ciné capture

[megalith6]

hi,

newbie ric - pullin' hair out over ciné transfer [lol]

can anybody tell me, please -

to minimalise 'flicker' in dv camcorder capture, is it best to use

i) a three shutter blade projector for 18fps

ii) a two shutter blade projector for 24fps


the former requiring a manual setting of 16 2/3fps, and the latter 25fps on a variable speed projector?

thanks,

ric

[rfmmars]

hi,

newbie ric - pullin' hair out over ciné transfer [lol]

can anybody tell me, please -

to minimalise 'flicker' in dv camcorder capture, is it best to use

i) a three shutter blade projector for 18fps

ii) a two shutter blade projector for 24fps


the former requiring a manual setting of 16 2/3fps, and the latter 25fps on a variable speed projector?

thanks,

ric

It really doesn't matter if it is a 2,3,4, or 5 blade projector as long as it has a speed control. Most DV camcorders are not suited for cine capture. I use Sony Block EVI series cameras. I capture PAL and convert to NTSC for final product. You can capture NTSC if you wish, just the project speed is changed. Either way there isn't even a hint of flicker.

Richard
photorecall.net

[jggimi]

Moving to DV forum....

[megalith6]

Richard wrote:

"It really doesn't matter if it is a 2,3,4, or 5 blade projector as long as it has a speed control. Most DV camcorders are not suited for cine capture. I use Sony Block EVI series cameras. I capture PAL and convert to NTSC for final product. You can capture NTSC if you wish, just the project speed is changed. Either way there isn't even a hint of flicker."

uh, Sony Block EVI - what is that thing? what can it do - why do you prefer it to the Sony/Canon 'professional' type dv camcorders, please?

http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/SOPD170PAL.JPG

is there anything intrinsic to the EVI series which gets round flicker - i have a variable speed projector but whatever speed i tune my film to, my modest little Canon MV830i still picks up flicker/scroll effects?

my goodness - it looks like a scaled-down version of the Hubble Telescope - i think i like it!

http://www.ccds.shopeio.com/inventory/details.asp?id=643&cat=CCDs&sub=

bests,

ric

[rfmmars]

Richard wrote:

"It really doesn't matter if it is a 2,3,4, or 5 blade projector as long as it has a speed control. Most DV camcorders are not suited for cine capture. I use Sony Block EVI series cameras. I capture PAL and convert to NTSC for final product. You can capture NTSC if you wish, just the project speed is changed. Either way there isn't even a hint of flicker."

uh, Sony Block EVI - what is that thing? what can it do - why do you prefer it to the Sony/Canon 'professional' type dv camcorders, please?

http://www.adorama.com/images/Product/SOPD170PAL.JPG

is there anything intrinsic to the EVI series which gets round flicker - i have a variable speed projector but whatever speed i tune my film to, my modest little Canon MV830i still picks up flicker/scroll effects?

my goodness - it looks like a scaled-down version of the Hubble Telescope - i think i like it!

http://www.ccds.shopeio.com/inventory/details.asp?id=643&cat=CCDs&sub=

bests,

ric

These camera are at various price points ranging uo to $3500.00 at the dealership. However super bargins can be found on E-bay. One chip or three chip pickups, resolution from 470-800 lines, with RGB out or S-Video. Yes they are better than DV-Pro and they are very small in size, they will fit into the palm of your hand. You are not paying for fluff, you get excellent imaging.
You turn off all the auto go manual. I just bought a used Sony 3 CCD like new for $40.00 US less lens. They can be set up by RS 232C conection to a PC for control. Never a hint of flicker.

Richard

[megalith6]

Richard wrote:

These camera are at various price points ranging uo to $3500.00 at the dealership. However super bargins can be found on E-bay. One chip or three chip pickups, resolution from 470-800 lines, with RGB out or S-Video. Yes they are better than DV-Pro and they are very small in size, they will fit into the palm of your hand. You are not paying for fluff, you get excellent imaging.
You turn off all the auto go manual. I just bought a used Sony 3 CCD like new for $40.00 US less lens. They can be set up by RS 232C conection to a PC for control. Never a hint of flicker.

- certainly something to look into!

:thanks:

ric