DVD rebuild 1.0 worth it???

[johnhamler1]

Actually I am using the non pro version, which is "good", but sometimes give me a undersized back p (3.99 gig), and on some movies, error to rebuild cuz the original DVD has to many small files.

what are the advantages to have the pro version.I would like to be able to erase the FBI warnings, without using a Vblanker software.and erase the THX commercials...and all other crap warnings telling you if u do a copy u go to jail!!!

i would like to resincronize the sound with the picture, cuz some DVD here in europe are messed up!!!the sound come 1-2 seconds after the actor speak....it s very annoying!

i would like to be able to set my file size...and not find some movies resized at 3.99gig after 5 hours of encoding.

i would like to see better picture of the DVD rebuilder website!.@Jdoobs, I can not click on the print screen you have on your website

10 bucks instead of 30 bucks? does it worth it?

(i am only interested to back up DVD movies, and I use HC which is really great!!!)

[Numer0bis]

Well sure it's worth. IF you use the product on a daily base as I do, don't you feel guilty because a person has put so much time on very great product and he hasn't received anything from you yet? I would.

Besides the Pro version can preview / edit dvd segments so voblanker wouln't be needed anymore.

Come on 10 bucks is really nothing and after the final realese you will be in the charter team (means you get lifetime update)!

So push the paypal button :)

[jdobbs]

Interesting... Are you modifying your source before it is sent to DVD-RB? The reason I ask is that you say you have gotten 3.99GB output. I almost always do straight 1:1 copies (all extras, etc.), and in several hundred backups I've never been undersized. In fact they are all within 1% of 4.32GB (the target).

[johnhamler1]

i will go on the dial-up and purchase ur software(I dont buy anything on the WIFI for security reason).
test period is over!( and i will save 20 bucks ;)and get free update for life, how old are u jdobbs?stop smoking and eat lot of vegtables;))

yes jdobbs, I have erased the warning with TITLESET blanker, on ring2 italian pal version.and come out with 3.99gig.

did the same thing with blade trinity, and came out with 4.25 gig.

with dv rebuild pro,i understand u can blank some files.
so if u suggest to not modify the source, why DVD rebuild has this function?

oh, BTW, the ring2 were full of these small s...ty files...probably inserted in the DVD to mess with copy softwares!!!???
blade 3 doesnt have these small files.
it s why i ask if there is a possibility to increase the output size on the pro version, cuz by experience I can see(when decrypting it) if a movie will come out undersized or not.

[jdobbs]

You can change the target size in both the freeware and the Pro versions with the TargetSectors setting in your REBUILDER.INI file.

[jdobbs]

with dv rebuild pro,i understand u can blank some files.
so if u suggest to not modify the source, why DVD rebuild has this function? I don't suggest one way or the other. I'm only telling you that I don't have sizing problems. The point is to try and isolate what is causing the undersizing.

[Sir Didymus]

yes jdobbs, I have erased the warning with TITLESET blanker, on ring2 italian pal version.and come out with 3.99gig.


This is the second post today reporting undersize problems due to the adoption of the wrong application for the title preprocessing.

No need to tweak Target Sectors... You just need to trow that blanking application away into the Windows Trash.

Give VobBlanker a try (if your title have no ILVU parts)...
Never had a problem with it...

...ha, little advertisement...

At the end of the process, when you will get a perfectly sized backup, hit the donate button... ;)

Edit: also the audio synch troubles you have are due exactely to the same reason (pre-processing with an old, improper, and never updated application). Here in Italy I have never seen an original DVD authored with such a severe type of audio trouble: it will be immediately returned to the store; on the other hand the bad pre-processing may lead almost surely to the reported condition...

Cheers,
SD

[jptheripper]

oh and know you can blank parts, but if the fbi warning is in the menu , you wont be able to blank it with either the free or pro versions

[feedback]

I have heard DVD Remake Pro is good at that sort of thing, ie. blanking. However, I almost always use movie only mode in DVD Rebuilder Pro. so it is not a concern for me.

Regards,:)

[johnhamler1]

no, it s the original dvd which is f... up!
the italian sound is al right, but the original sound(english)is not synchronized.


scandalous? yes, it is!!!

the company who encode these dvds in italy, dont care about the result.
they charge u 20-35 euro for an unwatchable movie.if u are deaf is alright with the subtitle,but my problem is i was born with 2 ears( and no helmet!)

