HC encoder, release 016

[Amnon82]

Look at page seven of HC’s user manual HC015.pdf. I do not think anything has changed for HC016.

Yes there are some changes:

*MATRIX AUTOQ2 got changed to *MATRIX AVAMAT7
*MATRIX AVAMAT6 was added.

I found out that HC shoots over the max bitrate also if you using cq_maxbitrate. So you can't do a SVCD with 2400 as max bitrate. I added a notice to my final release of GetCQ

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| HCbatch - MPEG2 encoder - rel. 0.16 beta |
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input: c:\programme\getcq\avs\gcqprediction.avs
output: h:\out.m2v

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| encoder settings |
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profile: FAST
frames: 1 2448
framerate: 25.00
aspect ratio: 4:3
bitrate: NA
max. bitrate Kb/s: 2400
pass: 1 (Constant Quant)
constant Q: 31.000
closed gops: no
VBV check: yes
scene change det.: yes
interlaced: yes, TFF
goplen,B-pic: 12 2
dc_precision: 10
scan method: ALTERNATE
bias: 30
chapter frames: 0
time code: 0 0 0 0
CPU: SSE2
matrix: AVAMAT6

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| source stats |
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nr. of frames in source: 2448
width*height: 480*576
fps: 25.00
nr. of frames to encode: 2448
frames to encode: 1 - 2448

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| encoding - pass 1 |
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pass 1 encoding time: 0:01:09 (69 s)
average fps: 35.7

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| encoding stats |
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total encoding time: 0:01:09 (69 s)

intra matrix used
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 35
19 22 26 27 29 34 35 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 35 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 50
26 27 29 35 40 48 50 60
27 29 35 40 48 50 60 62

non-intra matrix used
16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44
20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48
24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52
28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56
32 36 40 44 48 52 56 58
36 40 44 48 52 56 58 60
40 44 48 52 56 58 60 62
44 48 52 56 58 60 62 62

nr. of gops: 208
nr. of frames: 2448
nr. of I-frames: 208
nr. of P-frames: 782
nr. of B-frames: 1458
average quant (non linear): 31.000
VBV underflows detected: 0
VBV underflows fixed: 0
minimum bitrate: 612
maximum bitrate: 2859
average bitrate: 866


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| HCbatch - MPEG2 encoder - rel. 0.16 beta |
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input: c:\programme\getcq\avs\gcqprediction.avs
output: h:\out.m2v

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| encoder settings |
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profile: FAST
frames: 1 2448
framerate: 25.00
aspect ratio: 4:3
bitrate: NA
max. bitrate Kb/s: 2400
pass: 1 (Constant Quant)
constant Q: 1.000
closed gops: no
VBV check: yes
scene change det.: yes
interlaced: yes, TFF
goplen,B-pic: 12 2
dc_precision: 10
scan method: ALTERNATE
bias: 30
chapter frames: 0
time code: 0 0 0 0
CPU: SSE2
matrix: AVAMAT6

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| source stats |
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nr. of frames in source: 2448
width*height: 480*576
fps: 25.00
nr. of frames to encode: 2448
frames to encode: 1 - 2448

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| encoding - pass 1 |
---------------------

pass 1 encoding time: 0:05:14 (314 s)
average fps: 7.8

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| encoding stats |
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total encoding time: 0:05:14 (314 s)

intra matrix used
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 35
19 22 26 27 29 34 35 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 35 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 50
26 27 29 35 40 48 50 60
27 29 35 40 48 50 60 62

non-intra matrix used
16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44
20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48
24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52
28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56
32 36 40 44 48 52 56 58
36 40 44 48 52 56 58 60
40 44 48 52 56 58 60 62
44 48 52 56 58 60 62 62

nr. of gops: 208
nr. of frames: 2448
nr. of I-frames: 208
nr. of P-frames: 782
nr. of B-frames: 1458
average quant (non linear): 10.725
VBV underflows detected: 0
VBV underflows fixed: 0
minimum bitrate: 1962
maximum bitrate: 2859
average bitrate: 2255


