oluv
4th January 2006, 00:26
i just bought a new dvd-player "pioneer dv-380". i bought it because it was claimed to have one of the best error-corrections available at this price. my former dvd-player cyberhome ch-dvd 465 had a totally crappy error-correction and played even some original dvds jerky.
i compared the image-quality of both. i have a 50inch hdtv rear-projection tv set, so i can see most of the differences really well. i use YUV progressive to get the best possible quality out of them, the cables are about 1,5meters long.
the first thing that i noticed was the difference in sharpness. the cyberhome-image was much softer. the pioneer one was sharper but it delivered some jaggy edges and with fine patterns there was some flickering too.
i got surprised, because both players were connected with progressive output, so there shouldn't be any deinterlacing problem. but maybe i am missunderstanding something. why does a progressive dvd-movie have to be deinterlaced? or why this difference between both players?
then during playing around with media player classic i tried the settings for mpeg deinterlacing, and "weave" provided the best and sharpest result without too many artifacts. blend was much softer and bob was the worst.
when directly comparing these to my dvd-players it seems that pioneer uses a deinterlacer which is similar to "weave" and cyberhome a similar one to "blend". but the pioneer one doesn't work that clean as "weave", because directly comparing both, the pioneer-image is flickering a bit more.
i would like to know if the image quality would be better if i bought a player with internal scaler and hdmi-output? i was thinking of the samsung dvd-hd 850. does everything depend on the deinterlacer or what are the other factors? what difference does it make if the image is scaled in the tv-set or already scaled within the dvd-player?
i am sorry if i am asking stupid questions, but now i am unsure if i should keep the pioneer player or try the more expensive samsung.
thanks for any comment!
ps, for comparison i took some shots to demonstrate the differences in quality. in still scenes and well mastered dvds the flimmering edges are hardly a problem with the pioneer player, but you gain lot of sharpness and small details, see here:
pioneer:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3104/pioneer33lv.jpg
cyberhome:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8816/cyberhome30nx.jpg
on the other hand this is a shot from "deliverance", which is mastered quite badly and with lots of movement you can see serious step-artefacts and flimmering, although the pioneer-image still has more detail.
pioneer:
http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/1992/pioneer10tn.jpg
cyberhome:
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/9370/cyberhome10vt.jpg
i compared the image-quality of both. i have a 50inch hdtv rear-projection tv set, so i can see most of the differences really well. i use YUV progressive to get the best possible quality out of them, the cables are about 1,5meters long.
the first thing that i noticed was the difference in sharpness. the cyberhome-image was much softer. the pioneer one was sharper but it delivered some jaggy edges and with fine patterns there was some flickering too.
i got surprised, because both players were connected with progressive output, so there shouldn't be any deinterlacing problem. but maybe i am missunderstanding something. why does a progressive dvd-movie have to be deinterlaced? or why this difference between both players?
then during playing around with media player classic i tried the settings for mpeg deinterlacing, and "weave" provided the best and sharpest result without too many artifacts. blend was much softer and bob was the worst.
when directly comparing these to my dvd-players it seems that pioneer uses a deinterlacer which is similar to "weave" and cyberhome a similar one to "blend". but the pioneer one doesn't work that clean as "weave", because directly comparing both, the pioneer-image is flickering a bit more.
i would like to know if the image quality would be better if i bought a player with internal scaler and hdmi-output? i was thinking of the samsung dvd-hd 850. does everything depend on the deinterlacer or what are the other factors? what difference does it make if the image is scaled in the tv-set or already scaled within the dvd-player?
i am sorry if i am asking stupid questions, but now i am unsure if i should keep the pioneer player or try the more expensive samsung.
thanks for any comment!
ps, for comparison i took some shots to demonstrate the differences in quality. in still scenes and well mastered dvds the flimmering edges are hardly a problem with the pioneer player, but you gain lot of sharpness and small details, see here:
pioneer:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3104/pioneer33lv.jpg
cyberhome:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8816/cyberhome30nx.jpg
on the other hand this is a shot from "deliverance", which is mastered quite badly and with lots of movement you can see serious step-artefacts and flimmering, although the pioneer-image still has more detail.
pioneer:
http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/1992/pioneer10tn.jpg
cyberhome:
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/9370/cyberhome10vt.jpg