NERO 7 Oct 26th release Edit; Now November 2nd

[acidsex]

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

[IgorC]

No information about new H.264 , but HE-AAC2 and spatial 5.1

[acidsex]

Kinda sucks you can buy it retail today but we have to wait a couple weeks to purchase upgrades.

[IgorC]

There're also some audio and video tutorials Nero Vision 4 ..etc http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Tutorials_Photo_and_Video.html

[lazyn00b]

Since the new Nero 7 supports Blu-Ray burning, does this mean that Recode will finally have a Blu-Ray compliant AVC profile?

[bond]

Since the new Nero 7 supports Blu-Ray burning, does this mean that Recode will finally have a Blu-Ray compliant AVC profile?i would guess, yes

[SeeMoreDigital]

While I'm excited about the prospect of Nero7.... Does this mean these will be the last versions of Nero 6 products: -

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5597/nero62nf.png


Cheers

[azsd]

nero recode 2
2.2.7.2
seems PSP profile removed from profile list?

[guada2]

Hello,

Just a question:

What is which differentiates Nero 7 from digital Nero pro 3.0.16?

And why digital Nero pro?

:thanks:

[fight2win]

nero digital pro just includes nero showtime and nero recode, so it is used just for encoding and playing media. Nero 7 includes a lot of stuff, all packed in a single suite!

[fight2win]

http://files.9down.com:8080/screenshots/N/nero7-retail-box.jpg

[guada2]

fight2win,
Thank you for this small information.

NOTE: Nero 7 is excellent, but request more resource than Nero 6.

[acidsex]

I managed to get my hands on a copy at the local Best Buy today and thus far, I am disappointed at least with Recode. For files I encoded before (352x240 ASP), I got 130+fps during second pass encode on my AMD 64 3700 and now, I get a crummy ass 30fps. Im going to uninstall everything and clean the reg and then reinstall and see if that does the trick. Ill be awfully pissed if I shelled out another $100 only to lose some major fps especially since we wont have HP AVC for a bit.

[IgorC]

Maybe quality was improved?

[acidsex]

"Maybe quality was improved?"

Possibly but what I dont understand is how before, I sustained 130+ fps but now with N7, it starts at 100fps and continually falls all the way down to 10 fps and this is for ASP 320x240, NOT AVC.

I guess Ill go back to 6.6 until the first update before I screw my system up.

[guada2]

It is astonishing your business.
I hope that you will manage to find the fault. Do nevertheless a previous restoration....

If not, thus make what return you from right

Bye acidsex, :)

[ChronoCross]

How did you manage to get 130fps? what settings do you use and do you do AVS or do you just encode straight from the vob?

[acidsex]

it was only mpeg-1 320x240 encoding directly from file (no avs). This just baffles the hell out of me why such a huge fps drop.

[azsd]

http://my1993.com/PpsDES/Cap/nero/neropic1.jpg

another ultra pack snap.

I can't found psp profile in new recode,lucky I have backuped prevous version and it can startup and do encoding fine.

the nero encoder plugins for foobar2k/cooledit/Audition and some frontends report the aac.dll can't be loaded at can't working now.

[royia]

Something really new about Nero Vision Express?

[SeeMoreDigital]

...the nero encoder plugins for foobar2k/cooledit/Audition and some frontends report the aac.dll can't be loaded at can't working now.Bummer!

[VA_TAPER]

any word on high profile from those who have v7?

[acidsex]

any word on high profile from those who have v7?

No High Profile. Its still in beta and we testers have yet to receive the 3rd round of testing yet.

[VA_TAPER]

No High Profile. Its still in beta and we testers have yet to receive the 3rd round of testing yet.

next question will either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray support HP?

thanks, chris

[acidsex]

I believe both will. N7 so far only supports B-R that I know of.

[VA_TAPER]

found my answer on avs forum:

"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."

looks like a little more wait for me, I'm doing a bunch of analog conversions (oop laserdisc, VHS, OTA, etc.) I've got them in mpeg-2 @ 20mb/s right now (imported via DVHS firewire) would prefer to go to AVC HP in a blu-ray compatible format for maximizing quality after cropping/noise reduction .....hopefully by 2006 I can be rid of my task!

thanks, chris

[acidsex]

found my answer on avs forum:

"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."

looks like a little more wait for me, I'm doing a bunch of analog conversions (oop laserdisc, VHS, OTA, etc.) I've got them in mpeg-2 @ 20mb/s right now (imported via DVHS firewire) would prefer to go to AVC HP in a blu-ray compatible format for maximizing quality after cropping/noise reduction .....hopefully by 2006 I can be rid of my task!

thanks, chris

I cant seem to find a decent priced DVHS recorder/player anywhere. The lowest I saw was $350 used on Ebay but this is something I dont want to chance on some auction thing. Any suggestions?