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| HCbatch - MPEG2 encoder - rel. 0.16 beta |
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input: h:\vts_01_1.d2v.avs
output: h:\out.m2v

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| encoder settings |
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profile: FAST
frames: 1 40392
framerate: 25.00
aspect ratio: 4:3
bitrate: NA
max. bitrate Kb/s: 2400
pass: 1 (Constant Quant)
constant Q: 1.000
closed gops: no
VBV check: yes
scene change det.: yes
interlaced: yes, TFF
goplen,B-pic: 12 2
dc_precision: 10
scan method: ALTERNATE
bias: 30
chapter frames: 0
time code: 0 0 0 0
CPU: SSE2
matrix: AVAMAT6

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| source stats |
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nr. of frames in source: 40392
width*height: 480*576
fps: 25.00
nr. of frames to encode: 40392
frames to encode: 1 - 40392

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| encoding - pass 1 |
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pass 1 encoding time: 1:23:13 (4993 s)
average fps: 8.1

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| encoding stats |
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total encoding time: 1:23:14 (4994 s)

intra matrix used
8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 35
19 22 26 27 29 34 35 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 35 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 50
26 27 29 35 40 48 50 60
27 29 35 40 48 50 60 62

non-intra matrix used
16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44
20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48
24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52
28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56
32 36 40 44 48 52 56 58
36 40 44 48 52 56 58 60
40 44 48 52 56 58 60 62
44 48 52 56 58 60 62 62

nr. of gops: 3398
nr. of frames: 40392
nr. of I-frames: 3398
nr. of P-frames: 10162
nr. of B-frames: 26832
average quant (non linear): 10.291
VBV underflows detected: 0
VBV underflows fixed: 0
minimum bitrate: 1526
maximum bitrate: 4057
average bitrate: 2242


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[t_2]

Thank you Ebobtron, video_magic, prodater64. I will read the pdf and follow the advice. Didn't know about the "" where there are spaces.

@prodater64

I haven't been following MPEG2 encoders for more than a year now but followed the development of QuEnc for awhile. The problem there was the rate control was broken in ffmpeg. Also, have heard that TMPGenc has some specs issues. I was hoping that HC gives truly compliant MPEG2 streams, but your last post seems to indicate that there are problems here too... Do I follow you correctly?

[Prodater64]

@prodater64

I haven't been following MPEG2 encoders for more than a year now but followed the development of QuEnc for awhile. The problem there was the rate control was broken in ffmpeg. Also, have heard that TMPGenc has some specs issues. I was hoping that HC gives truly compliant MPEG2 streams, but your last post seems to indicate that there are problems here too... Do I follow you correctly?


I don't know from what post mine i could make you think that HC streams are not compliant! (or you quoted me wrongly). Hank315 said that HC Encoder gives compliant streams (in multipass vbr or cq_maxbitrate modes). I didnt investigate the stream structures, only play it in mi unique SAP, so weirdly could i to talk about compliants.

[alfixdvd]

Yes there are some changes:

*MATRIX AUTOQ2 got changed to *MATRIX AVAMAT7
*MATRIX AVAMAT6 was added.



I performed a search at HC015.pdf (2005/06/17) and HC015A.pdf (2005/08/08) and the strings AVAMAT and AVAMAT6 d'ont exists.

AUTOQ2 is the only reference.

IF HC016.PDF document exists and reflect this changes for AVAMAT, where can I get it?

Best regards.

[Revgen]

I performed a search at HC015.pdf (2005/06/17) and HC015A.pdf (2005/08/08) and the strings AVAMAT and AVAMAT6 d'ont exists.

AUTOQ2 is the only reference.

IF HC016.PDF document exists and reflect this changes for AVAMAT, where can I get it?

Best regards.

Hank mentions it here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=738836#post738836)

[alfixdvd]

Some news about HC016.

- fixes the playback on some strict players (Pioneer)
- pulldown issue is fixed, streams can be pulldowned for PAL and NTSC GOP lengths
- updated 1 pass CQ_MAXBITRATE run, should result in better prediction
- autoq2 matrix replaced with avamat6 and avamat7 (both by Amnon82)

Some of this is already in the latest test releases but not all.


