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ron spencer
28th January 2006, 22:13
let us know when it is out...will it be a new version # or the same with the fixed code. Was gonna try a DL...should I wait?

r0lZ
28th January 2006, 22:42
I will chanhge the version number. Perhaps 0.6.3.1.

You can burn a DL safely. The bug is only in the GUI. If you click the Cancel button in the LB selection dialog, the dialog is closed, but the main burn window has the OK and Cancel buttons disabled. It is not possible to close the burn GUI, and you have to kill PgcEdit.
But if you continue the burn normally, it should work. I haven't changed the way the IFOs are patched and saved, nor the mkisofs and ImgBurn parameters (though the way mkisofs is called is now different, and the bug when passing the LB value for a DL-R to ImgBurn is fixed.)

DiggnSaeg
29th January 2006, 00:08
Just one quick question:
After using "Blank out all VTST Titles", saving and reopening a DVD...
Why am I asked to verify the "number of streams (in whole DVD)"?

r0lZ
29th January 2006, 00:16
The verification of the number of streams at startup was requested by several users. It's not mandatory, and you can switch this option off via the options menu.

ron spencer
29th January 2006, 00:41
thanks...will wait for new version...thanks again for everything

jsoto
29th January 2006, 02:30
Thanks once more... Incredible application.

I don't agree with the "0" starting in the release numbering. Seems it is a beta, unstable, and this is confussing... I really think you should change to 1.anything (or better 6.3 if you want)

jsoto

DiggnSaeg
29th January 2006, 08:03
The verification of the number of streams at startup was requested by several users. It's not mandatory, and you can switch this option off via the options menu.
I do believe that this procedure is very meaningful, too.

I'll rephrase my question: Why is there something to fix after blanking
out all VTST titles? Isn't the number of streams adjusted as well when
using this function?

blutach
29th January 2006, 10:12
@DiggnSaeg

What happens is that the stream needs to stay in place as it may need to be selected. jsoto first brought this to our attention - see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=90502).

So after blanking, the domaion attributes are "out" and need to be re-instated.

BTW: Thanks r0lZ for another Herculean effort!

Regards

blutach
29th January 2006, 10:19
Thanks once more... Incredible application.

I don't agree with the "0" starting in the release numbering. Seems it is a beta, unstable, and this is confussing... I really think you should change to 1.anything (or better 6.3 if you want)

jsotoI call it 6.3 myself. It is LONG past 0.x.x

Regards

r0lZ
29th January 2006, 10:34
OK, I understand the message.
But, really, I can't jump from 0.6.3 to 6.3 or even 1.0 just for a small bug fix!
And I suppose there are still some bugs in the current version. So, I prefer, for now, to consider it still as a somewhat unstable version.
But it's OK. The next major release will be 1.0.
Thanks for your support, guys!

r0lZ
29th January 2006, 12:48
0.6.3.1 (January 29, 2005)
F. Burn DVD: If the user cancels the layer break selection dialog, the dialog is closed, but the OK and Cancel button of the main burn dialog are still disabled. There is no way to close this dialog, and the user must kill PgcEdit.
This problem has been introduced in v0.6.3, and is now fixed.

Thanks to Tobi for the bug repport!

jinjin_jp
29th January 2006, 14:09
[DVDShrink plugin v1.4 released!
DVDShrink Remote Buttons: Added the options to use the Prev Chapter button and/or the Return button to go back to the beginning of the previous title

Is it possible to add the option "When in chapter 1, allows 'Prev chapter' button to go back to the last chapter of the PREVIOUS title?" , or like this?
This operation would generally need many push of buttons (for jump to the beginning of PREVIOUS title and many push of next chapter buttons),
compared with that for going back to the beginning of the current title, only two push of buttons(Next and Prev Chapter) is needed.
I think it is convinient and useful when continuous movie divided multiple storys as VTS.
I'd very glad if could.

r0lZ
29th January 2006, 14:19
Well, it's difficult to do! I have to jump to a new VTSM menu, or to modify completely the pre-commands of the titles to be able to jump to a specific chapter.
Also, there is a problem with the titles with little dummy chapters at the end (added to be able to use the remote to skip to the end of the title by several authoring programs). In this case, if I jump to the last chapter, the navigation will return immediately to the beginning of the next title. It is of course possible to test the length of the last chapter, and use the previous one if is's a tiny chapter of less than 1 sec, but again, it's not so easy to do.
Maybe later, if I have some time...

