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bilc
27th December 2005, 18:40
Can someone please explain why certain backuped discs play perfect on two different DVD drives in the computer and when played on stand alone players (Initial portable 1731 and Pana DMR-E75) they freeze up? Same disc media all backed up at 4X using Nero 6.6.0.6 all at 90 or100% compression. Problem seems to be about 3/4 the way through film. Two film companies are S--Y and two are F-X. all are new releases. Unable to find any info on this...
Thanks
bilc
niann
28th December 2005, 20:59
Sounds like player/media compatability issues. Go through the compatability listings at http://www.videohelp.com to make sure you are using good media.
Cheers!
byb3
29th December 2005, 05:07
CD/DVD Drives are much better at error correction and simply have more power in reading the CDs and DVDs. So a DVD that is read perfectly by your PC DVD drive may appear scratched to your standalone.
Definitely media issues, try writing at 1x to see if that fixes the issue on your current media.
lckeys
30th December 2005, 15:32
What brand media are you using? What's the media code? Is it +R or -R.
Looking at the answers to these questions may give you your solution.
Obviously, your standalone players will read DVDR's; otherwise, it would give you a "no disc" or "bad disk" error. I would recommend +R media, preferrably Taiyo Yuden.
bilc
30th December 2005, 23:59
In answer to your questions, I am using Maxell and Verbatim - R discs. I started to analyze the problems and came to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the stick-on labels I am using ( Memorex ). So to confirm my theory I put each disc through DVDD in ISO mode and made another copy of each film but this time with no label. Guess what... discs all played perfect on both machines and in the PC. So my conclusion is that somehow the labels are causing an unbalance effect on the disc after an hour or so of playing. I even went so far as to remove a label from one disc and cleaning all residue and it played perfect. I went looking in the forum and there are many posts about labels and their effect. I must do some more research, but for a while I will not be putting labels on any new backups.
bilc
niann
4th January 2006, 23:20
Yup, Labels can throw off the balence of the disk, they are bad news. Stick with a nice felt tip sharpie. :)
Cheers!
CWR03
5th January 2006, 06:01
Yup, Labels can throw off the balence of the disk, they are bad news. Stick with a nice felt tip sharpie. :)Actually it's not the balance, it's a problem with the disk warping from the label shrinking and pulling it. I've been sent some DVD's of home movies from family where they'd used an address label on the diskwhich surely thows it out of balance, and it played perfectly.
Here's how you can tell: take two CD's or DVD's, either blank or "production," and stack them together with the labels on the outside. If you hold them together by one edge, the other edge will still be touching. Now take two disks with full labels and hold them together the same way. You'll see a gap on the other side. I've had a 3 millimeter gap on one pair, way beyond the read tolerance.
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