[VA_TAPER]

I cant seem to find a decent priced DVHS recorder/player anywhere. The lowest I saw was $350 used on Ebay but this is something I dont want to chance on some auction thing. Any suggestions?

I got mine at CompUSA on closeout for $150. it's the JVC 4000 model, I love it; amazing video conversion quality, blows any capture card, DV cam, etc. away. I've tried them all, and this machine trumps!

plus it'll take protected HD firewire in and output S-video 16:9 squished so I can capture with my DVD standalone, import and author a 16:9 DVD of special events/ movies not released on DVD.

peace, chris

[acidsex]

I got mine at CompUSA on closeout for $150. it's the JVC 4000 model, I love it; amazing video conversion quality, blows any capture card, DV cam, etc. away. I've tried them all, and this machine trumps!

plus it'll take protected HD firewire in and output S-video 16:9 squished so I can capture with my DVD standalone, import and author a 16:9 DVD of special events/ movies not released on DVD.

peace, chris


Awesome deal. Let me know if you find a place that has something like that. Its about time I start capturing some of the HD channels I keep paying for from my cable company. :)

[Ryokurin]

I've noticed that at least playing their demo my Athlon 3000 w/x700 pro and a Athlon 3200 w/6600gt can play the files back with ease (no higher than 60% processor usage) with 7 but neither could handle higher than 720p ono 6.6 I havent tried to encode anything yet to see if its any faster however.

[lazyn00b]

Just spent 100 bucks cold hard cash...

What do I find? NO Blu-Ray support AT ALL! Not only are there no Blu-Ray video profiles in Recode or Nero Vision, but it does not even seem to be possible to burn a BD "image" from data files. Even the friggin' MANUAL has no mention of Blu-Ray capabilities!!

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?

[acidsex]

Just spent 100 bucks cold hard cash...

What do I find? NO Blu-Ray support AT ALL! Not only are there no Blu-Ray video profiles in Recode or Nero Vision, but it does not even seem to be possible to burn a BD "image" from data files. Even the friggin' MANUAL has no mention of Blu-Ray capabilities!!

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?

I agree. Other than the Nero Home and Scout crap, I feel like I just paid $100 for a new GUI which is horrible btw.

From Neros Webpage:

Burning and Copying

* Full-o-meter automatically adjusts to you project type (DVD-1, DVD-5 or DVD-9)
* Intelligent size calculation will suggest a DVD if data will not fit on a CD
* New, easy-to-use GUI for Nero Express and Nero InCD
* Use Nero Scout to index your digital media making it easy to find the right video or song for your CD or DVD
* Support for Blu-ray (BD-RE and BD-R) media

Furthermore, Nero has pissed me off with their lack of ND capable players here in the states. It just seems as anymore, it is all hype and annoucing features and products that arent even here yet.

[SeeMoreDigital]

* Support for Blu-ray (BD-RE and BD-R) media[/B] Hmmm!

Anther classic case of the phrase "support for" not actually meaning "included now" :devil:

[JohnV]

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?
I understand you look at this from a doom9 member point of view. But I don't think it was ever a goal to put the high profile AVC encoder to the first release of Nero7 nor was Nero7 release any specific update target for NeroDigital (which is anyway also sold as a separate product). HighProfile AVC will come out as a normal update. I'll let people know when I know when it's due to be out. Shouldn't be very long time any more.

What comes to BD-burning, it will be there as soon as the first actual BD-devices hit the market.

[dvd_maniac]

@JohnV

I still have hundreds of DVDs that I want to Recode and I am also eagerly awaiting SMP support for AVC. Will I have to wait for the High Profile encoder update to get it? or will it be a feature included in an upcoming 7 release before HP hits?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi JohnV,

As a matter of interest, would you, or any of the other NeroDigital/Ahead guys, be able to help out Jean Le Feuvre out with this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=723709#post723709) issue?


Cheers

[JohnV]

@dvd_maniac
You have to wait for the updated Ateme AVC core in NeroDigital (the one which also has HighProfile support..)

@SeeMoreDigital
Is that a specific ND issue? Anybody asked from Haali?