jinjin_jp
29th January 2006, 15:32
@r0lZ
Thanks for reply and explanstion. I understood its difficuly.

r0lZ
29th January 2006, 15:53
Well, I though about this suggestion. If I implement it, I think I will totally rewrite the Remote Buttons function, to redo completely the authoring of the DVD. It should be easier for me to rebuild all commands from scratch.
I may even add a function to import a selfmade menu with buttons to jump directly to any title.
But, of course, I need some time to do it. And, for now, I'm a little bit tired of programming!

spyhawk
29th January 2006, 18:15
Well, I though about this suggestion. If I implement it, I think I will totally rewrite the Remote Buttons function, to redo completely the authoring of the DVD. It should be easier for me to rebuild all commands from scratch.You don't have to do this, r0lZ. Only a few commands are needed to the existing Remote Buttons function.

Let's say we reauthor 3 titles, and 'Check all' in DVDShrink plugin macro, except to change the selection to "When in chapter 1, allows 'Prev chapter' button to go back to the beginning of the PREVIOUS title".

Now we want to go to last chapter of previous title.

From Title 2 to Title 1:
1. In VTS1, PGC 1, insert these 4 pre-commands before gprm(0) = (mov) 1:
if ( gprm(0) == 2) then { Goto line 3 }
Goto line 5
Set gprm(0) =(mov) 1
(JumpVTS_PTT) Jump to TTN1, Chapter x, where x is last chapter of non-blank cell.
From Title 3 to Title 2:
2. In VTS2, PGC 1, insert these 4 pre-commands before gprm(0) = (mov) 2:
if ( gprm(0) == 0) then { Goto line 3 }
Goto line 5
Set gprm(0) =(mov) 2
(JumpVTS_PTT) Jump to TTN1, Chapter x, where x is last chapter of non-blank cell.

You see the pattern now - in lines 1 and 3? Line 1 checks the gprm(0) value from the next title. Line 3 is a duplicate of line 5.

If we want to go from Title 1 to last chapter of Title 3, just insert similar commands to VTS 3, PGC 1.

The only thing left is to check for the real last chapter in the macro.

r0lZ
30th January 2006, 00:39
Well, that's right. It's relatively easy to do. But anyway, I don't like the default authoring of DVDShrink, especially his use of gprm(0).

I have already made the new function for the plugin. It works well. The original authoring is completely deleted, and redone from scratch. Only the original SetSTN commands are kept unchanged.
IMO, it's better and easier to read now.

If you want to test it, here it is: dvdshrink_plugin_v2.0beta1.zip (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/beta/dvdshrink_plugin_v2.0beta1.zip)
(The old method from v1.4 is still in the current beta, and has not been modified.)

jinjin_jp
30th January 2006, 15:43
Where should I campare the result between v1.4 and v2.0b1?
I tried to use both for DVDShrink Remote Buttons, and compared PGC command, but I can't understand the difference.
Should I look at anything else?

For example,
--------------------------------------------------------------
DVD "C:/DVD_Test/test_shrink_plugin/VIDEO_TS/"
DVD-TEXT General Name: ""
Provider ID: ""
Number of VTS: 3

VMG (VIDEO_TS.IFO)
------------------
VMG , First-Play PGC
********** pre commands:
1 if ( gprm(0) == 1 ) then { Goto line 4 }
2 if ( gprm(0) == 2 ) then { Goto line 5 }
3 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 1
4 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 2
5 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 3
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

VMGM , LU 1 (en):

VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 1 (dummy) TitleM - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 (JumpSS) Jump to First Play PGC
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 2 (dummy) - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 NOP
2 if ( gprm(1) != 1 ) then { Goto line 4 }
3 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 1
4 if ( gprm(1) != 2 ) then { Goto line 6 }
5 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 2
6 NOP
7 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 3
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

VTS 1 (VTS_01_0.IFO)
--------------------
VTSM 1: no menu.

