The Island anyone having problems

[dwenglis]

anyone having trouble buring The Island. I copied it to the harddrive with no trouble with DVD Decrypter, but the burn kept encountering errors with noise or some such thing. wouldn't even get a few seconds into the burn? any ideas? I know with out the exact error message this post is a little useless. I will check and post the exact error message. just wanted to check to see if anyone else is having problems.

[blutach]

I am told this title has only CSS encryption and can be easily decrypted by DVD Decrypter. So, you may just have a bad disk. Take it back for a replacement.

Regards

[setarip_old]

@dwenglis

Hi!
I copied it to the harddrive with no trouble with DVD Decrypter
Does the harddrive copy PLAY properly, using a software DVD player (e.g. WinDVD, PowerDVD, VLC, etc.) to "PLAY AS DVD" (NOT as individual .VOBs)?

If it does, then it would seem your problem is strictly burned media-related (poor media, too high a burn speed, dirty burner, dirty player, etc.)...

Please post the log from whatever program you used to burn.

[HKT3020_1]

You can always try to run the decrypted files with PgcEdit and make sure they are as they should be. :)

[setarip_old]

Now that I've purchased it, I can tell you that the Region 1 version of "The Island" contains no newer copy protection. I successfully ripped it using DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 - and compressed it with DVD2One, and successfully burned using NERO. As an experiment, I successfully repeated the procedure using DVD Shrink, as well as DVD95Copy (DVD95Copy was used for ripping, compressing and burning)

[dwenglis]

I was sucessful with a another disc. blutach was right I had a bad disc. I am susprised the Verbatim DVD+R DL's I have been using have been flawless up till now. Thanks for the suggestions.

[setarip_old]

Glad to hear you have now been successful! ("blutach" was referring to the purchased, original, commercial DVD, not your burnable media)

[battscrew]

Just a side note the Canadian version only has dd2.0 and the french is dd5.1

[setarip_old]

@battscrew

That's really interesting. The U.S. Region 1 version that I purchased has only English 5.1 audio (No other languages at all). I guess they made a "Quebecois" version...

[dwenglis]

well I might have spoke too soon. My copy gets buggy around chapter 14. real pixilated and jumpy. continues on to chapter 15 and I haven't checked past.

[setarip_old]

Then I'd ask you again, does the harddrive copy PLAY properly, using a software DVD player (e.g. WinDVD, PowerDVD, VLC, etc.) to "PLAY AS DVD" (NOT as individual .VOBs)?

Also, if the hard drive copy does play properly, try burning at a lower speed...

[blutach]

What did you burn it with? If Ner0, please attach a log. It is in C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log (if you have Ner0 7 it's in C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero7\Core\NeroHistory.log)

Or if DVD Decrypter, please attach your DVD Decrypter burn log.

Test your burn - see here (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47762).

Also, read this (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44912) about your bad playback.

MODS: Maybe this threads belongs in DVD Burning forum?

Regards

[royer_50]

I actually ripped this with DVDDecrypter and split this movie with DVDFab on two Sony 4.5s then burned with Nero 6. I watched it last night and it had no pixelation or other problems at all. I was going to go DL, however, I was out of them.

[dwenglis]

well I burn with DVDdecrypter. So I don't have a log. I also set it to delete the image when its done burning so I can't run it off the hard drive either. Now the only time I have tried burning at a lower speed I couldn't play the disc. I have had the best luck with the program burning at max. I may try a lower speed next time to make sure it wasn't just a bad disc.

[setarip_old]

well I burn with DVDdecrypter. So I don't have a log.
Before you start ripping the DVD, from the "View" dropdown menu, click on "Log" to display the log window. After the rip is complete, in the "Log" window, from the "File" dropdown menu, select "Save as" to save the log...

[blutach]

The log should still be saved in your DVD Decrypter install folder. Check it out :)

Regards

[WarDog]

This movie is rather large to shrink onto a DVD5 and you will have pixels problems if you don't use DVD-RB or spilt onto two DVD5's.

[candsh]

Ripping with DVDfabDecrypter, running thru vob blanker and DVD RB (movie/menus) produced an excellent result. CCE Basic (retail) and all default settings in Rebuilder

[kis2005]

I usually used DVD Decrypter or DVD Fab Decrypter, DVD Shrink (movie only), and Nero @ 4x onto Verbatim Movie Reels. I haven't had a problem with pixelation unless I use cheep discs. It really matters on the player and if it likes the discs you use.

