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ubrikkean
29th January 2006, 05:05
basically, i use anydvd while encoding so i dont have to use anything like dvd decryptor, i can rip directly from disc to avi. but for tv shows, specifically the simpsons and family guy, i cant get autogk to rip the episodes individually. i select the ifo for the episodes, and it asks which pcg, but no matter which one i choose it rips the whole thing into one file. is there any way to rip the episodes individually using agk? or is there another program that will do it? im looking for a one-stage process here, so don't bother telling me to rip the dvd before conversion please...
CWR03
29th January 2006, 05:31
im looking for a one-stage process here, so don't bother telling me to rip the dvd before conversion please...
In that case, you've pretty much limited the answer to your question to a big "no..."
Since it would be editing the video after the encode it may be an acceptable response that you can use VirtualDubMod to split out the individual episodes.
DVD Decrypter in IFO mode is how I do it, but I won't tell you to use it, so don't bother reading this part.
ubrikkean
29th January 2006, 05:36
sorry, that was a bad way of saying it, i just would like to be able to leave a movie over night and have it converted when i wake up... also, if there are even converters that can do it that i would have to pay for, please tell me... and i still wonder why autogk asks which pcg to convert if it just converts all of them anyway... and is virtualdubmod easy to use for someone who isnt experienced with video editing?
CWR03
29th January 2006, 19:39
As far as I know, there are no automated converters that can do what you ask. VirtualDubMod is fairly easy to use for saving the individual episodes after the encode, but not for the actual encoding.
Why can't you individually rip the episodes? It's not difficult at all and doesn't take long, and you can batch encode all the episodes overnight.
nix0
30th January 2006, 21:56
If you rip each episode to a separate directory (using DVDdecrypter in IFO mode) then you can use agk to batch process them all. I do this a lot - no interaction needed once you start the batch running!
ubrikkean
31st January 2006, 00:08
sorry if this sounds rude, but the point was that i wanted a way to rip the seperate ones with anydvd, not dvd decryptor...
CWR03
31st January 2006, 08:24
sorry if this sounds rude, but the point was that i wanted a way to rip the seperate ones with anydvd, not dvd decryptor...
Since you never asked that, it would have been difficult to answer, but as far as I can tell by this tutorial (http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72022) it doesn't support ripping episodes individually. If it does, someone else will have to show you how - I don't see it.
ubrikkean
1st February 2006, 03:24
basically, i use anydvd while encoding so i dont have to use anything like dvd decryptor, i can rip directly from disc to avi.
i did (?)... anyway, thx for the help, ill probably just end up using some program that gives a worse quality rip in exchange for doing the individuals... also, it might not have been clear: anydvd does not rip, so a tutorial for it wouldnt really be any help, its doing what its supposed to do: remove the copyright protection without having to rip. i just want to find a dvd ripper (apparently it cant be autogk) that can rip the individual episodes from a multi-episode dvd disc without having to rip the dvd onto the computer first, ignoring the problem of copyright protection... is it clear now? it seems like i didnt explain it right before (?)
CWR03
1st February 2006, 07:09
is there any way to rip the episodes individually using agk? or is there another program that will do it?is what you asked, and by eliminating DVD Decrypter you've placed constraints on anyone's ability to be of more help.
What's wrong with using DVD Decrypter?
setarip_old
1st February 2006, 08:37
@ubrikkean
Hi!no matter which one i choose it rips the whole thing into one file.Have you ascertained whether the episodes are, in fact separate, titles or merely separate chapters?
ubrikkean
2nd February 2006, 01:31
@CWR03
:P im seriously starting to wonder if anyone is reading these posts.... im just looking for a way to go straight from dvd disc to avi without an extra step... whats wrong with dvd decryptor is that it adds another step, which is what i was trying to avoid (and do for most dvds) by getting anydvd.
@setarip_old
definately titles, 5-7 per disc with about 6 chapters per title, all on the 3rd IFO.
apparently from the comments im getting, there is absolutely no way in hell to rip individual episodes from a dvd without using dvd decryptor.
setarip_old
2nd February 2006, 01:39
Reaching a bit here but, if each episode is an individual .VOB, you should be able to use VirtualDubMOD with its "Job Control" function to accomplish your purpose (Or, similarly, "MPEGMediator Special Edition"
ubrikkean
2nd February 2006, 01:59
thanks for the idea, but theyre all split into 8 or 9 vobs... otherwise i actually might have been able to just do it with agk
setarip_old
2nd February 2006, 03:00
I'm curious to know:
1) If you rip the DVD to your hard drive using DVD Decrypter (NOT AnyDVD), and use AGK to select the desired PGC, does it also select ALL of the episodes?
2) If you rip the DVD to your hard drive using AnyDVD, and use AGK to select the desired PGC, does it also select ALL of the episodes?
manono
2nd February 2006, 15:10
You do know that by keeping the DVD-ROM active for the hours and hours of encoding, you're stressing it unnecessarily and shortening its lifespan, don't you? Those may be the reasons why 1) people are wondering about your aversion to using DVD Decrypter, and 2) no programs are available to do what you're asking. It's a stupid idea.
ubrikkean
3rd February 2006, 03:52
wow... ok... so dvd decrypter doesnt work any better than agk does, it rips all the pcgs of a single ifo even if i deselect all but one...
@ manono
thx for the info about the dvd-rom, but the encoding doesnt take longer than 2 hours or so anyway, its hardly more stress than watching the movie, eh? and as ive explained many times, i'm trying to cut down on as many manual steps as possible, which includes using dvd decrypter. one nice thing i did notice though is that anydvd cuts down on the total dvd decryption time by doing the protection-removal so that dvd decryptor doesnt have to. plus some of the dvds i want to rip are on my hard drive already anyway from a while ago, and i wanna be able to rip those too, so the whole dvd-rom wearing out thing doesnt really apply to those...