I dont know if u listen at the sound track or not (I bet you do), but why should i buy DVD movies???when i am unsure of the sound quality?

is it to the customer to go on doom9, to ask if there is a way to resynchronized their work???

I should post this problem somewhere else , but I want be clear that it is not my encoding which has f...up the sound.

by chance it is only on a very few movies that I have seen this scandalous problem

[buzzqw]

just to add

DVD Rebuilder is worth every single € !!!

BHH

[johnhamler1]

I have now the PRO version after sending by paypal the equivalent of 2 big mac menu!!! :).


can u help me:
how do i set the QLB matrix I loved so much,? it put me back to a MPEG.(i use HC)
and I can not change the setting to QLB in the settings.it doesnt give me any choice except low bit rate,high bit rate,...

I have a configuration setting file in the same folder where my HC was and I linked DVDpro to this file where I have several HC version(with quality best, matrix QLB,...), but now I guess the Rebuild pro version has the right of way for the the matrix...and my config file is not taken in consideration.

the rest, I think I will have to discover by myself the extra of this PROversion.

[jdobbs]

Just choose QLB from the Matrix menus. It is one of the choices installed.

[feedback]

You should also checkout the freeware DVD Rebuilder Matrix Editor (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=103) by Rockas.
It give one the ability to encode short segments with different Matrices to see how they look without having to wait for an entire encode.

You can also extract a Matrix from a movie (compliments of neuron2) and use it on a different movie if you like. There are links to other Matrices around that you can try after you become more familar with DVD-RB Pro., also.

Oh, there is also the ability to test short segments with filters like Undot().
Check it out later.

Regards,:)

[johnhamler1]

nice! first encoding with the PRO version, "million dollar baby "R2 pal, 4.31 gig.Italian version.

but heh, 2 h rebuild instead of 30 minutes with the free version, how is that possible?

[jdobbs]

I've never seen a two hour REBUILD before, 15-20 minutes is more common. Is your disc close to full?

[johnhamler1]

yes, my hard drive was close to full.
will clean some files, and I will try again tonight.

I will not work on other softwares until I am familiar with the proversion.
I think the best for me is to stay with the matrix in the pro version.
I understand that the pro version convert automatically of matrix based of the bitstream?

a question: what is this convertion from 4:3 to 16:9

what 's the point to convert a 4:3 movie which has been cut, and cut it more to have a size of 16:9????

I have a spiderman, which is 4:3, do you mean I can go back to the original version, would be fantastic!!!!

[jdobbs]

Sometimes you will run into a movie that is letterboxed in 4:3 format. Lots of "classic" movies are done that way. It is exceptionally annoying when you watch it on a 16:9 HD screen. The picture will be centered on the screen with borders above, below, and to each side.

That option resizes and modifies the source so that it is 16:9 anamorphic. Nothing is removed from the picture except part of the black border above and below the encapsulated widescreen.

[blutach]

And that 4:3 hard matte to 16:9 anamorphic is pure genius! I have a projector and hate changing the display back and forth.

Thanks jdobbs :)

Regards

[johnhamler1]

have a 4:3 pjt too, so how this can help me???.
I have not seen any old movie in 4:3...

rainy sunday here in middle of Europe(for who cares), did shaun of the dead pal version, 4.31 gig and post processed the puo warning.

the encoding is sloooooow, 7to 8 hours with HC15beta!but result is great!

[Mr. Monte]

Worth every dollar..thanks jdobbs

[jdobbs]

have a 4:3 pjt too, so how this can help me???.
I have not seen any old movie in 4:3...

rainy sunday here in middle of Europe(for who cares), did shaun of the dead pal version, 4.31 gig and post processed the puo warning.

the encoding is sloooooow, 7to 8 hours with HC15beta!but result is great! Unfortunately the price you pay for quality is time. The good news is that processors/encoders just keep getting faster. It wasn't that long ago that most MPEG-2 encoders would get 5 or 6 frames per second... and now CCE will do more than 70fps. On my AMD XP 3200+ I get about 30fps with HC on the first pass (40 on the second).

[johnhamler1]

I have 25-35 fps on my laptop pentium M 1.7. wta s the best processors do u advice, for movie encoding?.
question, this prepare process is much much longer.
I went from 2 pass to 1 pass, even 1 pass take a while due to the prepare phase.
why?

I dont know if many of you have a projector with a "screen" of 100 inches or more, but I dont see any difference in my copied movies, unless I use the 3x zoom, and in this case, i see the pixels...

