cee SP at 1950$

[johnhamler1]

give me a good reason why to pay 1950$ for this software?
what s the difference between the basic and the SP version.

is the multipass so great?

[Sirber]

multipass is great, but not that pricy.

[Mug Funky]

remember the price also covers MPEG-LA costs...

actually, i wonder just how cheap an encoder can be sold for and still break even? certainly $1950 is a bit dear, but CCE is pretty much the best thing out there (better than most hardware encoders in fact).

[johnhamler1]

what do u mean MPEG-LA costs????

[int 21h]

what do u mean MPEG-LA costs????

Any commercial implementation of an application that directly uses MPEG (1/2/4, etc.) patents must pay licensing fees to the MPEG-LA. Most of the licensing costs are structured in tiers (by charging percentages), so companies that make more than $100,000 pay more than companies that make less than $100,000. For hardware devices, the costs are usually per device (i.e. mobile phones that use MPEG4 pay something like $0.50 per handset, hardware DVD Players were at one time around 10% of total cost to cover all of the licensing involved, MPEG-LA's share of that was around $2.50 a player, that has since been reduced slightly afaik)

The MPEG-LA takes all the fees collected from companies using the patents and divides it back out (after taking out some administrative portion of course) to the member companies (22 or so members?)

You can actually see the ~900 licensees of MPEG-LA patents here (http://www.mpegla.com/m2/m2-licensees.cfm).

[johnhamler1]

I see!
but still not an escuse to charge 1950$ for an encoder!!!

[Video Dude]

CCE SP is not meant for consumers. CCE Basic is the consumer version and its only $58.

[dragongodz]

CCE SP is not meant for consumers. :goodpost:

thats the point people always seem to miss. its aimed at professional use and companies always charge high for such programs. i know of an example here where an industrial design business uses a CAD program that cost them $12,000(thats Aus dollars). consumers are NOT expected to buy such things which is why there are cheaper and free alternatives..

[johnhamler1]

so a privat owner should expect a lower quality because he is not a professional?.

... no commercial=less quality?

[Richk50]

Companies charge as much as they can get.
Obviously people pay the $1950 or there would be no company.

[unmei]

so a privat owner should expect a lower quality because he is not a professional?.

The last 10% to the top always cost alot more than the "basic" 90% (see hardware etc). If you are ok with "not quite the best" you always get away with much lower costs than when you insist on the best possible. That's not new at all, and IMHO a good concept because it allows for cheap good quality while the one's who insist on the top quality pay development.

[Shinigami-Sama]

chances are you as a single person will never notice the differance between the Pro and standard editions, so why does it realy matter?

[Video Dude]

so a privat owner should expect a lower quality because he is not a professional?.

... no commercial=less quality?
Custom Technology is a company, not a charity. It would make no sense from a business perspective for them to charge studios who are making a 1/2 million dollar profit from video distribution under a $100 for CinemaCraft SP.


Professional products are always more expensive than consumer versions.

Pro camcorders are over $10,000, while you could buy a perfectly good consumer camcorder for under $500.

Same with digital cameras and lenses.

I would love to be chauffeured in a Rolls Royce or a Bentley, but I would more likely drive a Honda Civic. It's not as fancy, but I can drive to the same exact places as a more expensive car.


So its not just CCE ... its life.

[grumpy]

chances are you as a single person will never notice the differance between the Pro and standard editions Cuz at $1950 your never going to see the pro verson. As far as not seing the difference, I guess it depends on what they would leave out. Even Microsoft has cheaper full versons of Pro software for non Non pro use. Anyway aren't most pros holding out for a real time hardware solution?

[dragongodz]

so a privat owner should expect a lower quality because he is not a professional?
its not about quality but bells and whistles, or features if you prefer. that is basic versions usually have limitations or is missing extras.

for example, from what i have read, the latest CCE SP can do something like 99 passes while CCE Basic can only do 2 passes. if you REALLY think you need all those passes then you have to pay for it. ;)

as others have already said this is not limited to CCE but a lot of hardware and software products. so i dont see what you are getting all bent up over. especially when there are free alternatives for most software aswell. :D