[WarDog]

You can strip this movie to the bare bones and still have 6559mb to squeeze onto a DVD5 with shrink. I don't care what disks or player you have, you are going to have poor video quality and pixel problems.

[setarip_old]

@WarDog

Hi!

You've now made two posts to this thread, in both of which you state that there will be poor video quality and pixelization problems.

I can only tell you that I obtained VERY SATISFACTORY video quality and NO pixelization with each of the full disk copies I created using three compressing programs I used - DVD2One, DVD Shrink, and DVD95Copy...

[greentech1974]

I would have to agree with "setarip_old". I have found no pixelization issues with this video. The main thing, as far as the empty media goes, is find one disc that works well with your player, and stick with it. I prefer DVDShrink, and the only pixelization issues I come across, are with the menus or extra features. The movie content is fine.

[WarDog]

@WarDog

Hi!

You've now made two posts to this thread, in both of which you state that there will be poor video quality and pixelization problems.

I can only tell you that I obtained VERY SATISFACTORY video quality and NO pixelization with each of the full disk copies I created using three compressing programs I used - DVD2One, DVD Shrink, and DVD95Copy...
What are you watching your backup copy on, a 13" TV?

[blutach]

What's the final bitrate of the shrunk movie? Use IfoEdit's handy calculator to find out.

Regards

[WarDog]

I have both big screen plazma and lcd hdtv's. I wont even attempt to shrink 6559mb onto a DVD5. It's not hard to do the math, you are going to have poor playback video quality on these types of tv's. When I have a movie that run's under 70% like this one, I will use DVD-RB or split it two disks. In this case I used DVD-RB and I have an excellent backup copy. I figure most ppls who are into good backup quality are using high res tv's like myself, that's the only reason I even brought the issue up over poor playback quality.

[blutach]

I too use DVDRB and find that so long as the source material is OK (BR and quant-wise), the final encoded product is excellent.

Haven't got this DVD yet, so really can't comment on specifics.

Regards

[azraelle]

My two cents:
Using Phillips DVP 642/37 and 20" Panasonic TV (not quite in your "big screen plazma and lcd hdtv" quality ballpark--but then not anywhere near the price of them either!), I really cannot tell the difference between the 869 MB avi I managed to make using Gordian Knot (burned onto a DVD ISO), and the actual DVD original. Assuming DVD Rebuilder, or DVD Shrink for that matter, uses similar compression technology to make a much larger, comparitively speaking, DVD file, why would you expect pixellation problems? This does not compute.

[WarDog]

Buy a plazma and then it will compute!

[HardwareGeek]

Using Phillips DVP 642/37 and 20" Panasonic TV ..., I really cannot tell the difference between the 869 MB avi I managed to make using Gordian Knot (burned onto a DVD ISO), and the actual DVD original. ...

Your display is a bottleneck and camouflages artifacts caused by the compression in the source on a high resolution display. I do not have a hdtv either, but always feared that my "shrunk" dvds would display artifacts if output to a hdtv.

What WarDog says about poor video quality on hdtvs makes sense.

[captain_video]

I agree. Trying to squeeze too large of a movie file onto a single DVD-5 disc is just asking for trouble, even with DVD-RB. HDTV displays are far less forgiving of bad picture quality than standard def sets so it doesn't pay to cut corners. About the only thing I will shrink for archiving purposes are episodic TV discs, and even then I'd be more likely to reauthor the disc than try to shrink it too much.

FWIW, I ripped this movie using DVD Decryptor/AnyDVD and then split it to two discs with DVDFab. No problems that I can see but I haven't watched the DVD yet, just ran a spot check at each chapter.

[philco]

i found dvdshrink worked for me on the island. just copied the movie only and it fit on 1 "4.7" disk. and used good quality disks .

[gobama05]

I used DVDFab Decrypter on this, and it worked fine. Then DVD Rebuilder with Procoder at "Mastering Quality" and everything fit great onto a DVD-5 and the results were outstanding. Burned it onto a Prodisc S04 @8x. Works really good with no freezes or skips.