Old AutoRV10 discussion (closed) [Archive]

31 Flavas

18th July 2002, 21:07

Looks pretty cool, a couple of problems test encoding with it though...

If you put in a file size in for the bitrate calculator (to get your average bitrate) and then delete all the numbers you get a "Run-time error '13': Type mismatch". This causes AutoRV9 to crash. As long as you keep a zero infront of your numbers it won't crash though.

Encoding works great, except even though I have set AutoRV9 to do two pass encoding it states during the analisys pass that the encoding type is CBR (and the final piture show it).

Otherwise, I'd say you've got a kick ass program. I love it. Way easier and inifinatly more practial than GordianKnot.

Here is a feature tip.

A future version of AutoRV9 should allow the use of VobSub "ripped" subitles to be burned into the video. It's less work and more "automatic" to just burn in subs, than to make RealText subs.

Keep up the great work!

-Flavas

bill_baroud

18th July 2002, 22:38

ok, it's work pretty good, but some bug :

1)if my video have already the resolution i want (here 640x352), i CAN'T use this res for the encoding, i'm forced to use your strange resize tab :/

2) have a crash (don't remain which ..sorry) when i use the preview pannel for cropping (when i try a negative value i think ...)

else, the soft work fine, very good job !

a request : the possiblity to use or edit the avs.

Dark-Cracker

18th July 2002, 22:52

@ ookzDVD
thank u :)

@31 Flavas
yes i always must add some checkerror to be sure the number entered areright :) but for the moment i try to some more important part of code :) just wait.

my english is not very good, but if i have right understand : u think the 2pass mode is in cbr ? (but normaly the audience file use the vbr mode, edit the c:\AutoRV9.rpad file and be sure u have this line : "<encodingType type="string">vbrBitrate</encodingType>" )

for the subtitle i think add the possibilty to translate the .sub/.srt/.smi file to .rt file but for the vobsub file i think u will should edit the .avs file.

(in the next version i will add the avseditor before starting the encoding)

thank u :)

@bill_baround
the resize panel use the same function as gknot (select between 4/3 and 16/9) but i should add the possibity to select the 1/1 ratio with the possibility to enter manual values. wait and stay tuned :)

thank u :) bye

31 Flavas

18th July 2002, 23:37

nevermind the bit about CBR

I was looking at the wrong thing on the screen.

heh, sorry to worry you!

-flavas

Dark-Cracker

20th July 2002, 13:35

hi,

if someone are interested to be an beta tester, i have release a CRAP BETA of AutoRV9 1.1 , this version is only to make some tests :

the beta has been deleted because the final version is out

i have added in this beta version the possibility to split after 10/20 or 30 MO in order to make some test with a part of a movie.

plz make some test to be sure the split and the encode credits separately function working fully.

Simply make some tests and post the result.

PS: if u have an error u can see the besweet log file at "c:\AutoRV9_Stream.log" the producer .log file is at the root of the producer directory (producerlog.log) and the log file for rmeditor are at "c:\autoRV9_split.log"

Thank u :) bye.

Razorblade2000

20th July 2002, 19:35

You can PM or Email me the urls of your newest betas. I am going to test them (DVD-Rip/TV-Capture)

P.S. I could also sent you a list of your english mistakes on your website/in your readme... shall I???

P.P.S. What about a 2nd audio stream (using 2 smil files)???

Dark-Cracker

20th July 2002, 20:27

@ All beta tester
Hi could u try to make some test with this beta version (scroll up 1 msg for the url ) ?

in this beta version there some new feature like the possibility to encode separately the endcredits (using the quality mode at 30%) and the possibility to split the final file to 650/700/ or 800 MB i have add in this beta the possibility to split after 10/20 or 30 MB in order to make some test on the split without encode a full movie.

could u try to make some advanced test on these 2 function (split and endcredits) try this :

encode in :

1 pass :
--------
without audio stream :
- encode credits separately, not split
- encode credits separately, split the final file
- don't encode credits separately, not split
- don't encode credits separately, split the final file

with 1 audio stream :
- encode credits separately, not split
- encode credits separately, split the final file
- don't encode credits separately, not split
- don't encode credits separately, split the final file

