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RaistlinMajere
31st January 2006, 19:16
@ samuelal about his screenshot above

Can I just point out that your screenshot shows the first segment of a movie which quite often have blank sequences and rarely have any complex action scenes. This obviously gives a far faster encode than you'd expect.

When I used to use tmpgenc I never used to take notice of the estimated encode time until It had got into encoding the main part of the film.

As I said before, without putting some constants in . ie same source, comparing is pointless.

MedicineMan
1st February 2006, 11:42
Something must be very wrong in my setup.

I'm using an Atlhon X2 3800; Abit SLI MB; 1Gb RAM; source and work folder in diferent hard-drives; CCE 2.70 (tried 2.67 and 2.50 also); avisynth 2.56; NAN DGDecode; DVD-RB 1.04.

The movie I'm encoding has a reduction rate of about 65%.

And my speed is about 1.5-1.6.


Really don't know what I can do. I've been folowing this thread (and the DVD-RB thread) since the beginning. Don't know if I did something wrong. My previous setup (only different MB with the same chipset and an Athlon 64 3500) was significantly faster.


Hope some of you can help.




Sincerely


MM

jdobbs
1st February 2006, 12:55
You definitely need to upgrade to the latest version. There have been four releases since v1.04. There is definitely something wrong. With that system you should be seeing speeds in the 4x range.

You don't have some other application running in the background do you (like the SETI project)? I've seen that slow systems down before.

RaistlinMajere
1st February 2006, 19:47
Something must be very wrong in my setup.

I'm using an Atlhon X2 3800; Abit SLI MB; 1Gb RAM; source and work folder in diferent hard-drives; CCE 2.70 (tried 2.67 and 2.50 also); avisynth 2.56; NAN DGDecode; DVD-RB 1.04.

The movie I'm encoding has a reduction rate of about 65%.

And my speed is about 1.5-1.6.


Really don't know what I can do. I've been folowing this thread (and the DVD-RB thread) since the beginning. Don't know if I did something wrong. My previous setup (only different MB with the same chipset and an Athlon 64 3500) was significantly faster.


Hope some of you can help.




Sincerely


MM

The only common complaint with systems that seems to rob all cpu power is when hard drives revert to pio mode. Go to device manager and check to make sure all your ide channels are in the highesst UDMA mode you can select. If your hard drives are serial drives then i am not sure what it could be, check that cce is getting as much of the cpu as it can using the Task Manager

TotalHavoc
1st February 2006, 19:53
on my old P4 3.0 O/Ced to 3.5 with a gig of ram I averaged 3-3.4. On my new AMD X2 4400+ (2.2 GHz per core) O/Ced to 2.65 GHz per core I get 5.9-6.2. This is on CCE 2.67

blueboyec
1st February 2006, 22:14
Have been using CCE 2.67v (2.4 P4 with .75 gig memo), would there be much of a benefit in upgrading CCE to 2.70.2.4v?

jdobbs,

What version of CCE do you do most of your testing with?

Thanks in advance

jdobbs
1st February 2006, 22:40
I do most of my testing with CCE Basic v2.70.1.8.

MedicineMan
3rd February 2006, 11:18
Thank you for your help.


I still haven't found the reason for the low encoding speed in CCE. At least I found it wasn't a fault in DVD-RB. I encoded a AVI to DVD, and the CCE speed was about 1.1 (I know that there were some avisynth filters in the process, for the resolution conversion).

I checked my hard drives (SATA); defragmented again; checked free space. Found no way to increase the speed.

Going to read the CCE forums to find some help.



Thank you for your time




MM

jdobbs
3rd February 2006, 13:54
Remember also, that the size and type of the AVI can make a huge difference. For example, if I encode a segmented AVI file that contains DV content - my encode speeds are about half what they would be if reading from a DVD via DGDECODE.

Boulder
3rd February 2006, 14:02
@MedicineMan: could you check the CPU usage while encoding and report what it says. Did you do a fresh reinstall of the OS when you upgraded your system?

MedicineMan
3rd February 2006, 14:49
Yes, I did a clean install when i changed my MB and CPU.

I understand that the clock-rate of my new CPU is lower than my previous one (Athlon 64 3500). And i was hoping that the speed would be about the same. I was more or less satisfied until i began following this thread, and seeing the encoding speeds you were getting.

I've tried also CCE 2.50 and 2.67. The speed is about the same. And in Win XP task manager, the performance is above 70 or 80% in both cores. Sorry i can't be more specific about this at this moment. I'll check that.

Maybe i should try a simple encoding, with only CCE. Maybe I could edit the ECL files, take out all except those lines needed to do the encoding, and report back the speed. Trying to isolate the problem. I understand that the result won't (probably) be usable by DVD-RB. But doesn't matter now. I just want to understand what's happening. What do you think about it?


Maybe there's a difference in compression. The DVD I'm using as a test right now needs to be compressed to about 65%. It's a little more than the usual. But is the compression rate so influential in CCE speed?

I'm not at home right now, and so can't be more specific about this. I'll get back with more information as soon as I can. At least I know that the problem lies only in CCE (ok, DGdecode and Avisynth may also be factors here).



Sincerely



MM

Amnon82
3rd February 2006, 16:52
AMD Athlon 3500+, NF4SLI, 1G 400 DDR >> 2.31x