Best CPU Question

[bupkus]

Didn't know which forum to post this so here it is.

My brother is doing a lot of backups lately. I just taught him how to do backups and he has a rather extensive DVD collection.
But, to the question. I built a pc for him a while back, a Celeron D 320 with an ECS PT800CE-A and I'm wondering if I overclocked this from 2.4GHz to 3.6 (assuming stability) would it make an awesome ripping/encoding/burning machine. :thanks:

[ammck55]

We try to stay away from "best" discussions, there's too much room for opinions to be strongly stated. (Look to the Forum Rules at the top of this page.) That said, I'll move this over to the Hardware Forum, the guys over there eat stuff like this up. ;)

ammck55

[CWR03]

The only way to find out would be to do some tests, and in order to determine how much overclocking helps you'd want to run the same project twice. The speed of the processor is only one of many determining factors in such an endeavor.

If you expect a Celeron to perform at such an overclock setting, you'd be wise to cool it well.

[Guest]

Please edit your title and post to comply with forum rule 12: do not ask what's best. Thank you.

[setarip_old]

@bupkus

Hi!

I can only tell you that there have been many postings at other forums indicating that programs like DVD Shrink did not function properly on overclocked systems - and once overclocking was eliminated, once again performed properly.

BTW, what does your question have to do with "best CPU"?

[niann]

From Intel...

Celeron D
The Intel Celeron D processor family expands Intels processor family into the value-priced PC market segment. Celeron D processors provide the value that offers the customer the capability to affordably get onto the Internet, and use educational programs, home-office software, and productivity applications. All of the Celeron D processors include an integrated L2 cache, and are built on Intels advanced CMOS process technology. The Celeron D processor is backed by over 30 years of Intel experience in manufacturing high-quality, reliable microprocessors.

Pentium D
Whether performing video editing, playing graphic intensive games or running multiple background tasks simultaneously, users today have high expectations for their PC performance with little tolerance for degradation in experience. For people who run multiple demanding applications simultaneously, the Intel® Pentium® D processor is Intel's preferred desktop processor. Because it is powered by two execution cores in one processor it offers exceptional functionality and performance so consumers get the most productivity and enjoyment from their PCs when one or more people are running multiple applications at the same time.

Pentium 4
The Intel Pentium 4 processor supporting Hyper-Threading Technology, Intels most advanced, most powerful processor for desktop PCs and entry-level workstations, is based on Intel NetBurst microarchitecture. The Pentium 4 processor is designed to deliver performance across applications and usages where end-users can truly appreciate and experience the performance. These applications include Internet audio and streaming video, image processing, video content creation, speech, 3D, CAD, games, multimedia, and multitasking user environments. With Hyper-Threading Technology (HT Technology), desktop users can experience greater system responsiveness and performance when multitasking. At home, users can encode audio and video at the same time or run a virus scan in the background without diminishing performance on their favorite game. In the office, HT Technology enables IT managers to deploy PC services such as encryption, compression or backup technologies while minimizing the impact on PC user productivity.

So, you can draw your own conclusions from that, I don't want to get in a "best" argument. :)

Cheers!

[spolja]

It's not wise to overclock CPU on ECS motherboards (they usually don't have good voltage regulators).

[spuddog]

I seriously doubt that you will be able to over-clock that far, I have the same cpu on an Asus board and can only go about 15% over.

[leadman584]

Best, and Celeron, do not belong in the same sentence, post, thread, or consideration. Celeron is designed for E-Machines. The 400MHz FSB, single channel ops comes immediately to mind. This is below the specs for the ancient P4A chips, that ran 533MHz FSB. You would need to overclock that chip 33%, just to reach the lofty 533MHz FSB plateau. As previously stated, your MB is unlikely capable of handling this overclock, without more extreme cooling solutions. Watercooling, or phase cooling. And yes, a great many others factors come into play. MB chipset, and drivers. RAM quality, and the luck of the draw, in terms of overclockability.

You would be better served going to a P4 478 board, and chip, or an inexpensive A64 set up. It's likely either will use the current RAM, and all other components.

My encoding Rig runs an X2 4800+@2.7GHz. My phase cooled P4@4.32GHz, can't touch the raw horsepower of an X2. I'm just letting you know. I have a bit of overclocking experience, disappointment, and failure. It's a crap shoot. RAM, MB, and chips can all let you down.

[DVD_GR]

well it would be difficult to oc that rig,maybe we could recommend something to improve performace,its tough with that kind of mobo.on the other hand you could make some serious modding to the rig!!

[ronnylov]

I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ dual core overclocked from 2,0 GHz to 2,4 GHz on a very cheap Asrock s939 Dual SATA 2 motherboard and it runs without any problems, also DVDShrink. If programs fails at overclocking then you overclock too much. I am happy with the performance boost when going from a single core AMD64 3400+ (I changed both CPU and motherboard). DVDShrink takes advantage of dual core CPU.

[DVD_GR]

I dont believe that dvdshrink is multithreaded aplication....but amd's architecture helps alot.

[ronnylov]

I think DVDShrink really is multithreaded because I get full CPU load on both cores when shrinking. Single threaded applications don't load both cores to full load.

[setarip_old]

This thread, including posts by the author of DVD Shrink at another forum might be of interest:

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=143298#post143298

[DVD_GR]

the processing threads are seperate thing from the ability of load balancing between the 2 cpus.