VTST 1:

VTST 1 , 1 TTN 1 (9:29) Title 1 - Chapters: 3, Programs: 3, Cells: 7
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 1
2 (SetSTN) Set Audio stream = 0
3 (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, on
********** post commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 1
2 (CallSS) Call the First Play PGC, resume cell 1
********** cell commands:

VTST 1 , 2 TTN 1 (dummy) - Chapters: 0, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(1) =(mov) 3
2 (CallSS) Call the VMGM PGC 2, resume cell 1
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

VTS 2 (VTS_02_0.IFO)
--------------------
VTSM 2: no menu.

VTST 2:

VTST 2 , 1 TTN 1 (8:01) Title 2 - Chapters: 3, Programs: 3, Cells: 8
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 2
2 (SetSTN) Set Audio stream = 0
3 (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, on
********** post commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 2
2 (CallSS) Call the First Play PGC, resume cell 1
********** cell commands:

VTST 2 , 2 TTN 1 (dummy) - Chapters: 0, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(1) =(mov) 1
2 (CallSS) Call the VMGM PGC 2, resume cell 1
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

VTS 3 (VTS_03_0.IFO)
--------------------
VTSM 3: no menu.

VTST 3:

VTST 3 , 1 TTN 1 (7:32) Title 3 - Chapters: 3, Programs: 3, Cells: 3
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 0
2 (SetSTN) Set Audio stream = 0
3 (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = 0, on
********** post commands:
1 (CallSS) Call the First Play PGC, resume cell 1
********** cell commands:

VTST 3 , 2 TTN 1 (dummy) - Chapters: 0, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(1) =(mov) 2
2 (CallSS) Call the VMGM PGC 2, resume cell 1
********** post commands:
********** cell commands:

r0lZ
30th January 2006, 16:19
Use the new function "Redo Authoring!". The old function "DVDShrink Remote Buttons" is still there, unchanged.

jinjin_jp
30th January 2006, 16:51
Thanks very much. This new function is very convinient and useful for me.

Grave
1st February 2006, 17:41
menu editor:
would it be possible to have ability to copy menu/button layout and commands separately? by layout i mean button coordinates only, so e.g. i could copy the layout withou t overwriting target button commands
some other ideas:
-direct number input in addition to position/size sliders
-shift-click on slider could jump by 10/or whatever number has been set in options)
-any chance of displaying menu subs overlays? (to see how to adjust button positions and sizes without cutting off subs overlays)

goonix
1st February 2006, 21:44
The last point is really a good idea: Display and export of the menu subpic.
I think jeanl can help, because he is trained very well by programming his nice DVDSubedit.

goonix

jeanl
1st February 2006, 23:08
You're going to have to convince r0lZ on that one... Showing the highlights is something I suggested to r0lZ a while back, but it's not that easy (overlaying isn't easy, apparently, in tcl-tk).
Jeanl

r0lZ
2nd February 2006, 14:19
would it be possible to have ability to copy menu/button layout and commands separately? by layout i mean button coordinates only, so e.g. i could copy the layout withou t overwriting target button commandsYes, it's possible. Will do it soon.

-direct number input in addition to position/size slidersPossible, but not so easy. The method I use to move two sliders at the same time when the user changes one value is somewhat incompatible with direct input. Anyway, if I implement your first suggestion, I suppose this one is less important.

-shift-click on slider could jump by 10/or whatever number has been set in options)I think it's easy enough to set the slider manually to a value near the one you want, and then use the steps by 1 to fine-tune the value.

-any chance of displaying menu subs overlays? (to see how to adjust button positions and sizes without cutting off subs overlays)Not easy. I have a lot of things to do to implement it, and, as jeanl said, I'm not sure I have the functions to display overlays with Tcl/Tk. But it's in my todo list. However, I have many things that I want to do first...

Cela
2nd February 2006, 18:12
How can I put (import) a small, simple menu (authored with DVDlab, containing a background picture, some text and one or two buttons) in front of existing menus?

Why would I want to do this? In some occasions I would want to add a preface message (like "The following menus will talk about Act 1 - Act3 but this disk will only contain Act 1") and wait until the user accepts the message.

When that preface-menu is in place, I would know how to update the navigation.