Sure are they all ?

[Ebobtron]

Sure are they all ?

Maybe look here when Hank released 16 and repeated the list.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=738836#post738836



Ebobtron
http://members.aol.com/avsfilmcutter

[hank315]

The GUI for HC016 is finally finished, also some bug fixes for the batch version and the manual is updated.

The GUI version doesn't have a built in encoder anymore, it uses the batch version for encoding.
It has some new features:
- load and save ini files
- preview function
- setting chapter points

Get it at http://hank315.dyndns.org/HC_016.zip

Recommended Avisynth version: 2.5.6a

[katjarella]

Hello hank315, tested the straight final. It is already again the freezing error available. This was noticeable to me already in the beta GUI and evening yesterday by VNC session LigH showed.

Test-Scripts:v1=ImageReader("*path*\MIXVideo.bmp",0,0,25,pixel_type="rgb24")
v2=Loop(v1,18).FadeIn(28,$FF0000)
v3=AlignedSplice(v1,v2,v1)
v3=LanczosResize(v3,720,576)
return ConvertToYV12(v3)
---- OR -----
v1=ImageReader("*path*\MIXVideo.bmp",0,0,25,pixel_type="rgb24")
v2=Loop(v1,18).FadeIn(28,$FF0000)
AlignedSplice(v1,v2,v1)
LanczosResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12()


It is however not to be verified. Times a Script goes, then again the other one. Times I do not have to press "RESET GUI default", then again. It is to to be moved. Under XP or the HCbatch_016.exe alone functions.

sorry google translate :stupid:

[dragongodz]

katjarella - i tried the second example and all worked fine. can you say what exact settings you used in HC ? also have you updated to avisynth 2.5.6 ?

[neo squidward]

@hank315
I dont know if this is a bug or not but when I load a avisynth script into the GUI it doesnt read the movie info, I can't change the bitrate, everything on the "preview chapters" tab is grayed out, and "encode" button is grayed out.

[feedback]

The GUI for HC016 is finally finished, also some bug fixes for the batch version and the manual is updated.

The GUI version doesn't have a built in encoder anymore, it uses the batch version for encoding.
It has some new features:
- load and save ini files
- preview function
- setting chapter points

Get it at http://hank315.dyndns.org/HC_016.zip

Recommended Avisynth version: 2.5.6a
So this batch 0.16.0.1 version, with the bug fixes, should be fine with DVD-Rebuilder Pro. right? I am presently using HCbatch 0.16.0.0. with RB.

Regards,:)

[MarkP]

@feedback

The .exe in this .zip is still called HCbatch_0.16 but when running the title bar reports HCbatch0.16A beta so not sure about 0.16.0.1 you mention

Used it last night to encode a movie with RB and quality seems very good at first glance

[linx05]

@MarkP

When you ask for version info of HC Encoder Batch from HC Encoder GUI, it returns the 0.16.0.1 version.

[MarkP]

Well that maybe the case, was only saying what the title bar says when batch is running

[Ebobtron]

@ Hank,
Wow, another great improvement.
Love the new gui.

Question:
Are we stuck with the frame offset between AviSynth and HC?
HC's frame 10 is AviSynth's frame 9.

A feature I intend to add to avsFilmCutter's (http://members.aol.com/avsfilmcutter) scene editor is a chapter list generator much like the one in HC's gui. I can offset my list, but it would be nice if I did not have to. What say you?

Feature request:
Because you have the best scene detector I have ever seen. Could you maybe create a non encoding scene detection pass for HC. Which we could then look at and modify as needed.

Again, great work and thank you for it.
Ebobtron

[Amnon82]

@katjarella you can also test my gui called HIG. You can find it here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=741367#post741367).
It creates also HC.ini-Files. Hope it helps.

[hank315]

@All
The batch version (0.16.0.1 = HCbatch016A) just didn't made into DVD-RB 1.05 because at the time I mailed it to jdobbs the 1.05 package was already finished.
The 0.16.0.1 version solves an error using *CQ_MAXBITRATE in which it could get stuck.
So for those who want it to use it with DVD-RB just rename and copy/replace it.

