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sjchmura
15th October 2005, 06:03
If I want to encode things to ensure the AVC will play on blue ray, HD-DVD etc, will the "main" profile" in Nero do that? As I understand it, Blue-ray will NOT support the "high" profile" coming out from Nero and currenrlyt in beta in x264.

Correct?

bond
15th October 2005, 11:32
afaik the specs for hddvd/bluray are not publically available till now, so there is no way to encode a h.264 stream which is compliant for sure to them till now

ac-chan123
16th October 2005, 16:05
bond is right. If you are interessted in how far they have developed the format then have a look at ther page(www.blu-raydisc.com , yes without e). Under Technical Info -> White Paper you will find "White Paper: BD ROM - Audio Visual Application Format Specifications". On page 17(3.3) you can find you anwser.

Sgt_Strider
17th October 2005, 00:03
bond is right. If you are interessted in how far they have developed the format then have a look at ther page(www.blu-raydisc.com , yes without e). Under Technical Info -> White Paper you will find "White Paper: BD ROM - Audio Visual Application Format Specifications". On page 17(3.3) you can find you anwser.

lol or you can copy and paste for us lazy bastards ;).

Elias
17th October 2005, 00:11
My guess is that all Blu-Ray players will play MPEG-4 mp4 files (Part 2 and Part 10 with AAC) just as DVD players today play VCD/SVCD.

Seriously, why support AVC and not AAC?

Shinigami-Sama
17th October 2005, 03:10
with this capasity they could use WAVEs and still have space left over so useing aac may be overkill on the compression?

ac-chan123
17th October 2005, 12:08
@sgt_strider: i have tryed, but i havn't found how to do in xpdf(Linux).
also( bad, self translated from german): give one a fish and he life a day. Show how the capture fish and he life for long time. :D

@Elias: where have you found mp4 fileformat support in Blu-Raydisc? They use MPEG2 Part 1(13818-1): System - Transport Stream with Part 10 AVC. So there is also no MPEG4 Part 2 ASP support.

bond
17th October 2005, 12:22
@Elias: where have you found mp4 fileformat support in Blu-Raydisc? They use MPEG2 Part 1(13818-1): System - Transport Stream with Part 10 AVC. So there is also no MPEG4 Part 2 ASP support.right, and hd-dvd will use mpg program streams (as the current dvds)

so both will NOT use .mp4

about aac: hd-dvd has mandatory support for he-aac in the rom zone (whatever this means), which means every hd-dvd player has to be able to play he-aac

still both bluray and hd-dvd do NOT use aac for the normal video content

so whether aac+avc-in-mp4 will play in coming players is not sure at all and only speculation