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sisera
8th October 2005, 21:02
Hi there!

I just started to make backups of my DvDs. Though having those nice Guides here on Doom9, i'm stuck. I tried several hints from the forum but my problem seems to be persistent. Having some more questions, I hope, someone might give me a hand.

My first movie i picked to backup is: Matrix
Yeh, I've read this is a hard one :-/

What I want to do:
- Region free
- PUO-free
- No extras
- keep English and German audio
- keep English and German subpicture
- kill some logos
- make the whole thing fit to a DvD-R

That was my basic Idea. At the moment I'd be happy, if I could remove those extra PGCs I don't need as well, but I'm not sure which to keep and which to dump.

What I did:
- DvDDecrypt to Harddisk
- Stripping menu and subpicture using IfoEdit
- killed the VOBs containing the extras manually
- blanked the extras PGCs with PGCEdit
- made the DvD skip those logos by pointing them to new empty cells with PGCEdit
- removed those logos with VOB-Blanker (At least I hope they're gone!)
- made a DGIndex Project which demuxed my 2 audio tracks
- used 3 versions of IfoEdit to get my TMPEG Template
- made about 15 different new videos by trying many many hints using TMPGEnc
- remuxed them by using my different versions of IfoEdit
- and - finally - banged my head against the wall because my audio is always out of synch for about 30 seconds (which seems to be exactly the audio delay stated by DGIndex)

So what the hell am I doing?
I followed the "basics"-guide "stripping unwanted extras" as carefully as possible to me and it simply doesn't seem to work.

Please help :confused:

setarip_old
8th October 2005, 21:18
Hi!

For what you've described as what you wish to accomplish, you could simply use DVD Shrink (freeware) in "Re-author mode" (By doing so, you'll only lose the menu)...

battscrew
9th October 2005, 04:35
Hi!

For what you've described as what you wish to accomplish, you could simply use DVD Shrink (freeware) in "Re-author mode" (By doing so, you'll only lose the menu)...

Absolutley the easiest way.

sisera
9th October 2005, 05:57
Thanks for your replies but that's no option to me. Sorry I forgot to write that down in my first post. And even if it would work here, I'd have the same problem with my next DvD. The content I want to keep is always "as much as possible". If there is some free space after copying the movie, I'd like to keep some features, too. Any other proposals?

What I never want to loose: movie, english and german audio and subpicture, menu, original chapter positions
What I'd always like to dump: logos, all additional menus (other languages), previews on other movies, warnings not to copy the DvD, end credits
Whad I'd dump if there would be not enough space: extra features

That would by my basic wish list for any DvD.
Somehow this should be possible, I think.

Abond
10th October 2005, 14:37
I can sudgest you the way I am usually doing. With the mehod (although it is outdated) I had only one fail.
Firstly I am opening the decripted DVD in DVDShrink and after disabling the streams I do not want, look at the percentage in shrinking. If it is less than 80%, I try to disable different extras with TitleSetBlanker, until the percentage is over 80%. To look what to blank I am playing different vobs with MPC. Now it is important, after blanking to restore VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP (IIRC), otherwise you can have error trying to open the DVD with blanked titles in DVDShrink. Hopefully it works for you. I think if you are familiar with PGCEdit it is even easier. (I am not)

setarip_old
11th October 2005, 01:30
@sisera

The only thing in your "wish list" that isn't addressed directly by using DVD Shrink in "Re-author" mode is the primary menu (Chapters ARE preserved in "Re-author" mode). Your need/desire for retaining the primary menu can be addressed in several different ways. This is one of them:

Active menu after re-authoring in DVD Shrink


http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=185976

(Don't be misled by the statement "Do not re-author")

The method described works quite nicely, with two caveats, one significant and the other easily resolved:

1) The menu MUST be contained (as the "VTS_0x_0.VOB") in the same .VOB sequence as the movie

2) The .VOB sequence MUST be "VTS_01_x.VOB" (If this is not originally the case, you can change to this numbering sequence AFTER using DVD Shrink to rip the menu/movie sequence of .VOBs (by selecting the menu/movie .IFO instead of the "VIDEO_TS.IFO") and before using (the freeware version of) DVDFab's "Create Video Manager" to create the (intentionally) missing "VIDEO_TS.IFO" and "VIDEO_TS.BUP" files

sisera
11th October 2005, 05:37
@setarip_old

Now this seems to be worth a shot to me. I'll try this asap.
What about the quality using DvD Shrink? TMPGenc provides very convincing results.

setarip_old
11th October 2005, 05:55
What about the quality using DvD Shrink?

You may be pleasantly surprised - especially if you use the "extra quality" settings ("AEC")...

Div_X Factor
16th October 2005, 13:24
DVDReMake is a great program to take out unwanted menu and extras items. DVD Rebuilder can take out subs and audio and encode to DVD-R with great quality compared to transcoding.