x264 and Sony PSP?

[gabbon]

HI, I just downgraded from 2.71 and first thing to try was PMP AVC. I have to admit its really nice piece of homebrew and it works fine. I would like to ask, what possible features of h264 can be set for this. I just tried my ordinary profiles in Megui (using modified x264 of course) and it didnt work, then tried the examples on the homepage and they expextedly did work. But they are pretty simple...I was wondering if it wouldnt be able to cope with other features of x264 (at least some of them). I would like to know which ones....the example megui profile would be the best. Thanks a lot and also my big thaks to the creators of PMP AVC.

[Sudds]

@Gabbon, ave asked Sharktooth about this mate, but i dont think he likes the idea of modifing MeGUI just for this container.
It would be awesome though...

[jonny]

@gabbon:

Main profile, level 3, no bframes.
Every option trigging an higher profile will not work.
Also using more than one encoding thread break compatibility (in this case frames are divided in slices and this is not supported).
We are using the internal psp decoder and there are no rooms for improvements (the only thing that could be still added is a limited bframes support)

[gabbon]

@Jonny

Doesnt really matter anymore, I tried 2-pass 768kBit/s with few sample anime episodes and it looks absolutelly marveluos even without other features - nothing to improve :). Compared to my old encodes in 368*208 its much sharper (well that was to be expected) but even more importantly no "fucked up edges of red/crimson objects" (probably present thanks to "ingenius" PSP resizing filter)!!! So I am more than satisfied now.
Thx a lot for this very useful program :thanks:

[CruNcher]

jonny whats about CAVLC usage ? it's a little strange that the Internal Player (Media Engine) doesn't support it, as it is a Main Profile feature, especialy if you look on the fact that you could save alot of Power with it ? and what's going on about UMD Mode no one is trying to get that working @ the moment ?

[jonny]

it's a little strange that the Internal Player (Media Engine) doesn't support it, as it is a Main Profile feature

it doesn't look so strange to me :)
you should also think that the stream is already "basterdized" to be decodable


and what's going on about UMD Mode no one is trying to get that working @ the moment ?

afaik no
i guess the main reason is lack of motivation
the latest tries/api exposed is at the end of this thread:
http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=5820

[conkeroo]

Dows anyone know the best way to encode animation with subtitles?
Is there a command in the aviscript to encode subtitles??

[foxyshadis]

VobSub() and TextSub(), both part of VSFilter, which can be loaded into avisynth as a plugin.

[conkeroo]

Ive used vsfilter.dll having extracted the subs to .srt but
when it comes to encoding, i get

"avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )
x264 [error]: could not open input file 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\widesubtitles.avs'".

I dont know what the problem is because when i open the
aviscript, the preview window opens with the subtitles
showing and all seems well.
My aviscript looks like this:

global MeGUI_darx = 0
global MeGUI_dary = 0
DGDecode_mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\VTS_01_1.d2v",cpu=4,info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true)
#Not doing anything because the source is progressive
crop( 0, 0, 0, 0)

LanczosResize(368,208) # Lanczos (Sharp)
Undot() # Minimal Noise
Tweak(sat=1.7, bright=17, cont=1.1)
LoadPlugin("VSfilter.dll")
TextSub("C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\Subs.srt")

Anyone have any ideas?

[bond]

wrong colorspace

add converttoyv12() at the end of your .avs script

[conkeroo]

Thanks for the tip Bond but still no go.
Any other ideas cos im at a complete loss. :sly:
Cheers.

[conkeroo]

No worries. All sorted!!
Plugin path wasnt right but i fixed that and worked perfectly.
:rolleyes:

[foxyshadis]

DIB is not wrong colorspace, it's the avisynth error colorspace. Changing the colorspace won't help. You always have to load it into virtualdub and see what error shows up, until x264 gets avisynth error handling. (On the todo list.)

[shido]

I'm kinda late to this thread, but I've been having some issues encoding in AVC for my PSP. I've used the PD-PSP profile and made the necessary changes to it to make it compatible with the PSP. (main profile 2.1, 1 bframe, 1 reference frame) I've also unchecked the option to have megui automatically control the amount of threads during encode. Now here's my problem. I'm able to make an encode of a 5 minute video clip work on the PSP. But when using the exact same settings, an encode of an hour-long video gives me the "unsupported format" message, and is unplayable on the PSP. I'm using firmware 2.81 and have been placing the videos in a "VIDEO" folder on the root of the memory stick. Like I said, shorter video clips seem to work, while longer ones fail, even at the same settings.

[deets]

whats your audio settings?

try my profiles from my sig

[shido]

whats your audio settings?

try my profiles from my sig

Hmm, I don't think it's the audio settings, cause I can play the audio if I put it in the music folder. But I use Besweet with the Nero AAC encoder, using LC AAC at 96kbps. The weird thing is, a short 5 minute video clip will work, while a longer 1 hour video clip won't even be recognized as a playable format by the PSP, using the same settings. It will only show that "broken" thumbnail, saying it is an unrecognized format. That's really what's bothering me.

