Perfect burn, anyone?

[hdi20]

Just wondering, has anyone ever made a perfect burn. For me that is impossible to accomplish. So far I have burned 140-150 DVDs none of which is errorless. I'm using Verbatim media (MCC 004) on NEC 3520 (fw 3.06) burner. Have tried burning at 2.4/4/6/8/12/16 (Nero Burning ROM 6.6.0.14) but every DVD has at least 100-120 PI failures (tested with Nero DVD Speed). That happens with both video and data discs. Every single DVD plays fine on my standalone, and that makes me wonder whats the deal with this DVD testing software. Showing failures all over a DVD that ends up playing perfectly. I just dont get it. Will these DVDs become unreadable or what?
Can anyone clarify it for me?

[battscrew]

I've tried that program but cannot get it to scan using the disc quality button

[setarip_old]

@hdi20
every DVD has at least 100-120 PI failures (tested with Nero DVD Speed)
And from what I've read at this and other forums, if you test the same disc again, with the same testing program, you'll likely yield different results.

Additionally, if I remember correctly, tests of this nature were originally developed to detect manufacturing defects in UNUSED blank media. So, I guess it's quite possible that, in some instances, the "defects" being identified existed even before you burned the media...

My perspective (I'm sure others may disagree) is that, if it plays properly, it's good ;>}

**EDIT** Corrected typo re: "perspective"...

[charleski]

Optical disc technology contains extensive error correction systems. This is necessary as you're obviously dealing with very close tolerances on these things. All discs are imperfect. If you wanted perfection you'd be spending a lot more per blank (try using Taiyo-Yuden blanks, which sell for a lot more than Verbatim) and you'd be using a burner that cost a lot more than the cheap consumer versions. Even then you'd get a low level of errors.

A maximum PI of under 250 when reading at 1x seems generally regarded to be perfectly acceptable, so your burns look pretty decent, don't fret over it.

[CWR03]

When I use Nero and check the "Verify data" it fails the test every time, but the burn is always playable/readable. Out of close to 1,000 burns, most with some cheap disks (GQ brand, 20 cents each, identified as Sony-D11-00) I've only had a dozen coasters, and most of those were problems that would have failed any burn, like the power flickering or accidentally kicking the PC.

[charleski]

Hmm, I'd be worried about burns that failed the verify test in Nero. Recordable discs do degrade over time and I'd be concerned if there were unreadable sectors even after burning.

[CWR03]

Hmm, I'd be worried about burns that failed the verify test in Nero.
I worried about it at first - the only time I use Nero is when I'm backing up files with long names that Roxio can't handle, and I still do a secondary backup with Roxio just in case. After playing several Nero-burned disks that reported a failure but still played perfectly, I quit worrying.

[feedback]

Just wondering, has anyone ever made a perfect burn.
I don't know about perfect but I am surely making better burns.

At one time I used Nero to burn, but I switched to ImgBurn for better burns. Example, my burner does not like Sony 08D1 DVD-R discs. Every time I have burned one it skipped (burn @4x)BTW I have no problems with CMC Mag, Ty, etc. however, use the Sony and I have nothing but problems...that is until I used ImgBurn. For whatever the reason Imgburn will burn a good Sony DVD-R for me. Thanks LIGHTNING UK!

Just to make absolutely sure I burned a movie with Nero, (ripped with DVDD) on a Sony...guess what it skipped like always (tossed that one). Then I used ImgBurn to burn the same movie to the Sony DVD-R and it worked...no skipping!

So, like I said I now have improved burns.

I believe blutach has some info. somewhere on why he doesn't use Nero to burn. But to each his own.


O.T.,...BTW is anything in the world Perfect?

Regards,:)

[skeg64]

some have come close though!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=1124972#post1124972