2 pass (both) :
---------------
without audio stream :
- encode credits separately, not split
- encode credits separately, split the final file
- don't encode credits separately, not split
- don't encode credits separately, split the final file

with 1 audio stream :
- encode credits separately, not split
- encode credits separately, split the final file
- don't encode credits separately, not split
- don't encode credits separately, split the final file

try to make one (or all :) ) of these test and post the result (with the most informations possible : lenght, totalfilesize, desiredfinalfile, splitfilesize, part1filesize,part2filesize, audio mode & bitrate used...etc...)

thank uvery much if all these tests are succeded i will add the support of the 2 audio stream, the subtitles and the .smil creation (and perhaps the authoring of an interactive menu).

PS:
think to post a msg with the result of your test .

if u have an error the besweet log are in c:\AutoRV9_Stream1.log the producer.log file is in the root of the producer directory and the join/split log is in c:\AutoRV9_Split.log

PS2 : i seems to me rmeditor have a bug ; he can't split some file with the audio preview codec for the audio stream, to solve this problem overwritte the rmeditor\codec directory with the producer\codec directory, now rmedit can open some .rmvb file with the r8-preview codec.

PS3 : if u encode the endcredits separately think to check the " Adjust bitrate after endcredits" this will increase the bitrate after the encoding of the credits part to obtain the desired filesize.

@razorblade :
i have send u a PM , i wait your answer :) thank u .

Bye.
i wait the result of the tests.

hurts70

21st July 2002, 09:27

dvd's subtitle?

can i use autorv9 to encode it?

MaXiMuS

21st July 2002, 10:03

1) select the Producer,RMeditor, and Besweet path (button in the first tab)

what is RMeditor ? & where to find it ?

thx

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 10:04

Does anyone know howto convert srt files to real text format???
Using Radlight subtitle studio DOESN'T work!!! (He uses time coordinates while he should use frames)...

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 10:05

It's in your real producer directory (subfolder "RealMediaEditor")

Originally posted by MaXiMuS

what is RMeditor ? & where to find it ?

thx

Dark-Cracker

21st July 2002, 11:13

@ hurts70
no wait the next version for the support of the subtitles.

@Razorblade2000
use the tool " subtitle workshop" www.deksoft.cjb.net this is a good software.
it seems to me u can use too the .smi file in the .smil file try and say me.

PS: does someone have do some tests ?

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 11:21

Southpark (An episode not the movie; captured with PowerVCR in MPEG2; demultiplexed .mpa audio and made .d2v with dvd2avi)
1 Pass (Using the 2dcleaner anime filter)->a little bit more expanation would be nice
1 Audio stream
No endcredits
No split
Audio: Stereo 44100bps
Video: rv9 527900bps
Desired filesize: 75MB

PROBLEM:
1. DVD2AVI said there would be a 258ms delay, I put this value in your delay textbox and the result was VERY out of sync
2. I ignored the delay -> out of sync (the 258 ms)

-> I could make a wav file using the headac3he delay option, but somehow your gui doesn't support direct .wav input (It is nice that autorv9 can decode ac3, mpa... but I personally would like to have this job done by headac3he, because of better 2 pass normalizing/boosting/downmixing)

Futurama (An episode too)

Same settings as Southpark
No delay

PROBLEM:
OUT OF SYNC!!!!

Possible solution for both problems?:
Maximum Framerate was set to 25...this may be nice for PAL movies, but when NTSC is selected you should have a value of 30. (DAMN POWERVCR!!! I can't make a new profile, so I have to take the 29,97 framerate

Another problem:
Resizing!
I captured these episodes in 640x480. Using your app, I can't keep my original resolution so my results don't fill the whole monitor

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 12:23

...I just recognized that there is an option called Maximum framerate...
I'll give it a try
:rolleyes:

Dark-Cracker

21st July 2002, 12:39

hi,

try without the 2d Cleaner to be sure this is not this filter who desynth the audio.

