XBox360 supports AAC (catch included)

[lexor]

well the guys at Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000787063952/) got some answers from MS about XBox360, and guess what, it supports AAC audio files, but there is a catch because it is copy protected [...] AAC files originating from the iTunes music store will not be supported

so basically if you got DRMed AAC it won't play, but normal ones will :) if there ever was a reason to say ROFL to the whole RIAA thing with draconian DRM, this is it.

[Neo Neko]

To be expected. I doubt that Windows Media will play on the new video iPod.

Now this is convergence! As our devices become more capable and integrated it is our media that becomes more fragmented and incompatable.

Ironic. No? This is why open standards are so important in the age of convergence. It does not matter how many different media types your device can play if it can only play limited variety of them. Open standards will be the final addition that will cause convergence to explode into the mainstream. Encode once and play anywhere. Oh that and drop the DRM crap. :P

Apple has gotten the closest so far. Though they shoot themselves in the foot at the end by adding DRM. Though as DRM goes it is one of the less draconian ones. OTOH Microsoft is usually miles off with proprietary secret formats and draconian DRM. I predict that neither of them will win untill things change.

[Inventive Software]

Why is it that new devices are so reluctant to support Ogg Vorbis these days? I'm still waiting for the ipod to natively support it, though I doubt that'll happen. :(

[bond]

of course protected itunes files will not play, they use a proprieatary drm sheme, whose specs are not publically available

[Elias]

well the guys at Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000787063952/) got some answers from MS about XBox360, and guess what, it supports AAC audio files, but there is a catch

so basically if you got DRMed AAC it won't play, but normal ones will :) if there ever was a reason to say ROFL to the whole RIAA thing with draconian DRM, this is it.Haha! But that's just great because no one likes DRM and no one wants support for it (except the companies).

To be expected. I doubt that Windows Media will play on the new video iPod.

Now this is convergence! As our devices become more capable and integrated it is our media that becomes more fragmented and incompatable.

Ironic. No? This is why open standards are so important in the age of convergence. It does not matter how many different media types your device can play if it can only play limited variety of them. Open standards will be the final addition that will cause convergence to explode into the mainstream. Encode once and play anywhere. Oh that and drop the DRM crap. :P

Apple has gotten the closest so far. Though they shoot themselves in the foot at the end by adding DRM. Though as DRM goes it is one of the less draconian ones. OTOH Microsoft is usually miles off with proprietary secret formats and draconian DRM. I predict that neither of them will win untill things change.Well said. And yes Neo Neko, open standards rule. That's why I'm a strong supporter of MPEG-4.

Why is it that new devices are so reluctant to support Ogg Vorbis these days? I'm still waiting for the ipod to natively support it, though I doubt that'll happen.Don't hold your breath, ogg vorbis won't get anywhere because it's a fileformat/audio codec that the media industry can never control. It's not hard at all to implement support for it in DVD players etc (no patents, free, open source etc), but ogg vorbis will probably never have a break through because the media industry doesn't like it.

[unmei]

Ogg vorbis got into iRiver tho, but that is probably only because that company is like "not a big player" and IIRC a chinese one. I don't even know if their new players still do, but i love mine for the aoTuV files it plays.

[Sirber]

Mine (Lyra jukebox) is backed by the MP3 compagny (mp3pro). :(

[Slogra]

I don't know why people buy an ipod if they want ogg vorbis support. My iAudio player supports ogg vorbis (at any bitrate) and flac :). Though i would really like an player that can use Rockbox. Rockbox is firmware that supports gapless and Musepack, yammie!

http://www.rockbox.org/download/