NERO 7 Oct 26th release Edit; Now November 2nd

[acidsex]

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

[IgorC]

No information about new H.264 , but HE-AAC2 and spatial 5.1

[acidsex]

Kinda sucks you can buy it retail today but we have to wait a couple weeks to purchase upgrades.

[IgorC]

There're also some audio and video tutorials Nero Vision 4 ..etc http://www.nero.com/nero7/enu/Tutorials_Photo_and_Video.html

[lazyn00b]

Since the new Nero 7 supports Blu-Ray burning, does this mean that Recode will finally have a Blu-Ray compliant AVC profile?

[bond]

Since the new Nero 7 supports Blu-Ray burning, does this mean that Recode will finally have a Blu-Ray compliant AVC profile?i would guess, yes

[SeeMoreDigital]

While I'm excited about the prospect of Nero7.... Does this mean these will be the last versions of Nero 6 products: -

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5597/nero62nf.png


Cheers

[azsd]

nero recode 2
2.2.7.2
seems PSP profile removed from profile list?

[guada2]

Hello,

Just a question:

What is which differentiates Nero 7 from digital Nero pro 3.0.16?

And why digital Nero pro?

:thanks:

[fight2win]

nero digital pro just includes nero showtime and nero recode, so it is used just for encoding and playing media. Nero 7 includes a lot of stuff, all packed in a single suite!

[fight2win]

http://files.9down.com:8080/screenshots/N/nero7-retail-box.jpg

[guada2]

fight2win,
Thank you for this small information.

NOTE: Nero 7 is excellent, but request more resource than Nero 6.

[acidsex]

I managed to get my hands on a copy at the local Best Buy today and thus far, I am disappointed at least with Recode. For files I encoded before (352x240 ASP), I got 130+fps during second pass encode on my AMD 64 3700 and now, I get a crummy ass 30fps. Im going to uninstall everything and clean the reg and then reinstall and see if that does the trick. Ill be awfully pissed if I shelled out another $100 only to lose some major fps especially since we wont have HP AVC for a bit.

[IgorC]

Maybe quality was improved?

[acidsex]

"Maybe quality was improved?"

Possibly but what I dont understand is how before, I sustained 130+ fps but now with N7, it starts at 100fps and continually falls all the way down to 10 fps and this is for ASP 320x240, NOT AVC.

I guess Ill go back to 6.6 until the first update before I screw my system up.

[guada2]

It is astonishing your business.
I hope that you will manage to find the fault. Do nevertheless a previous restoration....

If not, thus make what return you from right

Bye acidsex, :)

[ChronoCross]

How did you manage to get 130fps? what settings do you use and do you do AVS or do you just encode straight from the vob?

[acidsex]

it was only mpeg-1 320x240 encoding directly from file (no avs). This just baffles the hell out of me why such a huge fps drop.

[azsd]

http://my1993.com/PpsDES/Cap/nero/neropic1.jpg

another ultra pack snap.

I can't found psp profile in new recode,lucky I have backuped prevous version and it can startup and do encoding fine.

the nero encoder plugins for foobar2k/cooledit/Audition and some frontends report the aac.dll can't be loaded at can't working now.

[royia]

Something really new about Nero Vision Express?

[SeeMoreDigital]

...the nero encoder plugins for foobar2k/cooledit/Audition and some frontends report the aac.dll can't be loaded at can't working now.Bummer!

[VA_TAPER]

any word on high profile from those who have v7?

[acidsex]

any word on high profile from those who have v7?

No High Profile. Its still in beta and we testers have yet to receive the 3rd round of testing yet.

[VA_TAPER]

No High Profile. Its still in beta and we testers have yet to receive the 3rd round of testing yet.

next question will either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray support HP?

thanks, chris

[acidsex]

I believe both will. N7 so far only supports B-R that I know of.