Thanks for your help.

j-fish
2nd February 2006, 19:26
Hey,i have a problem with Pgcedit,i've added a button and when i click it,it does what it should(switch Subpic),but the button doesnt highlighted when i'm selecting or activating it.
I made sure it uses the same color scheme like the original buttons in
the menu and still doesnt effect it.
Also tried to change Color scheme for the original buttons wont effect them and kept them as they were at first place.
thanks.

frank
2nd February 2006, 19:36
Button/function Create new cell ignores the setup of Copy original VOB to Backup folder.
In every case the vob will be saved.

r0lZ
2nd February 2006, 20:02
How can I put (import) a small, simple menu (authored with DVDlab, containing a background picture, some text and one or two buttons) in front of existing menus?

Why would I want to do this? In some occasions I would want to add a preface message (like "The following menus will talk about Act 1 - Act3 but this disk will only contain Act 1") and wait until the user accepts the message.

When that preface-menu is in place, I would know how to update the navigation.

Thanks for your help.IMO, the easiest way to do that is to create a dummy title with just a black frame, and import it in PgcEdit as a "First-play clip" (see in the Title menu.) This clip will be played automatically when the DVD is inserted. Not very interesting, since it is black.
But you can also import the menu in the same titleset: right click on the dummy title you have just imported and select "Import Menu". Then, remove all VM commands from the imported menu, and change the button command to jump back to the first-play PGC (JumpSS-FP.) Be sure to set the Root Menu type of the new menu to the PGC with the button (right click on the PGC and select Set Menu Type, and tick Root menu.)
Modify also the last post command of your dummy imported title to call the new menu (CallSS-VTSM-Menu.)
Now, when the DVD is inserted, the black frame will be shown, and then your menu. Finally, the navigation will continue normally.

r0lZ
2nd February 2006, 20:05
Hey,i have a problem with Pgcedit,i've added a button and when i click it,it does what it should(switch Subpic),but the button doesnt highlighted when i'm selecting or activating it.
I made sure it uses the same color scheme like the original buttons in
the menu and still doesnt effect it.
Also tried to change Color scheme for the original buttons wont effect them and kept them as they were at first place.
thanks.You should use another color scheme. Select a color scheme that is not used by the other buttons. Then, edit that color scheme, and change the transparency value for ALL colors. You should see a colored rectangle as highlight.

r0lZ
2nd February 2006, 20:06
Button/function Create new cell ignores the setup of Copy original VOB to Backup folder.
In every case the vob will be saved.Thanks Frank. I know this bug. Will fix it...

jinjin_jp
5th February 2006, 00:32
I tested with using "Redo Authoring!", and found the problem when replaying by PowerDVD5.
I think its cause is bug of PowerDVD, because there is no problem when replaying by other PC players(MediaPlayerClassic, JetAudioPlayer).

Example:
I created DVD-Video by DVDShrink Re-Author Mode, which has 3 titles and each title has 3 chapters.
I edited it by function "Redo Authoring!" of dvdshrink_plugin_v2.0beta1, of which setting is default except for 'When the Previous Chapter button is pressed during playback of chapter 1..., jump to the last chapter of the precious title'.

Problem:
It is only when replaying by PowerDVD5.
After jumping directly to other title (using right-click, not using Prev/Next button, etc.),
(1)when pressing the Next Chapter button, jump to chapter 1 of title 1 from last chapter of all titles(1,2,3).
(2)when pressing the Previous Chapter button, jump to last chapter of title 1 from chapter 1 of title 1.
_(problem is only from title 1, but no problem from other titles(2,3))

Cause and the reason why I suspected(it may be different):
I thought PowerDVD may reset the value of gprm as 0, when jumping directly (using right-click, not using Prev/Next button, etc.).
So,
(1)when pressing the Next Chapter button, at VMG_PGC_1,
*** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(2) =(mov) 0
2 Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(4:Title number in volume)
3 Set gprm(0) +=(add) 1
4 if ( gprm(0) > gprm(1) ) then { Set gprm(0) =(mov) 1 }
5 LinkPGCN PGC 4
in line 4, if gprm(1)=0, always "gprm(0) > gprm(1)", so "gprm(0)=1", so title 1 is always replayed.
And,
(2) when pressing the Previous Chapter button, at VMG_PGC_3,
*** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(2) =(mov) 0
2 Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(4:Title number in volume)
3 Set gprm(0) -=(add) 1
4 if ( gprm(0) < 1 ) then { Set gprm(0) =(mov) gprm(1) }
5 LinkPGCN PGC 4
in line 4, if gprm(1)=0, only when "gprm(0)=0"(i.e. must be replayed title 3 after 1), "gprm(0) = gprm(1) = 0", so title 1 is replayed after title 1.

