error on DVD5 and other DVDs

[sh03z]

Hello. I just bought a couple movies and tried to back them up with DVD rebuilder. It says its' a DVD5 movie, and it doesn't need to be encoded. Other DVDs say the first stage (I forget what it's called) doesn't match with the rebuilding stage.

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[wmansir]

DVD Rebuilder is only needed when a movie is too big to fit on a DVD-R or DVD+R. Many movies already small enough to fit. If that's the case then you can just use DVD Decrypter in ISO->READ mode to copy it to your HD, then use ISO->WRITE mode to burn the disc.

I don't recall what the second error you mention is caused by. Your best be would be to write it down the next time it happens and then search the forum with the exact error messege.

[jptheripper]

remember you have to do a prepare everytime you do a disk. That is, if you use the same working folders, and switch the source, the rebuild will be available but is not appropriate.

When in doubt, just redo the prepare phase

[sh03z]

k, thanks for the input

[jdobbs]

It may be the ripper you're using causing the second problem. There are some strange things happening with certain titles when ripped with DVD Decrypter over AnyDVD.

[KSPSlice]

I have found that using anydvd with dvd decrypter has caused problems for me even with dvd decrypter not checking for protection and using the elby driver. I have started again to use dvd decrypter on its own. If it won't handle a disc then I use anydvd, dvdfab decrypter, or dvd decrypter in conjuction with tools like pgcedit, vobblanker, and fixvts (or vtsfix - i can't remember which is the correct name).

[jdobbs]

I've found something related to null records created in the AnyDVD/Decrypter combination that I've corrected for the next version.

[blutach]

It's FixVTS - and to rip ARccOS disks successfully see this method - How to backup ARccOS DVDs (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56831). Fully automated wizard takes you through all the steps. At the end, you have a disk that is fully compliant and is pre-ARccOS.

Loads into DVDRB - which is the best test for compliance :)

Regards

[KSPSlice]

It is that guide that I followed. It looks complicated but a bit of time and setup and it is pretty easy to use. I have also noticed problems in using DVDFab Decrytper and DVD Rebuilder. DVD Rebuilder on some discs that I had ripped with DVDFab Decrypter also failed but after using the guide it worked fine.

[jdobbs]

I've seen DVD Fab fail to rip... but I've never seen DVD Rebuilder fail on a successful DVD Fab rip. If you leave it alone, don't edit it, don't preprocess it -- just back it up, it pretty much works every time. The same is true for DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD. If it rips, it will back up -- as long as it isn't "monkeyed with".

All these tools that are available are very powerful -- but used improperly they are just as destructive as they are useful. I would please ask that people refrain from saying DVD Rebuilder has "failed" on a disc that has been (excuse the expression) "butchered"...

[KSPSlice]

In my case I did no pre-processing. I never do any pre-processing unless I have problems backing up the disc. Straight ripped the DVD with DVDFab Decrypter (the latest version available) and put the VIDEO_TS folder straight into DVD Rebuilder. If I remember correctly I received the no m2v file exists error. This was an ARccOS protected disc. I used the same VIDEO_TS folder ripped by DVDFab Decrypter and used the guide mentioned in this post. Then put the updated VIDEO_TS folder through DVD Rebuilder and it backed up fine. The movie was Stealth and I backed it up earlier this week.

[lantern]

I use AnyDVD to handle copy protection. I point DVD-RB at the dvd drive and let it run from there.

If you rip the disc with DVDD using the Arccos Plugin Wizard, you end up running FixVTS on it to repair the damage caused by Arccos and by Ripguard to the file structure.

How does DVD-RB handle the file structure straight off of the DVD? Can I improve my chance for a successful rebuild by using the Arccos Wizard/FixVTS?

I have most recently backed up The Brothers Grimm using my current method and am watching it now. It looks great, there doesn't seem to be any playback issues, and I haven't had any problems yet.

Thanks

[jdobbs]

DVD-RB has no inherent copy protection removal or avoidance mechanisms. It just performs binary reads from the files in the source directory.

I really don't think you need anything else if you are using AnyDVD or DVDFab. In fact, DVD Decrypter still works on the vast majority of discs.

[m.rup]

I've seen DVD Fab fail to rip... but I've never seen DVD Rebuilder fail on a successful DVD Fab rip.

I did. Occured with Catwoman and Polar Express (both RC2, CCE crashed while encoding extras ...seems to be no m2v file... and dropped frames of the main movie) both leaving them untouched and preprocessing with Shrink (there even are rumors at FAB forum that there would be an special structural copy protection on Polar Express). Then I ripped both films using DVDDecrypter and voila, no problems anymore. I think FAB Decrypter somtimes smashes dvd structure so badly that DVDRB has no chance to handle it.

[lantern]

Thanks jdobbs. I just wanted to make sure I did not need to rip to the HD and then run FixVTS to correct the problems caused by the copy protection.

[jdobbs]

One thing I thought I might mention... if you are using DVD-RB to read directly from the disc with AnyDVD, if will work fine.

But if you want to significantly improve the speed for encoding, I'd suggest you copy the files from the the disc onto your hard drive first, and then run DVD-RB against the copy on the hard drive. It will take about 10 minutes to copy and might cut an hour or more off the encode time.

Just a suggestion if you have the available disc space. If you're not concerned about the time... then working directly from the disc is great (via AnyDVD).

[lantern]

I usually just pop the DVD(s) in the drive(s) and start DVD-RB (batch mode). I then just let it run. I use the latest CCE Basic to re-encode. Yesterday I backed up 2 dvds in 4 hours. That seems to be about the same time that it takes when I rip to the HD then use DVD-RB.

I thought that I remember reading somewhere that this scenario was an ideal one. Maybe I am thinking that I read that you should rip to iso and mount the iso? It doesn't matter.

Found it in the installation, setup, and usage sticky.
USAGE:

1. The preferred method is to create an ISO image of the DVD and mount this as a Virtual Drive. With this method the VIDEO_TS directory on you Virtual Drive will be your SOURCE PATH.

Thanks again, and thanks for the great program!

[jdobbs]

Hmm... your drive must be very fast. That's certainly the easiest way. Maybe it's time I update my source drive!

[lantern]

I use an AOpen 1648 AAP. My Phase I times are approximately 7-8 minutes.