[SeeMoreDigital]

@SeeMoreDigital
Is that a specific ND issue? Anybody asked from Haali?Hi JohnV,

With me not being very knowledgeable about such matters I don't know who is able to provide the information Jean Le Feuvre requires!

Do you think Haali could help?


Cheers

[daldrum]

I was wondering, is this normal to release a full new version (to get new customers) and then some weeks later to release the upgrade for the current customers? I don't understand because this new version couldn't be released if there were no current customers/owners of previous version. This kind of sucks.

Now, is there any speed/quality optimisation for the existing AVC profiles in the New Nero? If not, there is not much reason for me to buy the new version, IMO the only good thing I can see in the new Nero is the Custom Installation, which finally allows to deselect all the Nero apps I never needed.

[JohnV]

daldrum: I refer to my 2 answers above.
Nero7 release rather took the development emphasis somewhat away from Nero Digital during the Nero7 launch preparation months..
I will let people know here when the updated AVC core is integrated and going to be launched.

[foxyshadis]

While I'm excited about the prospect of Nero7.... Does this mean these will be the last versions of Nero 6 products: -

(big screencap)


Cheers
Nero 5.5 was updated many times (mostly compatibility and bug fixes, but some new features) after 6 was released, and 5 likewise before it, so I'd wager that 6 will get the same treatment. Feature upgrades of this version of recode are unlikely though.

[bond]

the nero homepage announces that nero7 is now ready to be bought. you can buy a serial online, but i dont see any nero7 download option till now

still it will be there soon so here are my questions:
- is the avc high profile encoder included?
- is the ps-aac encoder included?
- does the aac encoder still work with the existing wrappers? besweet etc..



"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."thats not correct

hd-dvd supports high profile (what this means exactly isnt known till now as the specs are not publically available till now afaik)

also there is no "h.264 standard profile" existing at all

[LeMoi]

the nero homepage announces that nero7 is now ready to be bought. you can buy a serial online, but i dont see any nero7 download option till now

still it will be there soon so here are my questions:
- is the avc high profile encoder included?
- is the ps-aac encoder included?
- does the aac encoder still work with the existing wrappers? besweet etc..

- it seems that not (just read previous posts :p)
- sorry i don't know what it is
- Nope, it's version 4.x and besweet doesn't work with it anymore :s

[bond]

why do you know that? i dont see any download link

[LeMoi]

I just tested with some link given some days ago on this forum before a mod delete them :p
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/aacenc32.jpg
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/aac.jpg

with these dll, BeSweet just says "Initializing" and stops...

and in log :
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
Error 84: error configuring bsn!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

[bond]

well lets wait for the official version before we draw any conclusions ;)

[acidsex]

Nero seems to be dragging feet for support of past customers while reeling in new sales of newer customers. Nov 2nd release better have HP AVC or the delay is not serving its current user base very well.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

[azsd]

finally nero 7 premium released today morning

aac.dll working now...
PSP Profile come backed

install script will change the "Nero\Nero 7" to strange "Nero 7\Nero 7" if you have changed setup path (select other none system drive).

[ndkamal]

The new nero is available on this link : http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/download_software.php?pak_lang=all
Enjoy !

[JoeBG]

finally nero 7 premium released today morning

aac.dll working now...
PSP Profile come backed

install script will change the "Nero\Nero 7" to strange "Nero 7\Nero 7" if you have changed setup path (select other none system drive).

Do you have a link?

I mean a working link. I found several links, but they don´t work.

[hpn]

394Mb! :) But they kindly offer a 100Mb lite version: link (ftp://ftp4.de.nero.com/software/nero7/)

[JoeBG]

Link does not work for me: "Empty Dokument" :(

[FFWD]

Does it support H.264/AVC High Profile encoding? How about HE-AACv2?

[acidsex]

anyone have a torrent of this as it seems IMPOSSIBLE to download at the moment.

[Sharktooth]

Does it support H.264/AVC High Profile encoding? How about HE-AACv2?
no...

[acidsex]

Wonder why the month in between the retail and web release. Hopefully they were that many bugs that it took a month to fix.

Finally got a d/l going but oh so slow. :)

[FFWD]

Nero seems to be dragging feet for support of past customers while reeling in new sales of newer customers. Nov 2nd release better have HP AVC or the delay is not serving its current user base very well.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.htmlCan anyone confirm if there's suppport for H.264/AVC High Profile (http://www.fastvdo.com/spie04/spie04-h264OverviewPaper.pdf) ?