PS: the max Framerate must be your framerate ( 25 for a pal source and 30 for an NTSC source) i suppose it for that the audio is out of synchro.

PS: u can too low the latency to 4 if you have still a problem with the audio.

PS2: do u have test the end-credits and the split option ?

bye

MaXiMuS

21st July 2002, 14:59

thanks for reply Razorblade2000

yeah i am dumb+blind :D :D :D

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 18:02

I already tested the endcredit option, worked fine!
(I am using your tool at the moment to compress Fightclub, already have compressed 1 hour (analyse pass coplete))

u can use too the .smi file in the .smil file
What? Sorry, I don't understand...:confused:

Using this tool I also can't make any subtitles that work... (Maybe I'm doing sth wrong...)

31 Flavas

21st July 2002, 18:26

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
Does anyone know howto convert srt files to real text format???
Using Radlight subtitle studio DOESN'T work!!! (He uses time coordinates while he should use frames)... @ Razor2k

Hm... Subtitle Studio does work, but you have to make a few modifications to the output file. Here is what I do.

After I do the post OCR quote and l to I changes in SubRip, I back (all) the subitles up .45 seconds to bring them into better sync. After that I open up Subtitle Studio 2.0 and it does the converstion from Subrip to RealTime (RealText) format.

These subitles won't work in RealPlayer by default, though.

You must to overwite:

<Window
Width = "640"
Height = "480"
WordWrap = "true"
Loop = "true"
>With this:<Window duration="0:23:59.00" Width="448" height="50" WordWrap="true" bgcolor="black">

<center>
You can dick around with all the values to suit your taste, but of course, the ones you must change (for your video) are duration and width. Duration does not have to be exact. Just make sure it is close enough.

You can further edit these subtitles if you want. You can use multiple colors and enlarge specific if you want. Just stick a around the text.

Do you know what you need in the .smil file? I had to make a few moidifications here too.

31 Flavas

21st July 2002, 18:51

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
PROBLEM:
OUT OF SYNC!!!!Have you fixed the audio sync problem? DVD2AVI does tell me there is a delay also, but I just do not put the delay in and everything is all synced up.

I am dealing with DVD data though, not self recorded stuff.

The resizing definatly does need to be fixed, but hey, this is his 1.0. Give him some time :)

-flavas

Razorblade2000

21st July 2002, 19:09

I don't know... I am still compressing Fightclub
I'll test it tomorrow

P.S. actually it is 1.1 beta...

P.P.S.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:devil:
DON'T CALL ME RAZOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angry:
PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE!!!!!:scared:

31 Flavas

21st July 2002, 19:29

Hey, I called you razor2k. not razor! Get a shorter nick if you don't want to be abreviated!!!!!!!!!!!

would blade2k be better? i'm not typing out your whole nick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too long and i'm too lazy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Razorblade2000

22nd July 2002, 11:39

:D call me RB2K :D That is all right!!!

BTW:
Fightclub gave me an 614 MB video file (2Pass), including the 2 audio streams and the subtitles (thank you 31 Flavas) I've got a nice 700MB bunch of bytes!!!:)

P.S. 31 Flavas, what did you chane in the smil (For me, my smil works perfect... but maybe it could get better?)

31 Flavas

23rd July 2002, 04:22

Well, I got the source for my .smil from a post in this forum. It was for movies though, not a 4:3 anime, so it added space above the 16:9 picture to center the movie when playing it in full screen mode.

I had to hack it up and figure out what changed what (basicly how it worked) so that I could modifiy it work for my 4:3 anime.

If your .smil file centers the video and positions the subtitles correctly, you don't need to do anything further with it.

