View Full Version : What Brand of media do you use?
juliox
14th November 2005, 16:27
Well,
Ive being asking all around whats the vest media, and i just get links to different websites.... so ill change the question! what media do you use? Im using ridata g04s and they suck, royaly. im looking for another brand could you tell me which ones you use? thanks!
example:
I use DVD-R G04 from ridata, they are the best media out there ofr the price! i never had major problems with them! ( yea right.... )
:thanks:
CWR03
14th November 2005, 18:44
One of the reasons you get links is because "what's best" cannot be answered objectively, which is why it's stated in the forum rules that you not ask such a question. People are giving you good places to read factual data on media tests, as well as user opinions on the media, in order for you to extrapolate a good choice based on your hardware and usage.
example:
I use DVD-R G04 from ridata, they are the best media out there ofr the price! i never had major problems with them! ( yea right.... )
That was a rather useless thing to post - now are you saying it's good, affordable media, or were you being sarcastic? I'm assuming the latter. The least you could do if you expect good advice is to input some good data yourself, like the brand and model of your burner and what other media you've tried, as well as your experiences with it.
On to what I use: GQ brand from Fry's Electronics (also available from outpost.com), identified as SONY-D11-00, burned with a Pacific Digital 16X burner. I've burned hundreds of disks with no failures or coasters, and I'd recommend them for inexpensive media.
Most everyone says Verbatim, especially their dual-layer media, is the most reliable around.
LIGHTNING UK!
14th November 2005, 19:31
Personally, I've never had an issues with G04 discs! G05's yes, but G04's no.
Other than that, discs using Ricoh dyes or MMC dyes are generally considered pretty decent.
CDFreaks is a good place to check out for this kinda info as that's pretty much what they're geared towards - whereas Doom9 deals with processes of backing up / converting stuff.
Also dont forget about firmware updates for your drive - they fix problems!
juliox
20th November 2005, 03:06
! thanks im heading to cdfreaks, o yea the go4s are fine when burned at X4 even if they say X8 certified. is funny when i did x2 the dvd dint work ither, any way im heading to cdfreaks thanks for the info.
juliox
21st November 2005, 13:59
ok i found the best dvds, Taiyo Yuden's. so if any one is wondering what the best brand is out there ( by far imo) Taiyo Yuden's are the win! .006% errors. never got anything below a 99%
BSpielbauer
22nd November 2005, 00:05
ok i found the best dvds, Taiyo Yuden's. so if any one is wondering what the best brand is out there ( by far imo) Taiyo Yuden's are the win! .006% errors. never got anything below a 99%
Again, the word "best" is the "no-no" word. What might be the "best" for you could turn out to be the absolute worst for the person reading your post.
Just as an example, I have more than 400 DVD backups burned using Ritek GO4 discs, yet these are the exact same discs that the original poster has had nightmares over. My 400+ burns included no coasters, and all have been thoroughly tested, and none have ever failed to play, on any of the five DVD players in my home. Some are now 2 years old, and my failure rate to date has been 0%.
The original poster might have a burner that does not like the disc I claim to be the "best." He might have a player that does not like the disc i claim to be the "best." He may be in need of a firmware update. He might burn at 16X, while I only burned at 4X. He might multi-task and surf the net while burning, and I never did any multi-tasking. He might have a hard drive that is in bad need of de-fragging, while I have a dedicated hard drive that only is used for burning, it has 200Gig, and it gets defragged automatically once every four days. He may be burning in PIO mode, while I have all drives in DMA mode. He might be using Fat32 and I might be using NTFS. He might be using labels, and I might be using a Sharpie...
There are so many variables, that one can never say authoritatively that "brand X" is the best," or that "disc X is the best."
Period.
Now, having said that, I happen to be using (currently) Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 8X discs, and burning at 4X speed, on my Pioneer 8X burner. I also occasionally burn on an NEC 16X burner.
For dual layer blank media, I happen to be using Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4X, and I am burning at 2.4X. This is also on my Pioneer burner. Again, I also occasionally burn on an NEC 16X burner.
My failure rate with these has been as follows:
-On the Taiyo Yudens, no coasters, with more than 125 burns.
-Using the Verbatim dual layers, one coaster out of 44 burns, and that one coaster was (probably) caused by some heavy duty multi-tasking, when my son decided to play a game on the PC while it appeared to be "just sitting there, doing nothing." [Actually, I still suspect he shut down the software, without realizing what he was ending, while he swears it just crashed and gave him an error message... which he then closed. Who knows...]
Are either of these "the best"? Of course not. They do tend to be quite reliable, for me, and they do tend to work with a lot of burners and a lot of firmware, from what I have read, and they do tend to work with a lot of players out there, from what I have read.
There is no "best."
-Bruce
CWR03
22nd November 2005, 01:44
That's the best post I've ever read... oops.
As mentioned earlier, I've been using some very inexpensive disks which have peformed almost flawlessly even when labeled. (I've also come to the conclusion that labeling issues are more likely due to applying a label still damp from printing.) I've also read before that those expensive disks you mentioned hold up well, but I'm not likely to spend almost four times as much for them. For my purposes the cheapos are "best."
smiller667
22nd November 2005, 12:27
For me, the situation is different - I am still using my trusty old Toshiba 2x DVD-R writer & it is getting harder to get suitable media. Of course it will take any DVD-r media, but it will only write 1x for media which its firmware doesn't know.