Oh, and by the way, how would I go about making an Xvid file compliant for the PSP. I tried making one, and while the PSP would show it in the video tab, it would tell me that the file couldn't be played when I select it. I'm suspecting that I need to set the profile to simple in the config settings, but I can't find where to do that in megui.

[conkeroo]

Hows Things Shido.
Download this http://www.ertzumedia.com/PD-PSP.xml and just change the bitrate to whatever you want. Let me know how you get on. Should be ok!!

[shido]

Hows Things Shido.
Download this http://www.ertzumedia.com/PD-PSP.xml and just change the bitrate to whatever you want. Let me know how you get on. Should be ok!!

Not really sure how this profile was different from my last one, but it worked! Thanks a lot.

[ilovejedd]

Question, has support for higher resolutions been added to newer firmware (2.80+)?

Aside from homebrew programs, has anyone been able to create full resolution video playable on the PSP using x264?

This might be a bit off-topic but still of interest.

My brother has a Japanese PSP and I was able to use the P-TV service to download a couple of free (albeit DRMed) clips. It was saved in \MPE_ROOT\100AEV01\ with a .MGV extension and is accompanied by a license file. File naming is the same as for AVC pre-fw 2.80 (e.g. MAQ12345).

Here are the details for one of the clips.
* Movie Info *
Timescale 90000 - Duration 00:23:18.272
Fragmented File no - 4 track(s)
File Brand MSSV - version 18089859
Created: GMT Thu Nov 09 11:01:34 2006

File has root IOD
Scene PL 0xff - Graphics PL 0xff - OD PL 0xfe
Visual PL: ISO Reserved Profile (0x30)
Audio PL: ISO Reserved / User Private (0x32)

Track # 1 Info - TrackID 1 - TimeScale 30000 - Duration 00:23:18.196
Media Info: Language "Undetermined" - Type "vide" - Sub Type "avc1" - 41904 samples
MPEG-4 Config: Visual Stream - ObjectTypeIndication 0x21
AVC/H264 Video - Visual Size 480 x 270 - Profile Main @ Level 2.1
Pixel Aspect Ratio 3:4 - Indicated track size 480 x 270
Synchronized on stream 4

Track # 2 Info - TrackID 2 - TimeScale 48000 - Duration 00:23:18.272
Media Info: Language "Japanese" - Type "soun" - Sub Type "mp4a" - 65544 samples
MPEG-4 Config: Audio Stream - ObjectTypeIndication 0x40
MPEG-4 Audio AAC LC - 2 Channel(s) - SampleRate 48000
Synchronized on stream 4

Track # 3 Info - TrackID 3 - TimeScale 30000 - Duration 00:23:18.192
Media Info: Language "Undetermined" - Type "vide" - Sub Type "mp4v" - 1 samples
MPEG-4 Config: Visual Stream - ObjectTypeIndication 0x6c
Visual Size 160 x 120
Synchronized on stream 4

Track # 4 Info - TrackID 4 - TimeScale 90000 - Duration 00:23:18.272
Track is present in Root OD
Media Info: Language "Undetermined" - Type "odsm" - Sub Type "mp4s" - 1 samples
MPEG-4 Config: ObjectDescriptor Stream - ObjectTypeIndication 0x01
Self-synchronizedIt would seem that the thumbnail is embedded the clip. I wasn't able to play the video nor audio, although I was able to extract both using Yamb. Playing both the original and extracted clips with MPC and ffdshow just gave me an error. With VLC, it shows the time and the bar moves but I don't see or hear anything.

While the clip is reported as 480x270, I'm not sure if it's all that accurate. Although, assuming a macroblock size of 16x16, it would still fall well within the boundaries of Main Profile @ Level 2.1. The PSP reported it to have a video bitrate of 1000kbps and an audio bitrate of 128kbps. It might be interesting to note that the video also played on my US PSP when I put in my brother's memory stick, although it did ask me to set the time using "Set via internet" option. I haven't yet tried transferring the clip to a different memory stick and playing it from there.

[qyqgpower]

full res video is available since 2.8 with
Video: MJPEG
Audio:LPCM or μ-Law
in standard avi container.
no fps, sample rate, bitrate limitations so far.

place the file in VIDEO folder and you can play it from video menu.

also notice that VIDEO folder can accept standard MP4 files, no need to change the header, or rename the file to some special name anymore.

full res video in SP and AVC might be open to user in future according to software development director.

[Sudds]

Compression wise MJPEG isnt great.

[nahpxela]

How do you encode MPEG-4 SP instead of AVC with x264? Or better yet, are there any megui profiles for SP that works on the PSP? I know Sharktooth created the PD-PSP profile and that works GREAT for me, but I can't seem to figure out a way to create a proper SP encode w/o the PSP telling me it's unsupported.