@katjarella
I ran the first script and it came out OK with all settings I tried...
Will mail you about it.

@neo squidward
If you check the version with the button "Avisynth info" what does it say?
Also if loading an Avisynth script fails the info window should give the
error message generated by Avisynth, what does that say?

@Ebobtron
Are we stuck with the frame offset between AviSynth and HC?
HC's frame 10 is AviSynth's frame 9.No of course not, I've no objection if the Avisynth guys change it.
Just kidding... But you're right, it would be more compatible with other video apps.
Will be in the next release. (Although I still dislike the idea :( )

Could you maybe create a non encoding scene detection pass for HC. Which we could then look at and modify as needed.That's possible, will PM you about it.

[katjarella]

Google did not certainly translate correctly. And my Translators (LigH, scharfi) cannot be attained.

The HCbatch_016.exe functions. Only the HCGUI_016.exe remains hanging from time to time, if I load a Script. In the GUI see I "AVS file opened" and then still freezes it. Then I must close the Process so long and load different Scripte, until it functions times again. Also the GUI default Settings load , help here not always.

[petermarina]

The latest HC 0.16 also includes 4 versions of DGDecode.dll. Any info on these files?

[Brewskie]

so...why is it that HC 016 greys out the encode button and bitrate area for a simple script such as the following:

directshowsource("clip.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
convertfps(29.97)
lanczosresize(352,480)

?

any help appreciated

[Ebobtron]

so...why is it that HC 016 greys out the encode button and bitrate area for a simple script such as the following:

directshowsource("clip.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
convertfps(29.97)
lanczosresize(352,480)

?

any help appreciated "ConvertToYUY2()" HC only supports YV12 input.

Hank is a very nice guy. He gives you a hint instead of a hammer.
as far as your being useless, no help given. ;)

[neo squidward]

Turns out my problem was because I had ConvertToYUY2() in it. Thanks ebobtron

[Ebobtron]

Turns out my problem was because I had ConvertToYUY2() in it. Thanks ebobtronYou are welcome, sir.

@ Brewskie
Your question was not useless, it helped neo squidward too.

@ all
I hope that everyone caught the small ;) detail about HCGUI being a gui that uses HCBatch as the encoder. I remind everyone of this because you can expect the behavior of both to have changed a little. Which prompts the following from me.

Oh Hank,
HCGUI always overwrites HC.ini, not that there is anything wrong with that, I can pass the needed parameters to HCBatch except for one (FRAMES) in the command line arguments, I think it is just FRAMES I would have to go count.
*FRAMES start end enabled encode start to end
*FRAMES start end disabled encode all I am reluctant to offer a solution as I feel like I am picking the nit. Maybe HCGUI could pass an INI to HCBatch instead of overwriting HC.ini, leaving a default INI as a starting point for batch only operation or add -sf -ef to the param list.

Ok, I am done for today.
TTFN

[Mug Funky]

@ Brewskie and neo squidward:

Clouded's "motion" plugin has a function called "blendfps()" which works in yv12 and does the same thing as convertfps(), with a couple of extra options (like "aperture" which controls how "blendy" it is, 1.0 being pretty much what convertfps does, less being jerkier and more being blurrier).

you might want to try that out and see if you get faster encodes with it (theoretically higher quality too, but only chroma is affected and that's barely ever noticable).

[Brewskie]

Thank you Ebobtron and Mug Funky!
:D

[Asmodeus]

ok.
I've tested hc16 on freeBSD through wine, and it works perfecty (as all earlier versions). On my 1.5 celeronM360 laptop I get ~19fps, as an opossite to standalone P4 3.2HT with windoze ~30fps, so not so bad. No bugs for now.
Still waiting for separate fixed quantizer for each frame type I,P,B :) Hope it will be in next version... soon ;)

[hank315]

About the YV12 colorspace, ConvertToYV12(), I just forgot to write the message in the GUI :o , it's detected but not reported...