Method to solve:
I copied the command of line 1 of FirstPlay ”Set gprm(1) =(mov) 3”,and pasted before line 1 of VMG_PGC_1,2,3.
*** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(1) =(mov) 3
2 Set gprm(2) =(mov) 0 or 1
3 Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(4:Title number in volume)
4 ***
5 ***
6 LinkPGCN PGC 4
I tested it, so there was no problem.

As menshioned at first, it is the problem of PowerDVD5, not of PgcEdit.
Thanks.

r0lZ
5th February 2006, 01:38
Thanks for the info, jinjin_jp.

In my authoring, gprm(1) holds the number of titles in the DVD. Since it's a DVDShrink reauthored DVD, it's also the number of titlesets. The gprm 1 is set only once, in the FP-PGC (but is read severat times, when it is needed to know the number of titles.) Therefore, this value should never change.

There is obviously a big bug in PowerDVD.

I suppose that right-clicking in PowerDVD calls a menu with an option to play any title, by number. Right? Maybe, as you think, it resets all GPRMs to 0 when doing so. Doesn't matter, IMO, because you should test it with the regular DVD controls, not with the software players specific features.

Anyway, there are other bugs with PowerDVD, for example with the time seekbar, disabled when there is a Next, Prev or GoUpPGCN link pointing to the same PGC.

jinjin_jp
5th February 2006, 03:10
I suppose that right-clicking in PowerDVD calls a menu with an option to play any title, by number. Right?
Yes, like below.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9439/doom9060205powerdvd6kg.th.jpg (http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doom9060205powerdvd6kg.jpg)

Doesn't matter, IMO, because you should test it with the regular DVD controls, not with the software players specific features.
I think so.
But other software players except for PowerDVD have no problem.
(I just tested only MediaPlayerClassic and JetAudioPlayer.)
I replay the DISC on both DVD player(TV) and software player(PC), so I wanted to solve.

Anyway, there are other bugs with PowerDVD, for example with the time seekbar, disabled when there is a Next, Prev or GoUpPGCN link pointing to the same PGC.
I heard like this before, but I remember the problem with WinDVD, not PowerDVD. I would confirm it.

Edit(Add)
I read these threads before.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=683265#post683265
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=683457#post683457
And I can use time seekbar of PowerDVD5, now.

r0lZ
5th February 2006, 12:06
Right! It's WinDVD that has problem with the seek bar.
Anyway, use Media Player Classic. It is good, powerful, free, and has a well designed interface, not one of those horrible and incpmprehensible skins!

jinjin_jp
5th February 2006, 12:34
It was found to solve PowerDVD itself.

There is another method of jumping to title/chapter which is to select from DVD browser like below.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7755/doom90602052powerdvd0vy.th.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doom90602052powerdvd0vy.jpg)
This method seems to have no problem.

Edit(Add)
(1)About directly jumping to title/chapter,
___after jumping to chapter 1 of any titles, the problem is occured.
___after jumping to chapter 2,3,,, of any titles, the problem isn't occured.
(2)By setting PUOs to check "title play(4)",
___after directly jumping to chapter 1 in same title, the problem is solved.

outspoken
6th February 2006, 18:54
i'm having an issue where my previews no longer auto-start when in trace mode.

i can click on the cell and issue CTRL+P and the preview will start. but if i use RUN from the beginning, no previews will come.

i have clicked 'automatically start preview playback' and 'use preview' are checked under the preview menu.

r0lZ
6th February 2006, 19:29
You must tick also "Open Preview Automatically When Playing a Cell".

outspoken
7th February 2006, 01:52
You must tick also "Open Preview Automatically When Playing a Cell".

ahh, thank you. i missed the setup menu in trace panel.