[acidsex]

in another thread, it has been said that AVC High Profile is NOT included.

[Sharktooth]

It's not a surprise. No one said nero 7 would have included the high profile encoder. Also the beta testing on ateme encoder is still open... so...

[bond]

merged the two threads

- is the avc high profile encoder included?no

- is the ps-aac encoder included?yes

- does the aac encoder still work with the existing wrappers? besweet etc.. seems so

additionally:
- do the nero filters work outside showtime?
seems so too
- do multiple audio streams, subs, chapters work outside showtime too with neros filters?

- is it still for free if you update it every month?
- if yes, do we need to download 100mb every month?

- does it delete your harddisk (hey nero 6 was able to do that)?
? ;)

[Sharktooth]

mirrors:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Nero_Burning_Rom_d2228.html
http://slo.ru/more/999_0_1_0_M/
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Nero_Burning_ROM.htm

[sjchmura]

I got a copy at Fry's and am very disapointed.

I cannot - for the life of me get the 5.1 AAC encoding in recode to work. Worked fine on my old (upgraded 5.5-6-6.6 version). I think I have to "buy" the multichannel encoder.

If this is true - then WHY call it "ultra".

Reinstalling 6.6 with my serial number instantyly lets me take a HDTV TS with 5.1 -> MP4 with AAC 5.1/AVC

[acidsex]

Did you download the update as it might address your problem but its hard to tell since no change log has been posted yet.

Even with 7.0.1.12 I STILL low audio from AC3>HE-AAc

[sjchmura]

No, I need to install that. I have the "autoupdate on" and did not see it!!!! I wish there was a change log!!!

[AlexeyS]

Just installed demo. There is no AVC High Profile and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD burning here... :(

[SeeMoreDigital]

Jeez,

A 100MB download is way too big for my liking. I wonder why Nero have not offered a separate "NeroDigital" only download.... For all us users who don't particularily want Nero Burning ROM 7 along with various other non NeroDigital related tools: -

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8040/nero72ga.png


Cheers

[Doom9]

there's NeroDigital CE or something like that that only contains the NeroDigital tools.

[SeeMoreDigital]

there's NeroDigital CE or something like that that only contains the NeroDigital tools.I had a quick look for this... but could not find it....

I'll have another look ;)


Cheers

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

I am sorry, but I must ask this: in Nero Burning Rom 7.0.1.2, did the Nero AAC encoder updated with newest version Nero HE-AAC v2, or not.

[LeMoi]

It seems that NeroDigital Package hasn't been updated.
http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/download.php

[Sharktooth]

@KRP: :search: (yes there's even a thread search function!). hint: last post on page3.

[IgorC]

Ive bought a new DVD writer 16x and nero 7 was a fastest to burn at 8x. Excelent job. No more tears with my old DVD 4x :).

[ellery]

I have installed Nero Burning Rom 6.6.0.16 before, and I can use the ds filter of Nero in bsplayer to see AVC movie successfully.

Now, I have installed a new version of Nero (7.0.1.2) and I can't use it in my bsplayer to play avc movie anymore.

It's very strange because when I open showtime the movie is played successfully.

Has Nero blocked the usage in their new filter so that it can only be used in showtime?

[bond]

welcome to doom9!

plz read the rules again, especially the one about using search and reading up before posting, some people wrote already that it seems to work outside showtime

threads merged

[Ryokurin]

Just installed demo. There is no AVC High Profile and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD burning here... :(


Uh, I have a paid for copy and I have it. Unless everyone is talking about it in something else.


http://upload.ryokurin.net/files/nero.JPG

[acidsex]

Nope, thats the same thign everyone else has right now. That is Main profile AVC encoding. High profile is still in beta and as far as I know, hasnt been released to Nero yet for inclusion.

I still see no option for Blu Ray recording either.

[ChronoCross]

Far as I can tell nero 7 is a pile of ****. first lets start with the fact that recode crashed my video card that was fun. and now come to find out I can no longer use word as an editor in outlook because nero has corrupted something in the system.

I recommend staying away from this software for at least 6 months while they work out bugs.