I have tested the "shaun of the dead"brit movie R2 pal, and I am very happy with the quality even for the extras.
I used QLB for the extra, ...better than the free DVD rebuild version where only one matrix is offered and not 2-3 in same time.

When the DVD pro version will be sold commercially at 30 bucks?

and it is poosible to insert a countdown???so we can know how long the encoding will take







[11:38:28] One Click encoding activated...
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[11:38:28] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- HC encoder selected
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 105,232 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 8,802 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 45,902 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3,520 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 1,657,923 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
- PREPARE aborted.
Aborted.
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[11:39:31] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- HC encoder selected
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 105,232 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 8,802 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 45,902 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3,520 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 1,657,923 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
- Processed 107.4MB ILVU section...
- Processed 208.8MB ILVU section...
-- Processed 137,168 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 1,575,991 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 129,592 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 245,808 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 26,144 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 80,566 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 8,326 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 51.1%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,463/1,970Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,145,466KB
- Analyzing VTS_02 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):24,825
-- Sampling 180 of 8802 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=9.1: 16,143
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.4: 39,986
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=6.3: 22,697
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5.4: 25,968
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5.7: 24,735
- CQ Value selected: 5.7
- Analyzing VTS_03 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):10,915
-- Sampling 72 of 3520 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=8.3: 3,623
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=0.1: 23,597
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=0.2: 23,597
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=0.5: 23,597
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=1.2: 21,061
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2.7: 8,656
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=1.9: 12,508
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2.2: 10,702
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2.1: 11,139
- CQ Value selected: 2.2
- Analyzing VTS_04 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):1,147,571
-- Sampling 2748 of 137168 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.1: 1,266,129
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.5: 1,120,571
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.3: 1,193,844
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.4: 1,149,716
- CQ Value selected: 3.5
- Analyzing VTS_05 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):332,586
-- Sampling 2592 of 129592 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=10.0: 233,934
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4.5: 543,216
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=8.6: 283,464
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=6.4: 383,814
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=7.9: 319,888
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=7.3: 338,686
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=7.5: 331,483
- CQ Value selected: 7.5
- Analyzing VTS_06 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):60,550
-- Sampling 528 of 26144 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=11.1: 48,319
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=6.6: 93,333
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=12.2: 43,561
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5.0: 123,513
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=12.6: 41,983
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4.3: 143,167
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=12.7: 41,658
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=4.1: 150,326
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=12.8: 41,343
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.9: 157,753
- CQ Value selected: 11.1
- Analyzing VTS_07 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):19,877
-- Sampling 168 of 8326 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=10.7: 11,147
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=1.6: 86,803
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=8.9: 13,556
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=3.9: 28,778
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=6.3: 18,993
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5.8: 20,257
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=5.9: 19,840
- CQ Value selected: 5.9
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 64.2%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,602/600/1,970 Kbs
[12:07:54] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 28 minutes.
[12:08:30] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 1

[jdobbs]

The PREPARE phase always takes longer when doing one pass encoding -- because that is where the prediction is done. You give up a little time in PREPARE so you can save a lot of time in ENCODE.

I made changes to the prediction routines to reduce the number of prediction passes needed with CCE. Unfortunately (I hadn't noticed) it appears is has increased the number of passes when using HC... sigh. I've fixed that for the next version.

[johnhamler1]

thanks Jdobbs,

I just finished the encoding with 1 pass and fast encoding, took 2.5 hours, half of my usual time with 2 pass. But i guess better to go back to 2 pass if i want the best quality.

I am just doing some tests (for "fun") as this is new to me.I have increased my output size of 50% (between original setting and maximum of 4.46gig), as I have 2 movies which came out at 4.31gig, I think I will have something between 4.46 and 4.31 this time., (4.38gig???)

[johnhamler1]

run time error '9'

subscribe out of range...

is it my fault?this pop out at 90 % of my rebuild process.

did a full encoding, error 9 again
in the interleaving ILVU object


?????

[Rafterman]

As to the question as to whether DVD-RB pro is "worth it". Even if you only use it now and again surely 10 bucks is very little to reward all the effort, time and ongoing development and support of the product not to mention that its an excellent tool.

[johnhamler1]

yes, thanks, it is an excellent tool...I have purchased the pro version a few days ago.did 2 excellent back up!

but now I have a bug with the 3 rd movie I have backed up!!!!

[jdobbs]

Were you doing an OPV encode against a multiangled source? If so, don't. Try using 2 pass VBR.