Is Xvid DEAD?

[mod]

Just an idea.. what about X3MD? :D

[Yong]

How about 462x? :rolleyes:
(encode video at 462fps) :D

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

How about 462x? :rolleyes:
(encode video at 462fps) :D

??? That's impossible, at the moment. Even new Avivo Ati Converter can't encode at that high speed.

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

And to everyone: I'm beginning to suspect our Persian king is related to roccosi... remember him?

Are you thinking on me? Why you think that I am related to someone called roccosi, I even never heard for him!!!

[Yong]

??? That's impossible, at the moment. Even new Avivo Ati Converter can't encode at that high speed.
LOL, forget the new AVC codec name i suggetsed :p

imho the new AVC codec name doesnt important, for me.
Im only interest what feature are supported,
quality and encoding speed about this new AVC codec :)

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

Well, Ati H.264 encoder isn't good, it's way behind x264 and Ateme H.264 solutions.

[Doom9]

Am I the only one thinking that if the programmers wanted you to make name suggestions, they'd ask for it?

[Teegedeck]

Hehe; perhaps we should take this name-discussion as an expression of excitement? :) Anyway, IF the XviD people would like suggestions, I'm sure they would put up a poll on xvid.org.

[superdump]

There was a poll regarding what people wanted to see next from XviD and a h.264 codec was one of the options. I voted for further improvements to XviD because development efforts on another h.264 codec would be better spent on making x264 even better, in my opinion. Why have another OK codec when we could have one really brilliant codec?

Still, now it's here, I'll give it a look.

As for a name, I don't think it should have XviD in it as it will be misleading to people who own standalone players which say they can play XviD files.

[DeathTheSheep]

We all saw the results of early AVC codecs squishing the ASP codecs out of the best codec competition early-on.
Well, AVC is often considered the "next step up" from ASP, so maybe AVC does constitute "further improvements."

Name: VixD AVC codec. Maybe make it somethin' different than XviD altogether? "XviD AVC" suits me just fine too, though.

[Doom9]

because development efforts on another h.264 codec would be better spent on making x264 even better, in my opinion.I guess that's the eternal question but how can you decide on what a developer spends his/her time on? Hitting closer to home, why is there a realanime for x264, why is there staxrip when megui did x264 encoding from the getgo? I've had to come to terms with the fact that there are different tools for the same job, just as there are different codecs for the same job. Sometimes it may make sense to pool your resources, sometimes it may not, and whether or not it does is often a point of view question, not something for which there is a general answer that makes sense to everybody.

perhaps we should take this name-discussion as an expression of excitement?While partience certainly isn't my virtue, I tend to think at least I can managed to spend my energy on something else while waiting, and I think it's not such a bad thing. If you keep yourself busy, the wait will be so much shorter ;)

Can we stop the name discussion now please unless isibaar or skal come here asking for name suggestions? Thank you.

[virus]

There was a poll regarding what people wanted to see next from XviD and a h.264 codec was one of the options.
...yeah, and the guys definitely listened to the userbase who voted for AVC support :)

Back in summer/autumn 2004, I was persuaded that XviD could have borrowed some code from x264 (still very incomplete at the time) and merge it in a single ASP+AVC codec.
But now things have changed a lot. x264 has progressed to a point where it really stands out (for performance, encoding options availability, portability, and support by external encoding tools), while still offering a lot of room for further refinement. So in the end it would be important for x264 to continue on its distinctive road without getting merged with anything.
If XviD AVC succeeds, I just hope it won't hurt x264 up to the point to make it lose everyone's interest in it. I also hope each group of devs mantain their own approach without too much code borrowing, or we'll end up with two clones instead of a diversified offering ;)

Anyway, it's kinda useless to debate over this "new" XviD right now imho. Most of the development behind XviD pre-1.0, 1.0.x and 1.1 has come from sysKin and GomGom. And none of them has partecipated into this AVC project (yet). So XviD AVC comes from the guys who lately have been more busy and with little time/interest left for XviD. So, who guarantees that this codec will be developed after its initial release? Nobody of course. We don't even know if it's here to stay.

Does someone rememeber Skal's MPEG-4 codec? Promising, written by an extremely talented coder, open sourced, yet abandoned. hdot264 is another similar example (just look at the devlist, it's still on sf.net - there are even some familiar names in it). It's not the userbase size who dictates the success of an OS codec, not even its world-famous name. Open source software is development-driven, and so I'm more concerned that the OS codecs out there (no matter how many there are) actually get interest from coders, and that each project gets a proper devteam that can always bring it further, even if one or two devs call it quits. Otherwise it will only be wasted time.