View Full Version : Totally delete VTS in PgcEdit?!?
r0lZ
25th February 2006, 11:17
Btw, you haven't said "yay" or "nay" to my request of the VTS Info screen. Will it get on your "dew" list? :)
The necessary info can already be found with the Calls Cross References function. Basically, you want the same output, but for a single VTS at a time, and stripped of the references from the VTS itself. Right? Seems feasible, but as I said, it's not really needed, since it is already possible to do it, with a little bit more work, though.
Anyway, I'll do it if I have some time...
voo_doo99
25th February 2006, 17:31
The necessary info can already be found with the Calls Cross References function. Basically, you want the same output, but for a single VTS at a time, and stripped of the references from the VTS itself. Right? Seems feasible, but as I said, it's not really needed, since it is already possible to do it, with a little bit more work, though.
Anyway, I'll do it if I have some time...
Cool :). It will be so much better when working with those 20+ VTS backup. :thanks:
LordHeinrich
26th February 2006, 02:51
@voo_doo99,
I am not too familiar with all the functions of PGCEdit. I have only been using it for a couple of months now. The program is much better for actual editing of IFOs than IFOEdit.
As for changing the number of titles on a DVD or the number of VTS, this can only be done in VIDEO_TS.IFO. I have not found a way to do this in PGCEdit. Changing the number of VTS and number of titles is almost a cosmetic fix. The only way I can see not making the changes to cause a problem would be if you manually try to access the removed titles using your DVD remote.
As for the Chapter displays, I am almost positive this is only a cosmetic fix. If not fixed, your DVD player will display Chapter 2 as chapter 1, chapter 3 as chapter 2 and so on... I have burned a few DVDs without making this fix and have noticed no problems with playback.
BTW, I am pretty sure that the identical mathod can be used on all 6 Star Wars DVDs. Also, the edited DVD will have a higher playback compatibility with older DVD players. The reason being that older players have a hard time with complex DVDs and by editing, you are making them simpler.
I have noticed this with my old Samsung DVD-611. It used to only play backups made on Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, but now it also plays Ritek R03 DVD+R, but only if I edit the DVD prior to making the backup.
voo_doo99
26th February 2006, 04:44
@voo_doo99,
I am not too familiar with all the functions of PGCEdit. I have only been using it for a couple of months now. The program is much better for actual editing of IFOs than IFOEdit.
No comparison for me, I simply can't edit VM commands without PgcEdit.
As for changing the number of titles on a DVD or the number of VTS, this can only be done in VIDEO_TS.IFO. I have not found a way to do this in PGCEdit. Changing the number of VTS and number of titles is almost a cosmetic fix. The only way I can see not making the changes to cause a problem would be if you manually try to access the removed titles using your DVD remote.
As for the Chapter displays, I am almost positive this is only a cosmetic fix. If not fixed, your DVD player will display Chapter 2 as chapter 1, chapter 3 as chapter 2 and so on... I have burned a few DVDs without making this fix and have noticed no problems with playback.
Thank you for the pointers.
BTW, I am pretty sure that the identical mathod can be used on all 6 Star Wars DVDs. Also, the edited DVD will have a higher playback compatibility with older DVD players. The reason being that older players have a hard time with complex DVDs and by editing, you are making them simpler.
I have noticed this with my old Samsung DVD-611. It used to only play backups made on Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, but now it also plays Ritek R03 DVD+R, but only if I edit the DVD prior to making the backup.
I share your opinion. I have a fussy old Audiovox portable that I use to qualify my backup. If it played there, it plays everywhere. :)
Your guides are superb tutorials. Hope you will continue to share your best guides with the forum. We had the distinguished 2COOL Guides for earlier time, but he rode into sunset a good while now [Happy Trails, 2C:):)L].
:thanks:
hardkorn
27th February 2006, 13:39
@LordHeinrich
Thanks for the guide you posted.It seems useful. I'll check it out. Thanks.