-flavas

Dark-Cracker

25th July 2002, 03:32

hi,

AUTORV9 1.1 is out Changelog :

- Add an Auto-Crop function.
- Add an "Smart Crop All" function.
- Encode the end-credits separately (Quality 30%).
- possibitity to adjust the bitrate after the end-credits.
- Possibility to split the file after 650/700 or 800 Mo
- possibility to change the Encode Process Priority.
(Thanks to dannidin)
- Display the .Ac3 file informations.
(using the CyberDemonII genericmm.dll file).
- u can ID3Tag your movie
*and Fixed some little bugs*

HERE : www.dark-angel.does.it

my tool work fine with the Producer Preview 9.0 the Helix CLI version don't close at the end of the process, to enjoy my tool use the REALPRODUCER PREVIEW VERSION , i am working on a light package of the Producer9 with the PReview Version and the Helix Codec.

U must have the rmeditor tool if u want split and join (this tool is in the preview package) (it seems there is a bug with the rmedit, there are not the Audio-rv8-preview codec and sometimes it don't want open a .rmvb file, to solve this problem simply copy the folder ....producer\codec\ in ...realmediaeditor\codec\ )

i have make a lot of tests with this version but if u have still a problem , u can find the error with the .log file.

Besweet Log file : c:\AutoRV9_Stream1.log
Real Producer log : Realproducer directory\producer.log
Rmeditor - Join log : C:\AutoRV9_Join.log
Rmeditor - Split log : C:\AutoRV9_Split.log

TO DO LIST :
------------
- support of 2 audio stream
- support of subtitles
- create the .smil file with menu

u can mail me at : darkcracker@caramail.com

Bye.

Razorblade2000

25th July 2002, 10:08

...I'll give it a try!
:D

Razorblade2000

1st August 2002, 12:04

THe out of synch thing wasn't a bug in AutoRV9. It was one in PowerVCRII...
Have a look at:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30355

Razorblade2000

7th August 2002, 11:46

...how is the developing working? Are we close to a 2 audio streams version?

Dark-Cracker

26th September 2002, 03:50

hi,

if someone are interested here was the first beta of autorv9 v1.2
i have added :

- add a boost of the audio (sometimes the audio level was too low).
- fixed a problem with the tempory directory (producer use by default c:\windows\temp\ to store the tempory files)
- add support for two audio stream
- create the .smil files for launch the video and the different audio stream.
- fixed a problem with long name for the avisynth plugin.
- add a check on the avisynth installation.
- improve the bitrate calculator
- clean of the code.

http://www.eclipsedvd.firstream.net/autodub/AutoRV9_1.2beta.zip

to be sure to succed your dvd backup use the light version of real producer (1.6 MO) .

http://www.eclipsedvd.firstream.net/autodub/RealProducer9_Light.rar

Post your bugs report or comments.
i am working actually to add the support of the subtitles.
stay tuned :)

Bye.

atracus

26th September 2002, 12:59

hi Dark-Cracker,
a first feedback: I'm using Helix Producer Plus 9.0.0.972, the path is SET to producer.exe, and I get the following behavior:

1. the Credits encoding window did not close manually at the end of encode: with AutoRV9 at the max CPU (above 90%), probably waiting for feedback from "producer lite", I had to End Program from Taskman

2. neither during Credits encoding, nor during Movie encoding, I see anything happening on the Log frame; this is prob due to the same reason as above.

In any case, I'll try next encode with the Lite version, as you suggest, maybe installing it in the same folder as AutoRV. I preferred the "latest" I have, in order to have probably less problems / imperfections... do you plan to make the final 1.2 compatible with Helix? And - do you plan to add "Find Max Gain" to BeSweet downsampling (optional, but welcome)?

thanks for the good work!

[atx]

Dark-Cracker

26th September 2002, 13:22

hi,

first my english was not very well and perhaps i have not understand all right your post.

>1. the Credits encoding window did not close manually at the end of
> encode: with AutoRV9 at the max CPU (above 90%), probably waiting
> for feedback from "producer lite", I had to End Program from Taskman.

The Helix producer command line doesn't close automaticly at the end of the encoding process. it for that the lite version use the producer.exe file from preview version (which close at the end of the encoding) and the helix codec. i am still working on a way to kill the producer.exe task at the end of the encode but i have no find a way to detect the end of the encoding (i had think to wait the creation of the .rmvb file but if there is an error , the software will do an infinite loop) if u have an idear post a msg.