[VA_TAPER]

found my answer on avs forum:

"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."

looks like a little more wait for me, I'm doing a bunch of analog conversions (oop laserdisc, VHS, OTA, etc.) I've got them in mpeg-2 @ 20mb/s right now (imported via DVHS firewire) would prefer to go to AVC HP in a blu-ray compatible format for maximizing quality after cropping/noise reduction .....hopefully by 2006 I can be rid of my task!

thanks, chris

[acidsex]

found my answer on avs forum:

"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."

looks like a little more wait for me, I'm doing a bunch of analog conversions (oop laserdisc, VHS, OTA, etc.) I've got them in mpeg-2 @ 20mb/s right now (imported via DVHS firewire) would prefer to go to AVC HP in a blu-ray compatible format for maximizing quality after cropping/noise reduction .....hopefully by 2006 I can be rid of my task!

thanks, chris

I cant seem to find a decent priced DVHS recorder/player anywhere. The lowest I saw was $350 used on Ebay but this is something I dont want to chance on some auction thing. Any suggestions?

[VA_TAPER]

I cant seem to find a decent priced DVHS recorder/player anywhere. The lowest I saw was $350 used on Ebay but this is something I dont want to chance on some auction thing. Any suggestions?

I got mine at CompUSA on closeout for $150. it's the JVC 4000 model, I love it; amazing video conversion quality, blows any capture card, DV cam, etc. away. I've tried them all, and this machine trumps!

plus it'll take protected HD firewire in and output S-video 16:9 squished so I can capture with my DVD standalone, import and author a 16:9 DVD of special events/ movies not released on DVD.

peace, chris

[acidsex]

I got mine at CompUSA on closeout for $150. it's the JVC 4000 model, I love it; amazing video conversion quality, blows any capture card, DV cam, etc. away. I've tried them all, and this machine trumps!

plus it'll take protected HD firewire in and output S-video 16:9 squished so I can capture with my DVD standalone, import and author a 16:9 DVD of special events/ movies not released on DVD.

peace, chris


Awesome deal. Let me know if you find a place that has something like that. Its about time I start capturing some of the HD channels I keep paying for from my cable company. :)

[Ryokurin]

I've noticed that at least playing their demo my Athlon 3000 w/x700 pro and a Athlon 3200 w/6600gt can play the files back with ease (no higher than 60% processor usage) with 7 but neither could handle higher than 720p ono 6.6 I havent tried to encode anything yet to see if its any faster however.

[lazyn00b]

Just spent 100 bucks cold hard cash...

What do I find? NO Blu-Ray support AT ALL! Not only are there no Blu-Ray video profiles in Recode or Nero Vision, but it does not even seem to be possible to burn a BD "image" from data files. Even the friggin' MANUAL has no mention of Blu-Ray capabilities!!

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?

[acidsex]

Just spent 100 bucks cold hard cash...

What do I find? NO Blu-Ray support AT ALL! Not only are there no Blu-Ray video profiles in Recode or Nero Vision, but it does not even seem to be possible to burn a BD "image" from data files. Even the friggin' MANUAL has no mention of Blu-Ray capabilities!!

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?

I agree. Other than the Nero Home and Scout crap, I feel like I just paid $100 for a new GUI which is horrible btw.

From Neros Webpage:

Burning and Copying

* Full-o-meter automatically adjusts to you project type (DVD-1, DVD-5 or DVD-9)
* Intelligent size calculation will suggest a DVD if data will not fit on a CD
* New, easy-to-use GUI for Nero Express and Nero InCD
* Use Nero Scout to index your digital media making it easy to find the right video or song for your CD or DVD
* Support for Blu-ray (BD-RE and BD-R) media

Furthermore, Nero has pissed me off with their lack of ND capable players here in the states. It just seems as anymore, it is all hype and annoucing features and products that arent even here yet.

[SeeMoreDigital]

* Support for Blu-ray (BD-RE and BD-R) media[/B] Hmmm!

Anther classic case of the phrase "support for" not actually meaning "included now" :devil:

[JohnV]

Furthermore, there is STILL no Recode support for encoding AVC with dual core CPU: I see only 52% of my Pentium D 820 being used. STILL no High Profile, as already mentioned by others. What has Nero done to this program to deserve another $100?
I understand you look at this from a doom9 member point of view. But I don't think it was ever a goal to put the high profile AVC encoder to the first release of Nero7 nor was Nero7 release any specific update target for NeroDigital (which is anyway also sold as a separate product). HighProfile AVC will come out as a normal update. I'll let people know when I know when it's due to be out. Shouldn't be very long time any more.

What comes to BD-burning, it will be there as soon as the first actual BD-devices hit the market.

