Rebuilder Pro Crashes Stand Alone Player

[jetsx23]

First time poster longtime reader. Hello to everyone.

I have been unable to use the professional version of rebuilder due to an issue I am having with two of my DVD players.

When using the freeware version (0.94) of rebuilder all my discs play great on all players in the house, But with the Pro version my discs would lockup two of my players and actually reboot them. These same two players play disc's made with version 0.94 flawlessly.

I use TY media. I also tried the Pro version of rebuilder with Pro-Disc, Verbatim and Ritek. All the different media's have the same problem with the Pro version of Rebuilder on these two units. So I know it is not a media issue.

The Two player types that are having the issue are a Denon 5900 and Onkyo DV-SP1000.

I have tried the Pro version rebuilder discs on my Panny S77 and they work fine. This would be ok but the Panny is not my main player.

This is my method for creating the discs in both versions.

0.94

1. Rip with DVD Decrypter
2. Reauthor in Shrink, so I can just do movie only with no compression.
3. Take the newly created shrink files into rebuilder.
4. Using CCE 2.7 and leaving all the default values in rebuilder.
5. Rebuilder completes and then burn the files with Nero.

Discs play great in all players.

DVD-RB Pro

1. Select Movie only in one click mode
2. Using CCE 2.7 and leaving all the default values in rebuilder.
3. Select create ISO image and burn using decrypter.
All of this works fine.

I take the disc to one of the players stated above and they just reboot after about 2 1/2 to 3 minutes into the disc.

I also tried using pro the the same way I would do a disc with 0.94 and the problem still is there.

I know there are alot of changes in the Pro version. Of course I would not know what was changed to cause my problems.

I really would like to use it because I like the batch function and the auto burn capabilities.

If anyone can help me out that would be great.

Thanks Again

[jdobbs]

What happens if it isn't done in Movie-Only mode? Does it play okay then?

[SpazzHH]

What version of Pro are you using and what type of installation method did you use?

[jetsx23]

I have tried all versions of pro. From 1 to 1.03. I have not tried the new one that Jdobbs sent me yet.

JDobbs I have not tried doing the full disc. If you want me to I will and report back my findings.

Thanks For the replies.

[jdobbs]

Yes, please. I'm trying to find out if this is related to the other thread you referenced in the mail you sent me.

[jptheripper]

also check the size of the iso. I had one iso that ended up being 4.9 gbs. it burnt without error, but of course, all the information was not there

[jetsx23]

JDobbs, I just completed a full disc rebuild with Rebulider Pro 1.04. The movie plays back with no issues. Everything worked as it should.

Since I never used 1.04 for movie-only mode I will give it a try and let you know how it goes. I will use the same movie and save all files for both rebuilds in case you would like to see anything.

[jetsx23]

@JDobbs,

I did the same movie in movie only mode. 3 minutes in and the movie crashed the player. I see you were chatting with Rayvt in the other thread and you are going to try something in the next version for this issue. Sounds great. Let me know if you want to see any files from the movie I just did.

Thanks for everything

[jetsx23]

@JDobbs,

I took the movie only files created with rebuilder and added the pre and post commands that Rayvt posted and the disc no longer crashes. Works fine. Just an FYI.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=103625

[jdobbs]

I've fixed it for v1.05. Incredible. Apparently someone has written some player firmware that requires an IFO command table, even if no commands exist.

[jptheripper]

amazing that you figured that out

[jdobbs]

Credit for that would go to rayvt... he did some testing and found it. I just shook my head in incredulity and added the code.

[rayvt]

Incredible. Apparently someone has written some player firmware that requires an IFO command table, even if no commands exist.

Mmmm, not so incredible. I've been programming and reading other people's code for 30 years. There have been many many times where a loop gets coded in such a way that the code breaks when the repeat count is zero. Both in code I've written and code that others have written. Even when you see the potential bug upon review, it's very tempting to say, "Well, that'll never happen." 'course it's worse when nobody spots the potential bug until the software gets released.

What is surprising to me is that so many players seem to have the same bug. It makes me suspect that the exact same code is in the firmware of a lot of different players. So are different DVD player companies all pirating the code, or is this just one code-base that is re-branded for each company? I suspect the latter.

[jdobbs]

You see that a lot. The chipset maker releases code with the chipset and then the OEM can modify it to match their final machine. A good example is the Zoran Vaddis 7 chipset that supports DivX and associated HDMI upscaler -- it is used in recent Samsung, Toshiba, LG, Cyberhome, and other units. If you look at their configuration menus you'll see almost the same menus only slightly modified.