>2. neither during Credits encoding, nor during Movie encoding, I see anything happening on the Log frame; this is prob due to the same reason as above.

this sentence mean u see the loggin of the encoding process i am right ? if yes it because i have added in the command line the -lc e,d
to show the error and the dianostic (much easy to understand why the encode doesn't work and report me the error ).

>In any case, I'll try next encode with the Lite version, as you suggest, maybe installing it in the same folder as AutoRV.

normaly the final version of autorv9 will be bundle with the light version, and a autodetection of the path.

>I preferred the "latest" I have, in order to have probably less
>problems / imperfections...

the light version come with the helix codec = same quality (i have make some test with the lite versus the helix and the encode process was a bit more speed for the light and the final size arond 1% the same and quality are the same for my eyes)

>do you plan to make the final 1.2 compatible with Helix?

i will try but i have really not idear to detect the end of the encoding.

>And - do you plan to add "Find Max Gain" to BeSweet downsampling (optional, but welcome)?

the besweet profil have already the post gain option (added in the version 1.1) :) :) :)

bye

take5

26th September 2002, 16:45

Dark-Cracker,

AutoRV9 v1.2 Beta tester here. I will try to do some testing tonight and report on results tomorrow.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Homepage: http://flash.to/take5

atracus

26th September 2002, 16:58

thanks D-C,
you understood perfectly all my questions, and all answers were satisfactory and helpful.

[atx]

ohliuv

14th October 2002, 22:38

Originally posted by Razorblade2000
It's in your real producer directory (subfolder "RealMediaEditor")

Just got Helix Producer Plus, and RMEditor is not included. somewhere in the support section it say that "will be available soon" :/

karl_lillevold

24th October 2002, 22:17

Originally posted by atracus
a first feedback: I'm using Helix Producer Plus 9.0.0.972, the path is SET to producer.exe, and I get the following behavior:
1. the Credits encoding window did not close manually at the end of encode: with AutoRV9 at the max CPU (above 90%), probably waiting for feedback from "producer lite", I had to End Program from Taskman

I have also seen this hang at end of encode with producer 9.0.0.972. This appears to have been fixed in 9.0.1 Gold (9.0.1.250).

Hope this helps.

Dark-Cracker

11th November 2002, 08:36

Autorv9 v1.2 was out :

www.dark-angel.does.it (go in the download section)

Changelog v1.2 :
----------------

1.2 :
- add support of two audio stream
- add support of subtitle
- add a preview video
- add an avs script editor
- generate .smil file (needed for launch subs or audio streams)
- improve the autocrop
- add the overhead calc
- improve the quality indice
- fix the problem for the "c:\" tempory file
- free split size
- improve the split (now split on a keyframe)
- add filters for avisynth :
- Simple Resize
- Lanczos Resize
- TomsMoComp
- Decomb
- IT
- IVTC 2
- CNR2
- TemporalSoften2
- Unfilter
- Msharpen
- 2D cleaner
- SmartSmoothHiQ
- SmoothDeinterlace
- Convolution3D
- ......
- improve the besweet preset (better normalisation & boost)
- autosearch of real producer.
- clean of the code & internal changes

Credits :
--------

- Trbarry (for the tomsmocomp & unfilter and thank u for the simpleresize modification i make a little time before adding it but i was on hollidays and my problem's famility take me busy).
- Marc FD (thank u for you work on the cnr2 filter ) .
- Neuron2 (thank u for the decomb & msharpen filter )
- Nic (for finding & compiling the lanczos.dll file )
- Sh0dan for the SmotherHiq & avisynth
- Vlad59 for the Convolution3D
- Dividee for the Temporalsoften2
- Wizard_FL for the ivtc22
- Kiraru for the _2Dcleaner
- TheJam for IT 0.51
- Gunnar Thalin for SmoothDeinterlace
- DspGuru for the Besweet soft

and geets to Ambamo for the smil creation and Kintorask for the ntsc tests.

Bye.

