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SeeMoreDigital
14th January 2006, 21:47
As some of you may already know, XviD's MPEG-4 SP/ASP direct-show decoder offers the following "Colour Output" options: -

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/3777/xvidsettings2wn.png

..... Is this the sort of control flexibility you guys would like to see in CoreAVC?


Cheers

3ngel
14th January 2006, 21:49
@SeeMoreDigital
Exactly, with a very good SpaceColor conversion routine (witout wich is not topnotch quality).

SeeMoreDigital
15th January 2006, 17:53
I was under the impression the MPEG-2 discussion was born out of people attempting to play MPEG-4 AVC within .TS.... which will soon become kinda crucial to us European HDTV voyeurs ;)


Anyway, going back to the "decoder settings" issue. I could not stop myself, so here's a starting point for a GUI: -

http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/2461/proposedcoreavcdsdecgui2rg.png


Cheers

videomixer9
15th January 2006, 17:56
the topic clearly says "AVC Test Codec" and not "TCPMP is mature now" ...

lol @ SeeMoreDigital ... I never saw someone actually making a dialog to show it as proposal ...

Sirber
15th January 2006, 18:18
@SeeMoreDigital

the blank area could be some statistics :) like input FPS, current quant, etc

3ngel
15th January 2006, 18:24
@ SeeMoreDigital
Wow, i like your proposal, simple and effective :)

@Sirber
I agree. Some parameters i think are of interest:

Resolution : xxx x xxx (ex. 640 x 480)
FPS : xx.xxx fps (ex. 23.976)
Colorspace : xxxx yy bits (ex. RGB32 32 bits or ex. YUY2 16 bits)

Isochroma
15th January 2006, 19:04
Excellent Proposal! That window looks pretty good to me, and yes I also agree that the blank box could be used for output stats. Hope this gets implemented =))

thuan
16th January 2006, 00:24
Aspect ratio in the blank box is also needed.

SeeMoreDigital
16th January 2006, 00:46
Aspect ratio in the blank box is also needed.To offer what exactly?

EDIT: It sounds like you guys will require a slightly "taller" GUI: -

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3968/coreavcdsdecguib0er.png


Cheers

BlindWanderer
16th January 2006, 01:47
SeeMoreDigital: That gui looks good.
IMHO the File Information area should be a multi line text box or table.
Have to be able select and copy data from it.

wiak
16th January 2006, 08:00
To offer what exactly?

EDIT: It sounds like you guys will require a slightly "taller" GUI: -

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3968/coreavcdsdecguib0er.png


Cheers
hey and a little Aspect ratio override! option :)
like say 16:9 when its 4:3 and etc

SeeMoreDigital
16th January 2006, 10:11
hey and a little Aspect ratio override! option :)
like say 16:9 when its 4:3 and etcPersonally speaking, I've never liked the idea of "the decoder" offering "manual" AR adjustment. I've always been of the opinion that MPEG-4 video decoders should be devoid of such constraints, and be allowed to function freely, in much the same way MPEG-2 decoders are allowed to.

Besides.... most good software media players already offer "manual AR adjustment" anyway ;)


Cheers

SeeMoreDigital
16th January 2006, 16:37
SeeMoreDigital: That gui looks good.
IMHO the File Information area should be a multi line text box or table.
Have to be able select and copy data from it.Yep, I like that idea...

Technical issues aside, I guess there's no real limit to the type of "file information" that can be listed. For instance, this is what Neuron2's excellent DGIndex application can offer for MPEG-1 and 2 files: -

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5788/dgindexinfopanel2mv.png


Something tells me that, all this lot wont fit into my proposed GUI design :(


Cheers

3ngel
16th January 2006, 16:42
@SeeMoreDigital
I think the better would be to do another separate TAB named "Informations", containing all the types of informations about the video.
So we have three TAB : "Options" containing the colorspace forcing, "Informations" containing all the statistic, and "About" containing the about :).

SeeMoreDigital
16th January 2006, 17:04
@SeeMoreDigital
I think the better would be to do another separate TAB named "Informations", containing all the types of informations about the video.
So we have three TAB : "Options" containing the colorspace forcing, "Informations" containing all the statistic, and "About" containing the about :).Agreed

It just goes to show what can be listed.... Maybe there could be a way to display the "frame (ie: I, P, B, S and N VOP) types" in real-time too!


Cheers

bond
16th January 2006, 17:09
guys, you really amuse me ;)

SeeMoreDigital
16th January 2006, 17:30
guys, you really amuse me ;)Nothing wrong with good 'ol fashioned brain-storming - oh... and dreaming. You never know what may come from it ;)


Enjoy

SeeMoreDigital
19th January 2006, 23:46
Thanks for splitting and moving this post to a new thread Bond ;)

3ngel
21st January 2006, 12:52
Any news from the filter?
I'm waiting impatiently for the RGB32 support :)

CEC
21st January 2006, 17:32
A CPU usage graph can be really helpfull!!!:cool:

SeeMoreDigital
21st January 2006, 18:22
I got as far as this design: -

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2970/proposedcoreavcguif3em.png

I guess there's room for a CPU graph ;)


heers

Doom9
21st January 2006, 18:31
and while we're at it, why should't it brew your coffe as well? Or in my case get me a 0.5l glass of Ice Tea since I don't drink coffee. Come on... Here comes somebody creating only the best AVC decoder filter out there and the response is "gimme this gimme that gimme everything". I don't think I'd be the only one not to like that.

3ngel
21st January 2006, 18:47
@Doom9
I don't understand at all this acrimony against a visual representation of what could be a good filter.
These are ideas, desires, and proposal that eventually Toff could even consider interesting to develop. Many people giving ideas are always better than one.
I repeat, i dont' understand your point at all :confused:

EDIT : Oh obviously, great work Toff until now! :cool:

SeeMoreDigital
21st January 2006, 19:10
Okay... I've changed the thread title, as to not offend the CoreAVC developement team.


Cheers

bond
21st January 2006, 19:16
actually as coreavc is going to go commercial, things change a little bit as i dont see a problem in extensively bugging the devs with feature (or gui) requests in this case anymore ;)

SeeMoreDigital
21st January 2006, 19:25
actually as coreavc is going to go commercial, things change a little bit as i dont see a problem in extensively bugging the devs with feature (or gui) requests in this case anymore ;)Bummer!

It would be nice if the AR signalling issue was sorted prior to going commercial :D

Suchy
21st January 2006, 19:37
I got as far as this design: -

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2970/proposedcoreavcguif3em.png

I guess there's room for a CPU graph ;)


heers
XviD would have decoder Dialogbox like this too.

BetaBoy
21st January 2006, 21:08
D9... I actually dont mind SMD's suggestions (not sure about Toff though ;-)... and once we do the GUI for the DS filter... we can match the look for it in TCPMP as well as the .PLG's can have classes which can have properties... all we need to do is add the right click option which will be done for v1.0.