[Daodan]

Err, there was a thread around here about problems with nero 7 NOT playing avc like nero 6.6 did even if it should.(I think that thread is gone so I'll post here) . Well, the solution is quite simple (if for some reason, like myself don't want to switch to ffdshow and want to keep nero7). You start installing nero 6.6 and it will do some temp directory (don't press cancel yet) (docs&setts\user\local settings\temp\Rarsfx0) and there you will find the right filter (in dsfilters) that you can overrwrite the one installed by nero 7. This solves the problem and it doesn't affect nero's functionality in any way (it seems).

[LeMoi]

And which filter should we replace to be able to play avc files without ffdshow (with nero 7 installed) ?

[Daodan]

It's NeVideo.ax. You should write over the the one that's installed in program files\common files\ahead\dsfilter.
And all should be ok. (I don't know if you need also the nero splitter because I use Haali splitter for mkv and mp4).

[LeMoi]

I replaced NeVideo.ax from Nero 6.6.0.16 to common files/Ahead/DSFilter and overwrote the old one, disabled h.264 decoding in ffdshow options, and i don't have video any more for mp4/mkv with h264 :/

[dimzon]

I replaced NeVideo.ax from Nero 6.6.0.16 to common files/Ahead/DSFilter and overwrote the old one, disabled h.264 decoding in ffdshow options, and i don't have video any more for mp4/mkv with h264 :/
You must have valid Nero6 serial in registry!

[LeMoi]

Ow, I deleted my serial when I installed Nero 7 ! How can i re-register the serial ?

[dimzon]

Ow, I deleted my serial when I installed Nero 7 ! How can i re-register the serial ?
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ahead\neroVision\Info]
"serial6"="valid serial here"

[LeMoi]

Doesn't work by me :(

[Daodan]

Well, it's pretty strange. I didn't do any of this reregistering stuff and all and it works just fine.
LeMoi, you can always try the easy way. Uninstall nero 7, install 6, and than reinstall 7, and THAN do the overwriting. It worked for me.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Doesn't work by me :(Is your PC "online" or "offline" when you try registering the key?

If you are online.... try registering the key.... offline ;)

[neo squidward]

I was very disappointed by Nero ShowTime and Nero Recode found in Nero 7.0.1.2 package.

Nero ShowTime when enabling hardware acceleration doesn't play some of my DVDs (I see a gray background instead of video output).

Nero Recode has the same Ateme h264 codec version 1.0.2.2 as NeroDigitalPro 3.1.0.16.

Russian language pack shows some texts broken in the installer, while choosing not to install russian support at all, the installer continues in the russian language regardless my choice.

While uninstalling Nero 7 leaves at least 20 its installed registry entries (the same goes for Nero 6.6.0.16 too, actuallly). Also I twice got an error of uninstalling (unregistering) some *.ax library. So far I have downgraded to 6.6.0.16 release.

[Rash]

Sorry. I know this isn't the place for bug reporting and I know I can get my ass banned for posting this. I just don't know anywhere else to post, so hoping someone from Ahead read this and reports, here it goes.

Nero has a bug when burning Audio CDs. It doesn't remove the 2segs between tracks. I set them to zero, Nero shows them zero, but burns them on the CD. Then when the CD is burned successfully it reports back the 2segs between tracks.

Oh, this is Nero 7.0.1.2, I downloaded from the website.

[ellery]

Err, there was a thread around here about problems with nero 7 NOT playing avc like nero 6.6 did even if it should.(I think that thread is gone so I'll post here) . Well, the solution is quite simple (if for some reason, like myself don't want to switch to ffdshow and want to keep nero7). You start installing nero 6.6 and it will do some temp directory (don't press cancel yet) (docs&setts\user\local settings\temp\Rarsfx0) and there you will find the right filter (in dsfilters) that you can overrwrite the one installed by nero 7. This solves the problem and it doesn't affect nero's functionality in any way (it seems).

I have tried your method and it works..........successfully, thank you.
Do you know the reason why the new filter doesn't work??
Quite strange. I guess that nero wants more people to use their showtime player.
Maybe later I will post a vote between whether people will choose between downgrade the filter or use the showtime player instead.

[ellery]

To some point I am quite disappointed for the new version of Nero, I use Nero for the following three reasons only:
1. use their recode to back up
2. use their AVC decoder filter in "any " directshow player, not just nero showtime.
3. use their buring rom to burn disc.

Now, in v7, the decoder filter only works in "show time", I even need to downgrade the filter. Nearly, no new feature on recode.
the only improvement I see is that I can save the log after burning a disc.

[Daodan]

They didn't even bother adding support for decoding ogg. But still, I use Nero mostly for burning and I would say there's a bit of an improvement.