@setarip_old
just wanna make it clear, since nobody seems to know what anydvd is, it doesnt rip the dvd, just removes the protection without ripping. anyway, to the point: when i try to select the pcg, it says i have the particular one selected, but when i actually rip, it puts all the pcgs into one clip as the result .avi. and thanks btw for being the only one that takes this whole thing seriously at all.
manono
3rd February 2006, 04:22
You're right, I'm one of the ones that doesn't take this seriously. However, if you're having trouble with DVD Decrypter, then that intrigues me. So, you're in IFO Mode (up at the top, Mode->IFO), and it shows a bunch of PGCs within the same VTS? And each one is the length of one of the episodes? And you highlight each one in turn, but you get them all? Then I'm not sure I believe you. Sometimes there will be a "Play All" feature in the DVD, and one of the PGCs will be for all of the episodes together, but the others will be for each individual episode. In any event, if you could post a pic of the DVD Decrypter screen you're seeing, that might help. Use Imageshack, if you have no other way.
CWR03
3rd February 2006, 09:32
AutoGK is limited to filtering out a single angle from a movie, but doesn't know how to encode a particular episode out of a PGC. Since no one else has offered any solution other than ripping the episodes individually with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode or separating them after the encode with VirtualDubMod, it doesn't seem like there's any other option that anyone knows about.
In all the time it's taken you to read the responses and ask more questions here, you could have ripped a lot of DVD's individual episodes in preparation for encoding with AutoGK.
ubrikkean
4th February 2006, 20:22
@cwr03
oh dont worry, ive been spending the time ripping my other dvds... and ill try to get dvd decrypter to work right.... and its not like it takes a long time to read and respond to this stuff.
@manono
i can explain a little more fully before putting up a screen shot... dvd decrypter in ifo mode rips a roughly 1.5 gb vob with an ifo when i decrypt a single episode, which already doesnt make sense since the dvd is 8gb with 7 episodes and menus, but it also isnt enough for all the episodes i think. then, when i try to rip the decrypted thing on my hard drive with autogk, it still detects the same 7 pcgs it detects straight from the dvd. one other problem is that i cant figure out how to (if i can at all) decrypt a dvd thats already on my hard drive
CWR03
4th February 2006, 20:56
@cwr03
oh dont worry, ive been spending the time ripping my other dvds... and ill try to get dvd decrypter to work right.... and its not like it takes a long time to read and respond to this stuff.
That was my point - 30 minute eps usually take less than five minutes each to decrypt.
If you're having trouble "seeing" the individual eps in the right pane, right-click it and select "Expand all." In almost every case the eps will be listed individually, even if they're also listed as one PGC. Babylon 5 is the most unusual I've seen - they're listed all in one, again separately, and one is shown a third time, probably duplicated to fill the disk.
I've only seen one instance when they weren't listed separately - I think it was an early season of South Park.
manono
5th February 2006, 00:49
Hi-
i cant figure out how to (if i can at all) decrypt a dvd thats already on my hard drive
One way is to make an ISO of it using, for example, ImgTool Classic, mount it in in a virtual drive using Daeman Tools, and then decrypt it using DVD Decrypter.
dvd decrypter in ifo mode rips a roughly 1.5 gb vob with an ifo when i decrypt a single episode, which already doesnt make sense since the dvd is 8gb with 7 episodes and menus, but it also isnt enough for all the episodes i think.
Sounds to me like it's doing it's job then. You're saying that if all of them are 1.5 GB it'll add up to too much? Then play it after decrypting to make sure you have the whole thing, no more and no less. Maybe the other episodes are smaller. Maybe there aren't really 7 episodes on the DVD, but 4 or 5.
CWR03-
I've only seen one instance when they weren't listed separately - I think it was an early season of South Park.
It's not unusual for anime to be like that. Usually each episode is a certain number of chapters within the PGC. 4 episodes and 20 chapters means that each episode is 5 chapters, and you decrypt the episodes 5 chapters at a time.
setarip_old
5th February 2006, 01:45
@ubrikkean@setarip_old
just wanna make it clear, since nobody seems to know what anydvd is, it doesnt rip the dvd, just removes the protection without ripping. anyway, to the point: when i try to select the pcg, it says i have the particular one selected, but when i actually rip, it puts all the pcgs into one clip as the result .avi. and thanks btw for being the only one that takes this whole thing seriously at all.I'm aware of what "AnyDVD" is. Perhaps the word "rip" is causing some confusion:
1) If you COPY the DVD to your hard drive using DVD Decrypter (WITHOUT running AnyDVD), and use AGK to select the desired PGC, does it also select ALL of the episodes?
2) If you COPY the DVD to your hard drive while running ONLY AnyDVD, and use AGK to select the desired PGC, does it also select ALL of the episodes?
ubrikkean
5th February 2006, 17:34
ok, responses:
@CWR03
im sure i selected it right, i had no trouble seeing the pcgs or anything... did i say i did?
@manono
hm, yea... unfortunately daemon tools gets an error every time i run it on this computer, so i have to use a different crappy virtual drive program... still will work of course, though if i get daemon tools to work, could i just mount the dvd folder instead of making an iso?
im sure the dvd is 7 episodes, i dunno which is screwed up, the ifo or the vob... its definately possible that it could be ripping just the single episode, but the ifo that goes with the ripped vob is the same as the original one for all 7 episodes as far as i can tell.
@setarip_old
ya, it was the word "rip" :P. anyway, it selects 1 episode, and rips them all which ever way i do it.
ive found a temporary solution, im using clonedvd mobile... the quality is kinda bad for the file size, but i guess itll do for now...
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