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himi-doom9
7th October 2005, 18:09
Hi,

How to, Double Sided DVD to ONE DVD-R? I have Goodfellas original that I´d like to backup to ONE DVD-R how to do this?

Cheers Himi!

rendez2k
7th October 2005, 20:13
I don't think DVD Rebuilder will join the videos, but DVD Remake Pro would I think. Then process with the output DVD Rebuilder to make it DVD-R size. Never tried it, but should work in theory!

apfraats
7th October 2005, 20:38
It is possible with DVD-REMAKE-PRO, latest version.

I know that for sure, they even have this topic decribed on the dimadsoft site. "How to put two DVD's together keeping original menu's".

So this is no problem, however when you combine two DL dvd'd you therotically gan go up to 17GB of required space..... Putting this on a 4.35 GB DVD can be done. But if you want to keep the original quality is almost near to impossible........ Even with the best compression program and/or encoder.

So first try to see how much space you need, and if it's reasonable to expect a good end result..... In my opinion you need an around 4.000Mbps bitrate AVERAGE and use full VBR so demanding scenes can claim the bitrate they needed, if you want quality.

Although some people say to have good results with even as little as 2500 AVRAGE bitrate, but I never have had a result, I called good with such low average bitrate. Bitrate is still the MAIN factor for quality but no assurance for it.

laserfan
7th October 2005, 21:11
A freeware way to do this is with IfoEdit (and companion VobEdit). Go to the IfoEdit home page and look in Guides there.

Once joined, RB-Pro can re-encode to a size that will fit on a single disc.

BTW the above assumes you want to put the Movie Only together on one disc, which starts w/Movie Only titlesets of the two discs, from say DVD Shrink or Decrypter.

Rippraff
7th October 2005, 23:43
Another easy freeware way but without a menue (just the movie) is with DVD-Shrink:
Switch in Reauthor Mode and join both sides, set it to "no compression" and encode the result with RB.

Cu Rippraff

setarip_old
8th October 2005, 00:00
@himi-doom9

Hi!

An easy-to-use commercial solution is DVD2One...

feedback
8th October 2005, 01:17
I don't think DVD Rebuilder will join the videos, but DVD Remake Pro would I think. Then process with the output DVD Rebuilder to make it DVD-R size. Never tried it, but should work in theory!
The guide apfraats mentioned is right Here. (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/ht_merge_full.php)
Although, jdobbs recommends no preprocessing of files for RB, I have noticed hardly any problems coming to the fore with DVD Remake Pro.

It seems their have been tons of preprocessing problems with Shrink and some other software used with RB. However, as I indicated almost none...maybe none... with DVD Remake Pro.

The problem PROBABLY is people not knowing what they are doing with the other programs. So they end up having problems with their backup process then they come crying about a Bug in DVD Rebuilder to jdobbs.

This is all just my opinion.

Regards,:)

FerretZone
8th October 2005, 01:26
I have not had problems using DVD Remake Pro prior to Rebuilder. Now I have had problems with DVD2One with some movies (Aviator), but not others (Star Wars Trilogy). Then again, I have seen 5 different original versions of House of Flying Daggers for Region 1 and they all have had different content and structure.

himi-doom9
8th October 2005, 07:47
Guys! Thanks a lot! This will help indeed!

In this case the movie is double sided BUT only single layer.

Cheers!

TheSeeker
9th October 2005, 04:23
Guys! Thanks a lot! This will help indeed!

In this case the movie is double sided BUT only single layer.

Cheers!

Are you sure its not just a dvd where one side is the widescreen version and one side is the full screen version? You dont see too many two sided dvd's where the movie is spanned across both sides....

hajj_3
9th October 2005, 14:58
some older movies when dvds first came out were on 2 sides, my mate has 2 classic movies, cant remember what they are, dvd5's not dvd9's, i wanted to copy that with a program, havent found a program to do it properly yet.

himi-doom9
9th October 2005, 19:31
Hi,

Thank you for the input, however this title really is DVD-5 and only one version of the movie ie. no widescreen and pan.

I used DVD Shrink to RIP to DVD-9 so it won´t encode anything. Then from the two resulting two ISO files I opened them one at a time in DVD Shrink and added
the titles from them in reauthor mode. The tricky part was to create a nice "cut" between them. There is a cosmetic anoying result with this procedure. It gives you two titles on DVD. I´d like to merge the two title sets to on. Nero 7 has an application for this. The problem with this title and nero is it gives me an open error on one of the VOB files on one the ISO´s. Anyone has an idea for this?

I´will try DVD Remake as suggested above in this thread.