I am still using RitekG04s - about the only 4x media I can still get & they haven't let me down yet (after integrating a few 4x media, firmware development was abandoned). Previously, I have been just as happy with MCC & TDK media - but they sadly are no longer available in "slow" versions :).
Steve
dimzon
22nd November 2005, 12:29
ok i found the best dvds, Taiyo Yuden's. so if any one is wondering what the best brand is out there ( by far imo) Taiyo Yuden's are the win! .006% errors. never got anything below a 99%
Agreed!
juliox
22nd November 2005, 13:44
Again, the word "best" is the "no-no" word. What might be the "best" for you could turn out to be the absolute worst for the person reading your post.
Just as an example, I have more than 400 DVD backups burned using Ritek GO4 discs, yet these are the exact same discs that the original poster has had nightmares over. My 400+ burns included no coasters, and all have been thoroughly tested, and none have ever failed to play, on any of the five DVD players in my home. Some are now 2 years old, and my failure rate to date has been 0%.
The original poster might have a burner that does not like the disc I claim to be the "best." He might have a player that does not like the disc i claim to be the "best." He may be in need of a firmware update. He might burn at 16X, while I only burned at 4X. He might multi-task and surf the net while burning, and I never did any multi-tasking. He might have a hard drive that is in bad need of de-fragging, while I have a dedicated hard drive that only is used for burning, it has 200Gig, and it gets defragged automatically once every four days. He may be burning in PIO mode, while I have all drives in DMA mode. He might be using Fat32 and I might be using NTFS. He might be using labels, and I might be using a Sharpie...
There are so many variables, that one can never say authoritatively that "brand X" is the best," or that "disc X is the best."
Period.
Now, having said that, I happen to be using (currently) Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 8X discs, and burning at 4X speed, on my Pioneer 8X burner. I also occasionally burn on an NEC 16X burner.
For dual layer blank media, I happen to be using Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4X, and I am burning at 2.4X. This is also on my Pioneer burner. Again, I also occasionally burn on an NEC 16X burner.
My failure rate with these has been as follows:
-On the Taiyo Yudens, no coasters, with more than 125 burns.
-Using the Verbatim dual layers, one coaster out of 44 burns, and that one coaster was (probably) caused by some heavy duty multi-tasking, when my son decided to play a game on the PC while it appeared to be "just sitting there, doing nothing." [Actually, I still suspect he shut down the software, without realizing what he was ending, while he swears it just crashed and gave him an error message... which he then closed. Who knows...]
Are either of these "the best"? Of course not. They do tend to be quite reliable, for me, and they do tend to work with a lot of burners and a lot of firmware, from what I have read, and they do tend to work with a lot of players out there, from what I have read.
There is no "best."
-Bruce
Yes the G04 problem was totally my fault. i remember that i had to hack the driver to be able to burn my go4s at 12X after burning them at 4X i had no problem whatso ever, also i have some movies in some unbranded silver dvds i wonder what brand they are, any ways they are great dvds something tells me they are g04s ( my regular g04s have a printable white face )
Again thank you all for your answers =) Ridata Verbatim and Tao Youdens for the win! ( i never tried a g05 my friends says they arent as good as the g04s ) any way i found my love ! TY03 =)
Stone Knife
22nd November 2005, 19:40
At first I thought it might be my N.E.C. 3540A burner, so I installed a Lite-On 1693S, and tried Nero 6 Ultra and then the new 7 Ultra as well as DVD Shrink, burning directly from an ISO file... 16x, 6x, 4x, about a 25% failure rate- and so many read errors it would take hours to log 'em all.
This is from a 100-pack of RiData 16x DVD+R's, burning from the HDD image.
I'm not home now to grab the exact part number from 'em. Bought this bunch from Newegg at about .38 cents each, I'm wondering what kind of "bargain" I really got. :rolleyes:
So Taiyo Yuden-ville here I come.
I'd just like to add thanks for all the helpful posts and articles here at Doom9. Because of the goldmine of great info here, I've been able to go from knowing absolutely nothing about making DVD's to re-authoring, shrinking and burning in just a couple weeks. :thanks:
TCrowe
30th November 2005, 04:46
One of the reasons you get links is because "what's best" cannot be answered objectively, which is why it's stated in the forum rules that you not ask such a question. People are giving you good places to read factual data on media tests, as well as user opinions on the media, in order for you to extrapolate a good choice based on your hardware and usage.
That was a rather useless thing to post - now are you saying it's good, affordable media, or were you being sarcastic? I'm assuming the latter. The least you could do if you expect good advice is to input some good data yourself, like the brand and model of your burner and what other media you've tried, as well as your experiences with it.
On to what I use: GQ brand from Fry's Electronics (also available from outpost.com), identified as SONY-D11-00, burned with a Pacific Digital 16X burner. I've burned hundreds of disks with no failures or coasters, and I'd recommend them for inexpensive media.
Most everyone says Verbatim, especially their dual-layer media, is the most reliable around.
My old NEC1300a loves those GQ's from Fry's (never had any issues with multitude of manufactures that GQ uses). My LiteOn SOHW-1633S hates them, in fact that 1633S hates most -R discs!
Just got some FUJIFILM03 (50 pack Fuji branded). The worst media. Both drives will burn but good luck reading them back in a DVD-ROM drive. Play fine on my Pioneer standalone, strange.
atreides93
30th November 2005, 10:03
I pretty much settled on Taiyo Yudens several months ago, and haven't needed to switch since then. I used to be a big Ritek fan, but that whole debacle involving their media quality really turned me off from them.
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