@Asmodeus
The fixed quantizers for each frame type I,P,B will be in the next release.
It will be implemented as multipication factors for P and B-frames with a range 0.5 - 2.0

@Ebobtron
Will add the frames start-end as parameter in the next release.

[Asmodeus]

@Asmodeus
The fixed quantizers for each frame type I,P,B will be in the next release.
It will be implemented as multipication factors for P and B-frames with a range 0.5 - 2.0
Nice ;)

[Mug Funky]

Feature request:
Because you have the best scene detector I have ever seen. Could you maybe create a non encoding scene detection pass for HC. Which we could then look at and modify as needed.

can i second this?

also, saving the exact GOP structure somewhere could be extremely useful for multiangle encodes - we're usually stuck with a constant structure for multiangles which is usually fine, but if you want to use scene-detection and autogopping on the main angle, and the 2nd angle isn't as important, it could be very handy to be able to encode the 2nd angle with the same structure as the 1st.

of course, this is by no means necessary (i don't know of any encoders that do this), but it may be the kind of feature that would set HC apart from the rest of the field.

[christoofar]

Hello

I still get this memory error message every single time I use HCEnc, which is bundled w/ AVI2DVD. The latest release still gives me this message:

[Prodater64]

Hello

I still get this memory error message every single time I use HCEnc, which is bundled w/ AVI2DVD. The latest release still gives me this message:


I think is the memory could not be read error.
So the issue is still present.
Try http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=703225#post703225

[christoofar]

Prodater-

thanks for yr response! But I am a little unlear on what to do with this "Kill Error" .zip. Do I just run the.exe once & it works from that point on? Do i need to run it each time I start my system? The other link in that thread specific to HCEnc HCEnc error killer no longer works.
Does Hank have any clue in how to eradicate this problem? This one issue prevents this from being an almost perfect encoder. :(

[Prodater64]

Prodater-

thanks for yr response! But I am a little unlear on what to do with this "Kill Error" .zip. Do I just run the.exe once & it works from that point on? Do i need to run it each time I start my system? The other link in that thread specific to HCEnc HCEnc error killer no longer works.
Does Hank have any clue in how to eradicate this problem? This one issue prevents this from being an almost perfect encoder. :(

If you want to forget the problem just run the exe (though a direct access in programs\start folder). The program will run every time windows start, it will be memory resident without take to much resources.
HC will give you the error, but kill-error will close its window, and batch encoding will go ahead.
If you don't want make it run when windows starts, run it just before use HC Encoder.

[christoofar]

Prodater

Could you explain step by step on how to do the direct access thru start folder ?
Sorry, not too sure on how to accomplish .
Again many thanks for yr help on this.

[Prodater64]

Prodater

Could you explain step by step on how to do the direct access thru start folder ?
Sorry, not too sure on how to accomplish .
Again many thanks for yr help on this.

No problem.

1 - Download kill-error_en.zip
2 - Unzip it in any folder you want (i.e. i have it in a program files\misc folder)
3- Drag it (Kill-error_en.exe) with RIGHT mouse button to taskbar, start, programs, start. Once start menu opens , drop inside it the file and select "create direct access" when the popup shows you. Maybe the words are a little bit different as my OS is in spanish, but you will know how to do it for sure.

[christoofar]

Not seeing where this comes into play:
3- Drag it (Kill-error_en.exe) with RIGHT mouse button to taskbar, start, programs, start. Once start menu opens , drop inside it the file and select "create direct access" when the popup shows you.

I was able to right click/drag the .exe onto the Taskbar, but from there, I am not clear on what to do next. Are you saying to leave the .exe in the Taskbar, but to add a shortcut to it in the Startup folder?