[dvd_maniac]

@JohnV

I still have hundreds of DVDs that I want to Recode and I am also eagerly awaiting SMP support for AVC. Will I have to wait for the High Profile encoder update to get it? or will it be a feature included in an upcoming 7 release before HP hits?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi JohnV,

As a matter of interest, would you, or any of the other NeroDigital/Ahead guys, be able to help out Jean Le Feuvre out with this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=723709#post723709) issue?


Cheers

[JohnV]

@dvd_maniac
You have to wait for the updated Ateme AVC core in NeroDigital (the one which also has HighProfile support..)

@SeeMoreDigital
Is that a specific ND issue? Anybody asked from Haali?

[SeeMoreDigital]

@SeeMoreDigital
Is that a specific ND issue? Anybody asked from Haali?Hi JohnV,

With me not being very knowledgeable about such matters I don't know who is able to provide the information Jean Le Feuvre requires!

Do you think Haali could help?


Cheers

[daldrum]

I was wondering, is this normal to release a full new version (to get new customers) and then some weeks later to release the upgrade for the current customers? I don't understand because this new version couldn't be released if there were no current customers/owners of previous version. This kind of sucks.

Now, is there any speed/quality optimisation for the existing AVC profiles in the New Nero? If not, there is not much reason for me to buy the new version, IMO the only good thing I can see in the new Nero is the Custom Installation, which finally allows to deselect all the Nero apps I never needed.

[JohnV]

daldrum: I refer to my 2 answers above.
Nero7 release rather took the development emphasis somewhat away from Nero Digital during the Nero7 launch preparation months..
I will let people know here when the updated AVC core is integrated and going to be launched.

[foxyshadis]

While I'm excited about the prospect of Nero7.... Does this mean these will be the last versions of Nero 6 products: -

(big screencap)


Cheers
Nero 5.5 was updated many times (mostly compatibility and bug fixes, but some new features) after 6 was released, and 5 likewise before it, so I'd wager that 6 will get the same treatment. Feature upgrades of this version of recode are unlikely though.

[bond]

the nero homepage announces that nero7 is now ready to be bought. you can buy a serial online, but i dont see any nero7 download option till now

still it will be there soon so here are my questions:
- is the avc high profile encoder included?
- is the ps-aac encoder included?
- does the aac encoder still work with the existing wrappers? besweet etc..



"Blu-ray supports H.264 high profile, but HD-DVD only supports H.264 standard profile. The end of chroma upsampling is reason enough to support BD."thats not correct

hd-dvd supports high profile (what this means exactly isnt known till now as the specs are not publically available till now afaik)

also there is no "h.264 standard profile" existing at all

[LeMoi]

the nero homepage announces that nero7 is now ready to be bought. you can buy a serial online, but i dont see any nero7 download option till now

still it will be there soon so here are my questions:
- is the avc high profile encoder included?
- is the ps-aac encoder included?
- does the aac encoder still work with the existing wrappers? besweet etc..

- it seems that not (just read previous posts :p)
- sorry i don't know what it is
- Nope, it's version 4.x and besweet doesn't work with it anymore :s

[bond]

why do you know that? i dont see any download link

[LeMoi]

I just tested with some link given some days ago on this forum before a mod delete them :p
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/aacenc32.jpg
http://xs50.xs.to/pics/05415/aac.jpg

with these dll, BeSweet just says "Initializing" and stops...

and in log :
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
Error 84: error configuring bsn!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

[bond]

well lets wait for the official version before we draw any conclusions ;)

[acidsex]

Nero seems to be dragging feet for support of past customers while reeling in new sales of newer customers. Nov 2nd release better have HP AVC or the delay is not serving its current user base very well.

http://ww2.nero.com/enu/index.html

[azsd]

finally nero 7 premium released today morning

aac.dll working now...
PSP Profile come backed

install script will change the "Nero\Nero 7" to strange "Nero 7\Nero 7" if you have changed setup path (select other none system drive).

[ndkamal]

The new nero is available on this link : http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/download_software.php?pak_lang=all
Enjoy !

[JoeBG]

finally nero 7 premium released today morning

aac.dll working now...
PSP Profile come backed

install script will change the "Nero\Nero 7" to strange "Nero 7\Nero 7" if you have changed setup path (select other none system drive).

Do you have a link?

I mean a working link. I found several links, but they don´t work.