Asvcd? Ksvcd? Bsvcd? Msvcd?

[Razor88]

I got crazy from all of this what next LSVCD??

Anyway I wont check for my self what's better for so I have a guide to BSVCD but I need guides to the rest.

[Amnon82]

KVCD (KVCD.Net)
MVCD (www.molevcd.de/)
AVCD was a bad copy of KVCD. MVCD was also a copy of KVCD once but got developed by german videofreaks so they got there own templates.
Same stuff like DivX and XviD ;)

I'm out of the VCD-Scene, so I can't help you further.

Ask incredible (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=42712)

[Kika]

They all are the same: XSVCD or XVCD, renamed by people with a big ego ... :rolleyes:

Same stuff like DivX and XviD

No, that's a complete different story.

[Razor88]

2 probloms

1.You have to pay money for acsses in kvcd.net.
2.The mvcd forum is in germen.

[jshumate]

This link is free to creating a KVCD
http://www.kvcd.net/guides/kguide/kvcdguide.htm
If you don't know, KVCD is a format that uses VCD resolutions, but it uses non-standard bit rates and GOPs to achieve extremely long playing times. I once made a KVCD from a DVD I have of a foreign movie that's about 2 and a half hours long and it all fit on one CD-R. The quality was VCD like. I would say that the quality was better than I expected, but again, it was like a VCD, not a DVD. Some of KVCD's supporters say ridiculous things like "the quality is just as good as a DVD!" and that simply isn't true.
I think there are a couple of better options if you just want to put as much movie as possible on a CD-R disc. One is DivX/Xvid. Another is, believe it or not, SVCD. I was once given a few minutes sample of an SVCD a guy did and he fit a 2 hour movie on one CD-R in SVCD format. I analyzed it as best I could it appears and based on some converstations another guy had with the guy who created the original SVCD, he used CCE to encode it and he did something like 20 pass VBR on it. His bit rate was wild, ranging from a low of 300 to a high of about 2400 or so. I wouldn't call it DVD quality, but it looked much much better than I would have thought, although there was some ghosting of images due to the low bit rate. If you could live with that, that's another approach you might use. I also remember that the GOPs were all over the place. I don't think they ever got above 15, but they were often weird values like 8, 11 and so on. I have no idea how he was able to make the GOPs change so much.

[Kika]

Yeah, yeah, I'm one of those Guys with up to 2 hours MPEG2 on one CD-R (around 2002). These are things, i've done in my early years - now i'm ashamed about this.
But i never use multipass VBR or even CCE - always TMPGEnc in CQ-Mode - that's still the best. ;)

Now, it's the Year 2006 - there's no need for such things any more, because DVD-Rs are cheap.

[jsoto]

But i never use multipass VBR or even CCE - always TMPGEnc in CQ-Mode - that's still the best. ;)
You should try D2SRoBa... 1st pass is Constant quality based, like TMPGEnc in CQ-Mode, and produces a very good quality. An optional 2nd pass (encoding) gives you the best possible results with CCE in quality and completely accurate size prediction (where TMPGEnc in CQ-Mode fails).
jsoto