Cheers

steptoe
9th October 2005, 19:44
What software did you use to rip this DVD-5, there shouldn't be 2 separate ISO images, unless the software is set up to create a maximum size of 4.5GB images or you're using FAT32 which has a maximum filesize of 4GB

himi-doom9
9th October 2005, 20:03
@steptoe

Hi, have you read the thread?

One movie, double sided, single layer = each side = one DVD-5 = 1 ISO for each side. :)

TheSeeker
10th October 2005, 21:10
Hi,

Thank you for the input, however this title really is DVD-5 and only one version of the movie ie. no widescreen and pan.

I used DVD Shrink to RIP to DVD-9 so it won´t encode anything. Then from the two resulting two ISO files I opened them one at a time in DVD Shrink and added
the titles from them in reauthor mode. The tricky part was to create a nice "cut" between them. There is a cosmetic anoying result with this procedure. It gives you two titles on DVD. I´d like to merge the two title sets to on. Nero 7 has an application for this. The problem with this title and nero is it gives me an open error on one of the VOB files on one the ISO´s. Anyone has an idea for this?

I´will try DVD Remake as suggested above in this thread.

Cheers



DVD Remake is a fantastic program. It can combine two dvd's or both sides of a two sided dvd and still keep both dvd menu's. Its really quite essential. It can also blank out buttons to features that you have cut out, and many many other useful things.

himi-doom9
11th October 2005, 08:00
Hi,

Yes I understand that. But how can I achieve one title instead of two on the resulting DVD?

steptoe
11th October 2005, 09:22
Oh yes, I forgot silly me. Double-sided equals two rips ... duhhhh


I used the following method to rip Stephan Kings IT which is on 2 discs, as its nearly 3 hours, converted it to one image, then ran it through DVD-RB. No problems :

Run each ripped side through DVD Shrink in reauthor mode, and saving in two separate folders, using the 'No Compression' options and also making sure its saved as hard disk files in each named folder. Say Side1 and Side2

Make sure that you can match the end of side1 with the start of side2

"It" was easy as there is a handy pause in the movie. I also did Das Boot which is two disks again and nearly 4 hours this time, again a handy if slight pause before going to another scene made life easy for me

If you have access to DVD2One, use the 'join' mode and run it through DVD2One using the 'Seamless - append to next titleset'

This will join both images together and put it in another folder, where you can then point DVD-RB to it and off you go


It sounds complex, but it isn't really, just a pain the first time you try and and get to grips with the different stages

Msc_Alex
11th October 2005, 09:22
You could use the targetsector option (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=482090#post482090) and set it to half and proces each side first. Then join the two disk to one dvd-5, your problem could be this (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvd-structure.htm). As you can see you would get after renaming a VTS_01_10.vob which isn't possible.

curious d
27th April 2006, 15:52
Sorry for bringing back an old topic, but I couldn't find an answer elsewhere. I have been backing up two discs with DVDShrink and DVD-RB Pro without any problem and I tried to do it with a dual sided disc that requests the user to turn over the disc. When I view the backup disc, it stops at this point and can not proceed any further. Is there a freeware method of eliminating this block so that I can proceed to the next part of the disc? Thanks.

JohnGalt
27th April 2006, 16:28
you could use dvd-shrink in re-author mode. import both VTS's into a new project, and just drop them one after the other onto the disc. make sure that you have shrink set to no compression, then output that disc to your hdd. process this new disc in rb.

you won't have menus this way, of course, but you'll have both titles on the disc and it should go striaght from the one title to the other. or if not, you should be able to hit "next track" on your remote to proceed to the 2nd title.

himi-doom9
27th April 2006, 17:15
Hi,

I like these kind of discs "intact" regarding the number of title sets. ie. I merge those into one title. I´ve done it with Nero don´t know if there are any freeware for this.

Cheers

curious d
27th April 2006, 22:52
you could use dvd-shrink in re-author mode. import both VTS's into a new project, and just drop them one after the other onto the disc. make sure that you have shrink set to no compression, then output that disc to your hdd. process this new disc in rb.

you won't have menus this way, of course, but you'll have both titles on the disc and it should go striaght from the one title to the other. or if not, you should be able to hit "next track" on your remote to proceed to the 2nd title.

I tried this actually. The next track doesn't work on my software DVD player. But I just found out that it actually plays through. Sorry for bring up this post. For all previous 2 DVD mergers, the next track had work. As long as I have access to the next DVD, I'm good.

JohnGalt
27th April 2006, 23:06
hmm. well, maybe that 'insert next disc' bit has a flag set that doesn't allow the 'next track' function. like annoying previews at the beginning of a disc that you can't skip sometimes. perhaps shrink preserved that flag. if that's the case, I *think* IFOEdit allows you to set flags and consequently correct that. But I don't really know what I'm talking about. I'm sure that someone else could answer you far better than I.