH]

Ive got the pro version 1.04 but it doesnt pick up everything i.e the language menu on first play of dvd( the one where theres about 4 screens of languages to skip through)

And it's always best to upgrade to the latest version available, with all the upgrades and bug-fixes. Why would you still be running 1.04? It's very old and hard to support if you have any problems.

[Rippraff]

@SpazzHH

Right. I know I've forgotten something... ;)

Cu Rippraff

[nomorecoasters]

To be honest with you the i had quite a few problems setting up CCE with the free versions and the program freezing, so when i finally managed to get v1.04 set up as i liked and have come across no problems as yet with it('touchwood') i am a it nervous about upgrading in case i encounter more problems.

[SpazzHH]

To be honest with you the i had quite a few problems setting up CCE with the free versions and the program freezing, so when i finally managed to get v1.04 set up as i liked and have come across no problems as yet with it('touchwood') i am a it nervous about upgrading in case i encounter more problems.

The Full Installer does all the setup for you, and you can even choose to keep your old .ini file during install. Plus if you're using the latest version, you have all the support you need right here if you do have any problems.

[jptheripper]

if you are cutting 500mb of menus (for example) the best way would be to

use dvd-rb first and resize the end product (by using target sectors or rb-opt) by 500mb, then blank the features afterwards. Not the easiest method, but the best for compatibility.

[OvERaCiD23]

I let DVD-RB blank out titlesets on most discs, but for those that are oddballs (large portions of menu VOBs that aren't needed, extras in the main titleset) I use VobBlanker and PgcEdit to do the cleanup. Any post-processing involves small things like pre/post commands, removing parental management, etc. I've yet to have any problems on hundreds of rips; most problems I've seen in the forum come from using Remake or Shrink to do pre-processing.

[nomorecoasters]

Ive now taken the plunge and upgraded and was wondering if theres a guide for using DVD-RB blanking out the menus/extras etc?

Also i occasionally have been getting 'bad disc' after dvd has been put in dvd player, i was wondering if it because i have been blanking out possibly wrong segments. not sure if thats possible or not, maybe i may ned to make a new thread for this question?

[jptheripper]

no menu encoding yet.. keep waiting

on extras, simply prepare the disk in 3 click mode. then go to the preview tab and blank as needed. YOu may need to unclick "show only extras" if you want to blank parts of the movie. Its very intuitive once you try it

Blanking should never make a bad disk. Bad burns do

[Insane2986]

I usually edit my DVD sources but if I run across a problem then I just run the source straight through DVD-RB before submitting a problem to Jdobbs.:sly: A good program like DvdReMake Pro is a tool I feel nobody should be without, a good simple program that makes blanking and editing a DVD as easy as can be.
Ditto, DVDRemake is probably the single best program to edit dvds. It can do pretty much anything to a dvd except encode