View Full Version : why do those black lines above and under stay after ripping?
mightyspawn
28th October 2005, 06:22
Well sometimes when i rip a dvd those black balks at top and bottom stay in the final rip, i know with gordianknot you could remove them, but how do i do that in auto gordian knot? Because they only take space of the final quality.
Or is there no possibility to get rid of them with auto gordian knot?
CWR03
28th October 2005, 08:51
First, the "black balks" take practically no space to encode. Second, AutoGK by default removes them unless you set it not to. Are you sure it's not your player? A 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 video won't fill an HD screen top to bottom. Third, did you encode the same video both with GordianKnot and AutoGK and have one without and one with the "black balks," or were they entirely different projects?
mightyspawn
28th October 2005, 14:00
Well they are really in it, because media player classics wont show them if you you are not in full screen mode. But with this rip it shows those black balks. But with Gordian knot i know from the past you could manually remove those things. But i just leave it, doesnt it matter in the resolution. Because now those black balks are included in the final rip, but without them there would be more resolution available.
CWR03
28th October 2005, 20:43
You can manually remove them with AutoGK as well, using Hidden Options (Ctrl + F9). Perhaps it's not reading the file properly to remove them automatically.
mightyspawn
29th October 2005, 13:51
I think something is wrong with the program, when i watch compilation test those black balks arent there, but at the final they are back again. how can this be?
zacoz
29th October 2005, 15:53
Well they are really in it, because media player classics wont show them if you you are not in full screen mode.Not true - it depends upon the settings you have under the "View --> Video Frame" menu path.
I use "Touch Window from Inside", "Keep Aspect Ratio" & "Override Aspect Ratio - Default" which acts as you describe. However some other settings will cause black banding when in windowed mode.
I think something is wrong with the programOne should really be a bit more careful before making such flippant comments. I definitely wouldn't be saying such without having already posted my log file for some of the guru's to look over - even the most experienced users can sometimes accidentally mess something up (eg mis-setting an option).
The problem is more likely to be something unusual in the source IFO, or settings you are using in AGK. Check to ensure that you are not enabling the hidden .autocrop setting, as this will override the default AGK setup that would remove the black banding. (If you do have .autocrop enabled then you need to make sure it's set correctly.)
And if you didn't get the hint - post your log file (within code tags, rather than as an attachment - as they need to wait for moderator approval).
manono
31st October 2005, 07:12
Open the AVI in VDubMod. If there's no black encoded in the video, none will be shown in VDubMod.
mightyspawn
31st October 2005, 16:51
ok ill take all my words back, but why are those balks there sometimes and other times not in media player classic. very odd. thanks for the help
zacoz
3rd November 2005, 11:26
Either the settings are changed (if you're playing the exact same dvd/file)
or
you've come across the situation where some DVD's actually have the black strips encoded within the video while others do not and rely on the stand alone player to appropriately position the video (giving the same impression)
I've got some 007 videos that have the strip encoded.
One advantage of having the strip encoded within the video is that the subtitles can be put down there, thus leaving the actual picture area clear. Obviously not the same benefit however if you actually have a widescreen TV (I'm not so fortunate).
CWR03
3rd November 2005, 22:57
zacoz, using DirectVobSub settings you can have the video window resized always to your TV or display's aspect ratio, so subs on a 2.35:1 video could still be below the video on a 4:3 display.
zacoz
4th November 2005, 12:15
@CWR03: Unfortunately, unless I'm mistaken, that's only useful if I'm leaving subs external, and I'm running a server or my standalone supports external subs.
Also unfortunately, I'm running a cheap setup and routinely burn my subs into video so that they do display on my standalone.
:thanks: for suggestion though.
shinji257
10th November 2005, 22:52
One advantage of having the strip encoded within the video is that the subtitles can be put down there, thus leaving the actual picture area clear. Obviously not the same benefit however if you actually have a widescreen TV (I'm not so fortunate).
Not to go off topic but I should mention that some dvd players can and will automatically zoom in when you have a dvd like what you mentioned. Therefore eliminating that issue. I have one such dvd player along with a widescreen tv that does just that. The catch? I can't see status information like current Title or Chapter when advancing through the disc because the dvd players own zoom feature cuts it off.
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