Butterfly_JP
7th February 2006, 12:41
Nice to meet you.
An application error occurred in PgcEdit0.6.3.1

I did Ripping with an FILE mode of DVDDecrypter.
I connect a title in NeroRecod2 and compress it.
When it makes New 'Play All' Title in PgcEdit0.6.3.1, it is an application error.

Error log.
invalid command name "AddBCDtime"
invalid command name "AddBCDtime"
while executing
"AddBCDtime [string range $thiscellpbentry 4 7] $totalpbtime"
(procedure "::utils::create_playall_pgc" line 107)
invoked from within
"::utils::create_playall_pgc"
(menu invoke)

I deleted PgcEdit0.6.3.1 after uninstallation, and New 'Play All' Title was made when I tried it in PgcEdit0.6.2 again.
0.6.3.1 and 0.6.2 are default setup, respectively. Will any setting be necessary in PgcEdit0.6.3.1?

Thank you for your consideration

bigotti5
7th February 2006, 14:07
In my authoring, gprm(1) holds the number of titles in the DVD. Since it's a DVDShrink reauthored DVD, it's also the number of titlesets. The gprm 1 is set only once, in the FP-PGC (but is read severat times, when it is needed to know the number of titles.) Therefore, this value should never change.

There is obviously a big bug in PowerDVD.

I suppose that right-clicking in PowerDVD calls a menu with an option to play any title, by number. Right? Maybe, as you think, it resets all GPRMs to 0 when doing so. Doesn't matter, IMO, because you should test it with the regular DVD controls, not with the software players specific features.

I think it is not a bug in Powerdvd - its in the specs

A limitation is that all GPRMs are cleared when a title search or title play command is used, when the stop (or eject) command is used, and when the player is turned off.

Jim Taylor - DVDDemystified

there are other bugs with PowerDVD, for example with the time seekbar, disabled when there is a Next, Prev or GoUpPGCN link pointing to the same PGC

Same here - if previous- und nextpgcn pointing to the same PGC is set there must not be a VTS_TMAPTI table - therefore time seek bar is disabled

I made a quick test with scenarist - if you define previous and nextpgcn pointing to the same PGC there is no VTS_TMAPTI written.
If you create a second pgc in a title you cant have a VTS_TMAPTI too.

Presuming scenarist complies with the specs.

r0lZ
7th February 2006, 14:28
That's right, Butterfly. I have found this bug, too, and it is already fixed in 0.6.4beta1 (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/beta/PgcEdit_winexe_0.6.4beta1.zip).
Thanks for the bug report anyway!

r0lZ
7th February 2006, 14:42
I think it is not a bug in Powerdvd - its in the specs:devil: Stupid specs! But thanks for the info! I ignored that!
BTW, I understand now why the "Title Play or Search" PUO is set in many PGCs of commercial DVDs.
Anyway, I will change the DVDShrink plugin to hardcode the number of titlesets. Pitty! :(

Same here - if previous- und nextpgcn pointing to the same PGC is set there must not be a VTS_TMAPTI table - therefore time seek bar is disabled

I made a quick test with scenarist - if you define previous and nextpgcn pointing to the same PGC there is no VTS_TMAPTI written.
If you create a second pgc in a title you cant have a VTS_TMAPTI too.

Presuming scenarist complies with the specs.In this case, I'm not so sure it's right.
IMO, it is normal to remove the VTS_TMAPTI when the title is a true non-sequential title, with several non-dummy PGCs. But setting the Prev/Next/GoUp PGCN pointing to itself does not change the structure of the PGC at all, so, IMO, it should still be considered as sequential. And even if there are additional dummy PGCs in the same TTN, since all cells are defined in the same PGC, it should work, too.
Also, I've found that setting a link to itself is accepted w/o the time seek problem with all standalone players I've tested so far.
Do you have an information in DVD Demystified on this subject?

r0lZ
7th February 2006, 15:20
OK, done. The modified DVD Shrink plugin (v2.0 beta 2) can be found here (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/beta/dvdshrink_plugin_v20b2.zip).
Jinjin JP, it should work with the right-click method in PowerDVD.

