Visual editing tool for editing menus...

[kisk]

Are there any tools out there that can emulate DVD menus and allow me to make certain selections unselectable? ie ... I get rid of a certain audio track... I'd like to then change the audio selection menu to make it where I can't select that option. In addition, if the track I removed was the default, change that too to make a different audio track the default. Same with stuff like extras.

If I'm not mistaken, IFOEdit would be able to do this, but I was hoping there was something that would be a little easier to navigate.

Thanks!

[Taelon]

PgcEdit does all that, check the guides on the homepage and 2COOL's guides here.

[kisk]

awesome, just downloaded it and its doing extactly what I want! Just removed a few buttons successfully :)

[zacoz]

@kisk

Not sure, based on your post, if you actually removed (deleted) buttons or utilised the functionality to Hide Buttons. Hiding Buttons having a higher level of compatibility.

r0lZ provides some explanation of the risks of deleting buttons here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=91521&perpage=20&pagenumber=2#post626366) - in case you haven't already seen it.

[r0lZ]

[EDIT:] The end of this thread is completely OT. If you are interested by the beginning of the discussion, don't read further!

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He, gnutellafan, can you stop this prozelythizing, please. What you say is not constructive. It's only your opinion.

[r0lZ]

To be honest, I think the posts of Dimad are corrects. For example, in the first thread you mention, an user ask what tool he can use to do something specific. Dimad says that DRM can do the work. It's true, and relevant to the question.

But here, although the subject is similar, the discussion is now on why it is better to hide a menu button. It is exact that DRM is also able to hide a button, but gnutellafan comes a bit too late. What he says is not relevant to the current evolution of the thread. Also, I don't like his "easy (ier)". I have never discredited DRM (which is an excellent program, with some good points, and some less good ones.) I will appreciate the same comportement from others. (BTW, as far as I know, Dimad has never discredited PgcEdit. We are rival, OK, but in mutual respect.)

@kisk, zacoz and everybody reading this thread: Sorry to be OT!

[gnutellafan]

rOLZ, he asked a question and I answered it. I think its unfortunate the DRM gets overlooked here at doom9 since its not freeware. PgcEdit is a great tool and its free, but frankly myself and many others do not find it as intuitive as DRM. Why else would people pay for something if PgcEdit did the same thing with the same ease for free. I apoligize for the way my post was worded. It certainly is wonderful that you are willing to give your time to create a tool that many people find very helpful. It has been awhile sice I fired up PgcEdit, so maybe its time I give it another look. Again, I apoligize

[Dimad]

... as far as I know, Dimad has never discredited PgcEdit. I've never done it and have no intentions and reasons to do it as I have nothing but respect for what you've done on PGCEdit. It may have its "sharp corners" but it is A LOT of work (beeing there with DRMP - know ;) ) which can be only respected.

@kisk, zacoz and everybody reading this thread: Sorry to be OT!Same from me.

[r0lZ]

@gnutellafan:

I don't tkink DRM is overlooked here only because it is not free. Simply, I have chosen Doom9 to be the 'unofficial PgcEdit forum'. It's normal, in this circumstance, that many of the threads here are about PgcEdit. Like another forum (http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/index.php?c=10) is all about DRM. What will you say if I post a message on every thread at cdr-zone to say that, of course, PgcEdit can do it (easier)?

The intuitive feeling of DRM or PgcEdit is not a good subject of discussion, as it's purely subjective. Honestly, the thing I don't like in DRM is exactly what you criticize in PgcEdit. For example, why not use the standard DVD commands? When a DRM user needs to use another, more standard tool, or just understand a technical discussion, it is completely lost! And what should I say on wrong concepts like 'VMG Titles'?
BTW, if you want to return to PgcEdit, just to see, use v0.6.1 (to be released soon). I have revamped the menus completely, for a better 'intuitive' feeling. As you can see, I know the limitations of PgcEdit.

Anyway, thanks for your reply. Let's work together, and not against each other. The enemy is the DVD complexity, not the program we don't use.

@Dimad:I've never done it and have no intentions and reasons to do it as I have nothing but respect for what you've done on PGCEdit. It may have its "sharp corners" but it is A LOT of work (beeing there with DRMP - know ;) ) which can be only respected.Thanks for that.
BTW, Dimad, I have written PgcEdit originally because of the limitations of IfoEdit. At this time, I didn't know that you were writing something similar, otherwise I would probably never begun this work.

[2COOL]

My sincere utmost respects to both of you, r0lZ and Dimad. Without people like you guys, there would never be progression and like my sig says...

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7922/withoutvision1ij.png (http://imageshack.us)

Let be known now that this thread documents the meeting of two great programming minds speaking their personal kind thoughts amongst each other. :) May we see more to come from their software!

[blutach]

Ditto 2COOL.

Regards

[gnutellafan]

[QUOTE=r0lZ}

I don't tkink DRM is overlooked here only because it is not free. Simply, I have chosen Doom9 to be the 'unofficial PgcEdit forum'. It's normal, in this circumstance, that many of the threads here are about PgcEdit. Like another forum (http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/index.php?c=10) is all about DRM. What will you say if I post a message on every thread at cdr-zone to say that, of course, PgcEdit can do it (easier)?[/QUOTE]

rOlZ,
I simply have felt like DRM has not had the exposure it deserves on a diverse board, doom9 doesnt even post releases for DRM on the front page (I think PgcEdit gets front page coverage). So I have not been trying to attack you or PgcEdit, and as I said above I have great respect for you and your program as well as a world of thanks, things are much much easier then when I started years back with ifoedit. The only thing I find truely unfortunate is that so many talented people are working in parellel recreating what others are doing when they could work together to develop the tools more rapidly and add features that none of us had dreamed of.
I also want to apoligize to dimad, by my seemingly pushy nature I have poorly represented DRM.
For all of the great coders here at doom9 the community can never thank you enough.

[r0lZ]

You're right. It should be preferable to join our efforts. Personally, I work in conjunction with Jeanl, Jsoto, and many others, not including the guys who wrote the PgcEdit guides and docs.
The choice of Dimad to sell his work is, of course, comprehensible, but it has a price. In a commercial project, you cannot work with others, unless you pay them. This is why I prefer the open source philosophy. Everybody can read my code, and use it freely, including to help me.

Though I am not responsible for the choices of Doom9, I think it's a good point to keep a good and dynamic site/forum like Doom9 to the free community. That doesn't mean that DRM must be excluded, and the forum is open to Dimad (and you ;))

I really don't know why I have brought out your first message in this thread. I was probably irritated once too many. Forget it, and keep cool.

[EDIT] Hum, I realize that some posts on this thread are now deleted, including your first post. This discussion doesn't make sense anymore. It's probably time to close it. Thanks for your comprehension.