[christoofar]

ok..I think that I have it running on startup now, as I did the above ( created shortcut to .exe in taskbar in StartUp folder.) Is it possible to do this , but have the .exe in another location other than the taskbar? It also added two .dlls to my taskbar - kind of cluttered up now. But I can live with it, if it isn't possible... ;)

[Prodater64]

ok..I think that I have it running on startup now, as I did the above ( created shortcut to .exe in taskbar in StartUp folder.) Is it possible to do this , but have the .exe in another location other than the taskbar? It also added two .dlls to my taskbar - kind of cluttered up now. But I can live with it, if it isn't possible... ;)

You almost get it.
If you create a shorcut in start folder, and not put the exe direct in the folder, those dlls will be where you unziped kill-error.exe (a folder for it) and in start folder only will be the shorcut.
Please, any further question in kill-error_en.zip thread as here is a little bit off topic.

@all: Sorry for off topic issue.

[christoofar]

So sorry, thought this was a thread about the newest release of HC encoder ,where problems regarding bugs were discussed. I'd mistakenly considered this memory error msg to be a bug. Apologies to all. :(

[Prodater64]

So sorry, thought this was a thread about the newest release of HC encoder ,where problems regarding bugs were discussed. I'd mistakenly considered this memory error msg to be a bug. Apologies to all. :(

The error could be a bug, but how to install or do use kill-error is not from this topic, but from its own.

[christoofar]

Ok. So is this error msg that I get every single time I use HCenc a rarity among users, or do others have similar prolems? Obviously, once you close down the error message,things continue on as normal. The problem for me is - this totally throws the "unattended" feature of using HC with any conversion apps out the window. It doesn't allow your project to complete unless you go back & click on the close button of the error. I have had this issue since I first tried HCenc. Does the author recognize this as a bug in the app itself, or does it have to do with individual users systems?

[Prodater64]

Ok. So is this error msg that I get every single time I use HCenc a rarity among users, or do others have similar prolems? Obviously, once you close down the error message,things continue on as normal. The problem for me is - this totally throws the "unattended" feature of using HC with any conversion apps out the window. It doesn't allow your project to complete unless you go back & click on the close button of the error. I have had this issue since I first tried HCenc. Does the author recognize this as a bug in the app itself, or does it have to do with individual users systems?

That is something that will have to answer Hank315.
Meanwhile, if you do use kill-error, you will be able to use HC Encoder "unattended". I coded that little app just with that purpose and it works nicely.
A little number of users had that problem also.
Many other apps have same problem also, so maybe is related with C++, XP or another unknown reason.

[christoofar]

OK, then at least I know that it isn't just an issue for me only :)

Although, please see my response to your other thread on the hc killer app.
& thanks for your help!

[Prodater64]

OK, then at least I know that it isn't just an issue for me only :)

Although, please see my response to your other thread on the hc killer app.
& thanks for your help!


Your welcome.

[neo squidward]

I don't know where to put feature requests, I apologize if this isn't the right place.

A good feature would be to have HC apply pulldown when the input is 23.976fps. Right now you have to do pulldown after encode of 23.976fps video.

[DSP8000]

Hi guys,

Just wanted to congratulate to Hank for coding such a great encoder,good on ya :).The new release surely features some improvements & nice GUI,interlaced sources look better as well & the custom matrices are just another bonus.My tests so far show that DV sources look great with AVAMAT6,7 matrices(depends on the desired final bitrate).
One feature that I'd like to see in HC is (interlaced,progressive)croping & resizing,DeNoising based on AVISynth,it would help a lot when processing VHS Sources.There are some tools that do this & of course you can do it with AVISynth manualy.AR correction is a nice feature as well.Since we have preview function in HC would be nice to have these options on board :cool:.
Keep up the good work Hank.

DSP8000

[CobraX]

Which is the latest version of HC Encoder? I downloaded the one on the Doom9 website. When I start HCBatch it says "HCbatch0.16A beta" in the title screen and when I start HCGUI it says "HC016 beta" in the title screen. I thought 0.16.1 was out too? If so where can I get it?

[Pasqui]

@CobraX
You have the latest version available. HCBatch 0.16A is also known as HCBatch 0.16.1.

[Asmodeus]

704x480, 23,976, and HCenc gives me warning that this is not DVD compliant framerate :confused: Of course I can't start encoding (press encode, blink of encoder window, and back to gui).
Help ?
Actualy I must add, that I don't remember to have this error under wine, strange :|