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retroborg
1st December 2005, 22:21
Doom for the Atari 2600!

Well, not quite but interesting read never the less...

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8691/2600DOOM.HTM

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8691/vcsdoom.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8691/vcsad.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8691/vcsscrn1.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/8691/vcsscrn2.jpg


By the way, anybody have the slightest idea what game is this picture from? It doesn't look anything like any other FPS I've seen before...

http://www.geocities.com/retroborg/unknown.png

CWR03
2nd December 2005, 06:12
I believe the pic is a mod of the original Half-Life called "Gunman Chronicles," but I'm not sure.

Sirber
2nd December 2005, 13:16
Hum... the shot seems too much to be in high Q graphics, not sure it's gunman

Gunman:
http://www.deafgamers.com/gunman1.jpg

retroborg
2nd December 2005, 13:25
Gunman?
This game looks cool?
When was it released & on what system?

Sirber
2nd December 2005, 13:46
around 2000, PC :)

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/370639.asp?q=gunman

Doobie
2nd December 2005, 18:58
The Atari 2600 can't even do a half-decent Pac-Man, let alone a FPS.

retroborg
2nd December 2005, 19:45
around 2000, PC :)

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/370639.asp?q=gunman

That looks like an interesting game.
Funny how I've never seen it before.
I see it uses an enhanced version of the Half Life 1 engine, but is the game any good gameplay & length wise?

CWR03
2nd December 2005, 21:17
I bought Gunman Chronicles because I liked Half-Life - I never went back and played it much because Half-Life² came out right after I'd bought it. It's interesting, a bit more complicated because the weapons have several firing modes and you have to keep track of which mode they're in, and each mode aims very differently. There's a lot of storyline stuff in the beginning as well as a long forced training.

retroborg
2nd December 2005, 22:27
The word “ATARI” has always been synonymous to real bad graphics in my mind ever since I was 7 years old. Back in 1986, when my mom brought me an Atari 2600 from one of her trips abroad.

Even for my tender young mind back then, I was like WTF?!
Especially, when I saw Yar’s Revenge & those horrible 4 colour palette games.
I had been spoiled watching Robotech on the TV and I had also seen the “big boys” play Rygar, Solar Warrior / Xain’d sleena & Konami’s classic shoot em up Scramble, at the local arcades, so least to say the Atari 2600 did not fascinate me at all.

I was happy when it got toasted to the fiery pits of console hell in a power surge back in early 1990. I got an 8-Bit Multi-region, Hong Kong NES soon after.

Sirber
2nd December 2005, 23:48
IIRC, Gunman Chronicles is a short game. Gameplay is fun and guns too.

I don't remember much more though... it was in space with monsters... ;)

setarip_old
3rd December 2005, 02:50
The word “ATARI” has always been synonymous to real bad graphics in my mind ever since I was 7 years old. Back in 1986, when my mom brought me an Atari 2600 from one of her trips abroad.
You have to keep things in perspective. Perhaps if you had seen the Atari VCS/2600 when it first came out (around the time you were born), you would have appreciated and yes, been "blown away" by its then-leading edge technology and 4 bit graphics.

Try to compare ANY machine's graphic capabilities of 1998 to those of ANY machine's now...

retroborg
3rd December 2005, 04:14
Well, not quite.
For example, the 8-Bit NES was released 6 full years before I bought it (late 1990), which at the time it was all ready showing it's age, since there were other far superior systems (NEC PCE, Genesis & the upcoming SNES), but it still amazed me, simply due to the fact that the graphics actually made sense and resembled something, rather than starring at some huge 4-bit pixels flashing on the screen like nonsense.

Surely it didn't have the 256 colours palette of the SNES, the sprite crunching capabilities of the all mighty NEOGEO, or the 2 teraflop Overall System Floating-Point Performance of the PS-3, but its graphics actually looked like something; where as the Atari 2600 simply didn't, even for back then.

The Soul Calibur version on the Dreamcast that was released in 1999 has arguably better level design than Soul Calibur II released on the PS-2, X-Box & GC 4 years later.
Ikaruga also for the Dreamcast, looks great when compared to some X-Box shooters.

Also, the graphics of Scud Race (1996!) on the SEGA Model 3 arcade hardware have still not been surprised on modern consoles.

Quite a few games on the PS-1 & Saturn still look amazing even for today’s standards. (Radiant Silvergun, Silhouette Mirage, etc…

setarip_old
3rd December 2005, 04:18
I guess you "just had to be there" to fully appreciate it. I know my son certainly did - and appreciated it even more when his father struggled to actually program it with "fetch" and "store" commands;>}

FredThompson
3rd December 2005, 04:53
Pfffff!!! You kids have it so good. I remember when we were happy, HAPPY, to have a Deathrace 2000 game at the roller rink.

Whiny spoiled brats....Where are my teeth?...Is it cold in here?

dragongodz
3rd December 2005, 05:42
Pfffff!!! You kids have it so good. I remember when we were happy, HAPPY, to have a Deathrace 2000 game at the roller rink.
HAHAHA how very true. i remember playing things like space invaders and asteroids etc arcade machines and thinking they were great. to then be able to play them at home was fantastic. :D

retroborg
3rd December 2005, 10:55
Well, I rememeber playing a simple card RPG game a friend had made him self, back in 1990!
That was a lot more fun than a lot of modern video game RPGs.

Chainmax
3rd December 2005, 14:00
The geriatricism is strong in this thread, lol :).

FredThompson
3rd December 2005, 19:57
I have a first edition Dungeons & Dragons box set. The miniatures-based books were first, though. ANyone remember the mimeographed fanzines for RPGs?

Joe Fenton
4th December 2005, 06:34
I had a pong console before I had an Atari 2600. The 2600 was a HUGE step up. :) The NES came out after the 2600, so it's only natural it'd have better graphics. That's the key advantage of coming out after the competition - improved specs.

DigitAl56K
4th December 2005, 09:04
By the way, anybody have the slightest idea what game is this picture from? It doesn't look anything like any other FPS I've seen before...

Maybe Alien Breed 3D II or Breathless on Amiga?

retroborg
4th December 2005, 13:31
Judging by the pixels (They're rectangular rather than the common square ones...) I would say it's a C64 hoax.

dragongodz
6th December 2005, 11:39
Maybe Alien Breed 3D II or Breathless on Amiga?
its not ab3d or breathless, though i did think of breathless when i saw it. there was another one that looked very like that but i cant think of what it was called. hey it has been a long time since i saw these games. ;)

a bit of gaming nostalgia from back in 1984 if anyone is interested
http://www.archive.org/details/Computer1984_4