However, I have not changed the Prev/Next/GoUp PGCN links method. If it's really a problem, I might add a new cell at the very beginning of each PGC, and another one at the end so that it should be possible to use the prev and next buttons without the links. But I have no solution to enable the return button to go back to the prev title w/o adding a GoUp link. Someone has an idea?

Butterfly_JP
7th February 2006, 15:36
I downloaded PgcEdit0.6.4beta1.

Thank you for r0lZ.

jinjin_jp
7th February 2006, 15:52
@r0lZ
Thanks very much for the new ver. of DVDShrink plugin.
It functions fine even when using PowerDVD.

About GoUp, do you mean anything instead of GoUp link?
If so, there is introduced about method which goes back to the prev title when RootMenu button is pressed.
It needs edit command one-by-one, compareed with one-click operation of PgcEdit's.

In DVDShrink plugin v2.0 beta2, displayed "When the Title button is pressed...", is it "the Title Menu" like v1.4?

bigotti5
7th February 2006, 16:02
when the title is a true non-sequential title, with several non-dummy PGCs.....there are additional dummy PGCs in the same TTN, since all cells are defined in the same PGC, it should work, too.


One PGC - it does not matter if a second is dummy or non-dummy

Three types of titles exist: a monolithic title meant to be played straight through (one_sequential_PGC title), a title with multiple PGCs for varying program flow (multi_PGC title), and a title with multiple PGCs that are automatically selected according to the parental restriction setting of the player (parental_block title) (see Figures 6.20 and 6.21). One_sequential_PGC titles are the only kind that have time maps for timecode display and searching.

Do you have an information in DVD Demystified on this subject?

No, unfortunately this is the only information about time map and One_sequential_PGC titles.

found this in
Ralph LaBarge - Dvd Authoring and Production

DVD-Video titles can include up to 99 Part_of_Title (scenes) within a PGC. SPRM 7 stores the current Part_of_Title number with values between 1 and 99. If the viewer changes scenes by using Next, Previous, GoUp, or numeric keys on the remote control, SPRM 7 will be updated with the new Part_of_Title number. The default value for SPRM 7 is 1. Note that SPRM 7 is only valid for One_Sequential_PGC titles.

Not sure if it has to do with our issue.

A next or prev PGC link is only valid within the same title and Scenarist does not write a time map if you define a next- and/or a prev PGC regardless if it is the same PGC. Think scenarist is very close to the spec.

r0lZ
7th February 2006, 16:52
Thanks again, bigotti5.
Seems there is no way to use the prev/next/goup links w/o loosing some functionalities of the player.
Maybe I'll write a DVDShrink plugin 3.0 later, with complient methods only.

@jinjin_jp:
Yes, using the Root menu button is a solution. But I don't like it, since this button is not supposed to jump back to the previous title.

"When the Title button is pressed..." means "When the Title Menu button is pressed...", of course.

blutach
7th February 2006, 22:54
My main bugbear with PowerDVD v6 is that you have to turn subtitles on through it's right click menu (or the keyboard shortcut). It does not respond to a menu which eventually selects a valid stream in SPRM2. Anyone else see this problem?

Regards

bigotti5
8th February 2006, 00:22
It does not respond to a menu which eventually selects a valid stream in SPRM2. Anyone else see this problem?

Agree - my version ignores SetSTN subtitle commands too....

JDlugosz
8th February 2006, 01:38
As you can read in this thread (http://www.mmbforums.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6433), I'm annoyed that my DVDs created with DVD Lab Pro will jump to something if the Next Chapter button is pressed when it's already in the last chapter of a title. It jumps to the beginning of some title, having nothing to do with the presentation order of the titles in the main menu.

First, does anyone know for sure what is the correct standard behavior? If this is a quirk of my Samsung player, and not widespread, I won't worry about it. Standard or not, if it affects all Samsungs, then I need to deal with it.

Someone had suggested using DVDRemake to disable the button while in the last chapter. So I came here to ask: can I do that with PgcEdit? I can see it shows me a table of chapters ("cells") for a title, but I don't see any way to edit prohibited operations within a cell (I found one that appears to be global).

Any suggestions?

--John