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wdmalik
13th October 2005, 22:06
What is difference between First Pass and First Pass (Fast),
what i got from the forum is that the first pass is the basis of the quality for second pass encoding .. so why two different first pass modes .. :confused:

LoRd_MuldeR
13th October 2005, 22:24
The first pass collects information and the second pass does the final encoding. With two passes the encoder can lower the data rate in the less complex scenes and give more data rate to the more complex scenes. This usually gives a better video quality at the same file size (compared to single-pass).

You can use First-Pass (Fast) instead of the "normal" First-Pass. Using the "Fast" mode does a less complex analysis during the first pass, which speeds up the process. With only 2 passes you will lose some quality when using First-Pass (Fast), but not too much. With more than 2 passes, you can use First-Pass (Fast) without losing any quality (at least you won't see any loss of quality ^^). IMO First-Pass (Fast) is fine :)

Sirber
13th October 2005, 22:31
:goodpost:

Good explanation of what fast first pass is :D

LoRd_MuldeR
13th October 2005, 22:33
:goodpost:

Good explanation of what fast first pass is :D

Don't laugh about me! I tried to explain as good as I can...

Sirber
13th October 2005, 23:08
I was serious... :(

People just can't take compliments... :p

LoRd_MuldeR
13th October 2005, 23:09
I was serious... :(

People just can't take compliments... :p

In that case, thanks :)

Sirber
13th October 2005, 23:10
In that case, you are welcome :D

wdmalik
13th October 2005, 23:42
Yea .. thnx man
u rock ... :)

wdmalik
13th October 2005, 23:45
Can u answer another question for me ...

Why do we get high compressibility values for low resolutions .. ?
and vice versa ...

Sirber
14th October 2005, 00:27
IMO, Blocks holds more datas and quantize more at the same time.

Wilbert
14th October 2005, 09:26
You can use First-Pass (Fast) instead of the "normal" First-Pass. Using the "Fast" mode does a less complex analysis during the first pass, which speeds up the process.
In what sense less complex?

Sharktooth
14th October 2005, 11:17
Well, most of the codec "heavy" routines can be disabled coz they are needed only for the final encode. Other options can be set to the lowest or fastest possible settings coz they're really not needed or they dont influence the analysis in a significant way during the first pass.

Inventive Software
14th October 2005, 11:20
As in the analysis is less complex. You know when you set the analysis complexity when you do the main encoding, Fast first pass does it a little less complexly.

stephanV
14th October 2005, 11:21
In what sense less complex?
Fast first pass uses faster motion search algorithms, and less block types IIRC.