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Neo Neko
23rd January 2006, 21:44
DRM is a complete lie (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29161)

Truth. ;)

Doobie
24th January 2006, 19:12
What's the real point of DRM when it effectively promotes piracy by crippling legal products without stopping pirates? DRM does just the opposite of what we're told DRM is for.

Look at Apple making a killing with iTunes. DRM is Apple's golden goose that keeps the competitors away. The government should sooner prohibit DRM on anti-competitive grounds than protect DRM with draconian laws.

Neo Neko
26th January 2006, 22:45
What's the real point of DRM when it effectively promotes piracy by crippling legal products without stopping pirates? DRM does just the opposite of what we're told DRM is for.

Look at Apple making a killing with iTunes. DRM is Apple's golden goose that keeps the competitors away. The government should sooner prohibit DRM on anti-competitive grounds than protect DRM with draconian laws.

Indeed. I just picked up a copy of Transporter 2 the other day. I almost ran back to the store to return it and give them a good piece of my mind after reading the case good.

This DVD is copy protected.

What? More than usual? I am gonna try and back it up if for no other reason than they told me I could not. ;) What's worse is that on top of the unskippable ads there is an unskippable short clip that falsely compares shoplifting and pirating with downloading. Totally different things. So much pablum and propaganda. It is sickening. What's worse. Since most people can't/don't back up their DVDs and can't cut such utter crap out that after a while being forced to watch it every time they might actually start believing it!

DryFire
26th January 2006, 23:01
I have a feeling we'll be seeing a wave of anti-trust/monopoly esque laws in the near future at this rate. DRM is pretty disgusting, to think thye'd make me buy new hardware just so it supports their copy protection makes me want to become a pirate.

celtic_druid
27th January 2006, 03:00
I hear that the coast of Somalia is good. For piracy that is.

Sirber
27th January 2006, 03:30
digg! ;)

http://digg.com/music/DRM_is_a_complete_lie

lazyn00b
28th January 2006, 17:31
Indeed. I just picked up a copy of Transporter 2 the other day. I almost ran back to the store to return it and give them a good piece of my mind after reading the case good.

Actually, Transporter 2 (in my region) has a rare and unbeatable form of copy protection - worse than ANY DRM. They made it into a dual sided "flipper disc" with the widescreen version on the top (i.e. label side). This means that unless you are the first person to rent it, there will be a bunch of scratches and some grubby kid's peanut-butter-and-jelly fingerprints all over the widescreen side. The one I had was so bad that I had to flip it over and watch it fullscreen (the horror!!!) just to make it all the way to the end without freezing! Needless to say, even DVD Decryptor + AnyDVD couldn't rip this sucker.

DRM can be cracked, but FLIPPERS are forever.

setarip_old
28th January 2006, 18:38
@lazyn00b

Hi!

Of course, the easiest way to circumvent the "copy protection" you've described is to purchase the DVD and handle it carefully...

shevegen
28th January 2006, 20:10
Its an old strategy. You claim that you fight against something, but in fact you promote it.
You present yourself to the public as the unique hero that fights piracy, but since piracy is big business (think of money laundering for example, and it being tied to drugs), it affects many other business areas as well. Or think of copying expensive brands. (Its so fun to see how the corporations and companies run behind China to gain profit. The chinese people are cool, but its a dictatorship, no matter the definition.)
Using patents is a great weapon, not only against other companies (you can arrange with them if you have enough money), BUT against competing products in ANY possible way. Think how Pixar got rid of some rivaling rendering engines.
In all situations "properly presenting" information to the public is a key area - if people know only uncertain and vague information, its easier to disguise the real information.
And it is also easier if the information you present contains a little bit of truth too (such as after rain, normally comes sunshine) ;)

Also... Its such a harsh word - piracy. Theft. STEALING OF PROPERTY (*cough*) Corsairs that rob the poor royal merchants, awww *sniff*

Sony's attitude about installing their trojan watchdog was also fun. A spokesman said something similar to - if you dont know what a rootkit is, you dont need to know about it. Hehe. Talk about hijacking YOUR computer ...

So of course the heroic corporations will need to fight those pirates. And the best way is to have laws that are all equal for them. In all situations money from customers will support this behaviour. And did i forget to mention that the are evil terrorists lurking around the corner too? They are using Linux! ;)

The article is rather nice!

It would be kinda awesome to interview the different corporation's spokefolks and their point of view about DRM protecting content (eh, "public relations" *cough*). Interviewing politicans sucks. They are using the same meaningless phrase again and again.
At any rate it seems obvious that those who can abuse power, will abuse it.