@r0lZ
I saw that you released a new Pgcedit beta version, but on doom9.org it's just a link for beta4. As I saw on the beta page the last beta is nr7.
OTHER: I'm trying to remove from several dvds the language selection menu that comes first, but I didn't succeed yet. Doing it so in Pgcedit and changing the first play pgc of the title menu in VMG(which is the language selection menu) to the root menu, cripples the dvd. The links to other titles makes this a hell of a job. :)
Of course there are a lot other vts references to other titles that I can't remove without making it unplayable.
I tried to create a new IFO's with Ifoedit, but the movie starts directly without the menu appearing.
Is there a way to resolve this? I'm sure there are other threads concerning this, but having alot of exams lately, can't afford looking more into this.
I think I have found a way to recognize dvd authoring software(we talked about it as you might remeber), studying vob and ifos. I'll post my finds the week to come, hopefully.
r0lZ
27th February 2006, 13:57
I saw that you released a new Pgcedit beta version, but on doom9.org it's just a link for beta4. As I saw on the beta page the last beta is nr7.
Yes, the latest beta is beta 7. You can download it here (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/beta/).
(You have to look in the main PgcEdit thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=100890) here at D9 to be notified of betas.)
OTHER: I'm trying to remove from several dvds the language selection menu that comes first, but I didn't succeed yet. Doing it so in Pgcedit and changing the first play pgc of the title menu in VMG(which is the language selection menu) to the root menu, cripples the dvd. The links to other titles makes this a hell of a job. :)
Of course there are a lot other vts references to other titles that I can't remove without making it unplayable.
I tried to create a new IFO's with Ifoedit, but the movie starts directly without the menu appearing.
Is there a way to resolve this? I'm sure there are other threads concerning this, but having alot of exams lately, can't afford looking more into this.You should use the "Jump to PGC upon DVD insert" function. It was designed to be compatible with all DVDs. However, this function is a bit more difficult to use than the other high-level functions. The method rely on the trace. First, you have to locate the right PGC (with video contents) you want to begin with. Then, set a pre/post breakpoint to this PGC. Then, start (or restart) the trace mode, and trace until you reach this PGC. Now, launch the Jump2PGC function. After this point, everything is automatic. Save and test.
I think I have found a way to recognize dvd authoring software(we talked about it as you might remeber), studying vob and ifos. I'll post my finds the week to come, hopefully.
Great! :)
r0lZ
27th February 2006, 14:07
Oh, forgot to say. It is also possible to bypass a menu PGC (with buttons) simply by using Kill Playback on this PGC. I have recently improved this function. Now, if the killed PGC has menu buttons, the menu buttons viewer is opened, and you can select the button you want to simulate. During playback, the menu will be hidden, but the navigation will continue normally, like if you activated the button.
Take care, however: if the same menu is called several times, it will always lead you to the same point. So, this function is suitable only to bypass a "first-time" menu, like a language selection menu, or to return to the main menu from a bonus menu.
hardkorn
3rd March 2006, 13:33
What command should I enter so it returns to the VTSM 1, LU1(en), 10 after the movie is over (which is the real menu)?. If I enter JumpSS-VTSM it jumps to the root menu of the current VTS which is a dummy.
r0lZ
3rd March 2006, 14:02
It is not possible to go to a specific PGC of a VTSM menu from the title domain, unless the menu PGC is a special entry PGC (Root, Subpic, Audio, Angle or Chapter menu.)
But you should be able to return to the real menu by jumping straight to the Root menu PGC, even if it's a dummy. Since this PGC is automatically called whenever you press the Root Menu button on the remote, it should lead you to the real menu anyway.
TAKE CARE: To jump to a menu PGC from a title, you must use a CallSS, not a JumpSS, which is illegal in this case! (JumpSS can be used in all domains except the title domain. CallSS can be used only in the title domain.)
If you are not sure which Jump or Call to use, use the last menu in the command editor, called "Jump and Call", and select the right starting and target points. The right command will be selected automatically for you.
Normally, you should leave the "return cell" parameter of the Call command to 1.
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