PS: sorry for my very crap english

Dark-Cracker

10th April 2003, 16:54

hi,

just a little question :

which avisynth v2.5.1 filter do u want in the next autorv9 release ?

i think i will add :

simpleresize,bicublinresize
convolution3D,edeen,dust,fluxsmooth
unfilter,msharpen,warpsharp
vsfilter

if someone have a request for a filter :)
i will release the autorv9 v1.3beta1 in a few days.
(unhappyly the realoneplayer have crashed and impossible to reinstall it :( :( :( and the .smil tests will be reported).

Bye.

Valky

10th April 2003, 17:22

Cnr2, Tomsmocomp and the most important is AvsMon.

Unfortunately I haven't had any luck to make it work with RealMedia codec, but it works great with Xvid and Divx and 3ivx. It just would be nice to watch encoding process but I am not sure if it works with RealMedia.

also these temporalsoften modes recommendd by author himself would be nice:

#Soft filtering:
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)

#Medium filtering:
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)

#Heavy filtering:
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)

And I am not sure how it was done earlier, but somekind of DelayAudio in avs-script could be nice if it isn't there already :)

Sirber

10th April 2003, 23:11

Defenitly DeComb! The most usefull filter of all!!! :D

Synaps

12th April 2003, 15:27

In the next release WAVE option possibility i think it's a good thing !

+++

CaptainCarrot

13th April 2003, 00:43

Hi DarkCracker,
i've just done 2 movies with your "encode credits separately"-option, and they were both oversized. I was aiming at 703MB for the first movie, and i got 701MB movie +9MB credits = 710MB. The second movie was aimed at 790MB, and I got 788 + 8, so it looks pretty much as if the size of the credits is not substracted from the total size of the movie before the bitrate is recalculated, since everytime I didn't use the "encode credits separately" the files were perfect size. :confused:

Dark-Cracker

13th April 2003, 07:01

i will made some tests :) to see where the problem come from.
and hope it will be solved in the next release.

stay tuned.
Bye.

AsPiRiN

13th April 2003, 15:02

Hey Dark!
I did a movie with rv9 and srt subtitles with autorv9 but the subs are not dispayed correctly(funnie characters). They are greek subs. However if i open the .rt file with notepad, they are ok. So there is something to do with real one gold and mpclassic. Is there an option that i miss?? I couldnt find something..

Dark-Cracker

13th April 2003, 15:13

hum strange.

try to change in the .rt header file the font used (sometimes if the letter doesn't exist in the font it will display some strange characters.).

else u can try to add in the <window ...> header this :

<window ... type="generic" >

i will use standard ansii iso to display your .rt file.

post the result if this solve ypur problem.

Bye.

AsPiRiN

15th April 2003, 00:54

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
hum strange.

try to change in the .rt header file the font used (sometimes if the letter doesn't exist in the font it will display some strange characters.).

else u can try to add in the <window ...> header this :

<window ... type="generic" >

i will use standard ansii iso to display your .rt file.

post the result if this solve ypur problem.

Bye.

That didnt work...

But i was suggested to open them with notepad and change the face="Arial" to face="System". That actually worked! The subs are displayed correctly!!!(even if i dont really like this type of fonts!)!

However they are a little small and if increase their size, some of them at the bottom are not displayed. Can i somehow move them up , a little bit over the video???

AsPiRiN

15th April 2003, 01:25

I found these settings to work best for me for a 640xXXX 16:9 movie.Others than than produce more cropping of the video as i cant make subs transparent over the movie. :(

rt file:

<window duration="0:01:32.00" width="640" height="70" wordwrap="true" loop="true" bgcolor="black" >


smil file:

<smil xmlns="">
<head>
<layout>
<root-layout backgroundColor="black" width="640" height="456"/>
<region id="video_region" z-index="1"/>
<region id="text_region" height="70" bottom="0" z-index="2"/>

Maybe u should make some tests too and if u think that they suit best for u too, maybe u could apply a patch for the original subtitle files of RV9, inside autorv9 1.3!
:)

P.S1 For 4:3 movies, subs crop the image because of the black backround :(

p.s2 If it is possible to display subs over the movie (transparent without black backround), please post a way