If you guys have any profiles I could grab, I'd really appreciate it:)

P.S. It's for anime...

[Sudds]

Why do you want to encode to MPEG4-SP?
MPEG4-AVC is a much better codec, quality and compression wise.

[foxyshadis]

If you want SP, you'd use an (A)SP codec! Xvid, nero digital, divx, take your pick, but not x264 and not this forum.

I'd also assume you'd want to use the best codec that works. Is it a battery life issue, or something?

[nahpxela]

Well, I'm just encoding for someone else and they don't want the high quality. In this case though, the main reason is that the source is at 24000hz, and when *I* tried to convert it to 48000hz (I don't know anything technical so I tried it), the sound was all sped up. I'm assuming I can't do that so I'm forced to stick with 24000hz.

From what I read, SP and AVC requires 24000hz and 48000hz audio, respectively. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:) The source isn't all that great anyways, but people can't really complain about quality when it's free for them:p

And no, not necessarily has to be the best codec, but knowing which one is (isn't asking for the "best" on here not allowed? :p) wouldn't hurt. Whichever one that will encode SP (PSP doesn't support ASP does it?) that will work on the PSP and ipods will do.

Thanks for the info so far!

Edit: Trying out PSPenc...but if there's any additional sources I should read up on, please let me know:p

[deets]

i thought the 48khz requirement wasnt needed for later firmwares?

[molpurgo]

greetings to everyone, i am new in the forum and... a little newbie

I've read the whole thread but I couldn't find any satisfying anwer to my questions.
The movie, which I made with Megui AVC, profile PD-PSP Sharkthoot, runs properly on the Pc,
but after having transferred it on the PSP I noticed a disturbing audio delay.
I can speed up "Tempo" with BeLight's soundtouch option, but when seeking everything goes out of sync.
Any suggestions?

[deets]

whats your firmware?

try using the nero cli to make your aac mp4 before muxing, see if that does the same.

[molpurgo]

whats your firmware?

try using the nero cli to make your aac mp4 before muxing, see if that does the same.
thanks for the answer
the command line which I have used is this: NeroAacEnc.exe -lc -if D:\test.wav -of D:\test.mp4
but delay still remains :(
my FW is 2.71 (and I can't change it)
it is to underline that the conversion of the same file to PMP/AVC works properly
thankZ

[deets]

well 2.71 cant handle 25fps, only 2.80 onwards.

so if your source material is pal DVD then you will either need to change the fps of your audio and video or update to a newer firmware.

if your source is 23.97 or 29 then try a profile from my site and see what that does.

[ChrisBensch]

I've read this thread in it's entirety and I'm still having trouble. The only way I've gotten video to work on my PSP is by using PSPVideo9 (uses ffmpeg). I would prefer to use MeGui like I do for everything else. I keep getting "Unsupported Data" errors. I used the PD-PSP profile (even tried with Threads=1 instead of auto) and used nero cli to create my audio (naac.exe -he -q 0.15 -if "POTC T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY -227ms.wav" -of POTC.mp4), still no luck. I keep seeing that people are getting their stuff to work but no go for me. I have a PSP that cannot be homebrewed (TA-082 or whatever) and I have fw 3.02. Is there a page that lists some common "gotchas" or something for me to start with?

[ChrisBensch]

Maybe I should add more...I have been taking my DVD->MKV Avisynth script which looks like this:

MPEG2Source("POTC.d2v", info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true)
Crop(0,60,0,-66)
LanczosResize(720,288)

and just use the "convert.bat" that I found in this thread (modified a bit). I pass this avisynth script in and it does the rest creating a new AVS, then I feed this into avisynth, I've even done the command line stuff from the batch file but no luck.

[deets]

see my site for info.

the psp only handles mp4 video, your size is way too much for a start. either 320x240 for 4:3 stuff or 368x208 for 16:9 material.

[ChrisBensch]

I've read your site, which is great by the way, but I somehow missed that...thanks, I'll try again.

[ChrisBensch]

Wow, all that testing (three weeks on same movie) and finally it works...Video is the whole reason I bought the PSP to begin with...now my $200 isn't a complete waste. The 368x208 is max resolution, my encode of The Passion of the Christ is 368x144 after it's been cropped. Thanks so much!

[deets]

glad you got it working :) i know how you feel, took me eons to get the darn thing to play at the start until i realised the 2 threads used to cause a prob for the psp.

its actually a very good little media player!

[ChrisBensch]

Exactly! Yes, this little black box is a very nice little media player indeed. I ordered a 4GB memory stick for it (my 1GB is too small) and since I fly a lot, it keeps me from getting bored. My laptop batteries don't last for a coast to coast flight, but this should do just fine!

[deets]

Exactly! Yes, this little black box is a very nice little media player indeed. I ordered a 4GB memory stick for it (my 1GB is too small) and since I fly a lot, it keeps me from getting bored. My laptop batteries don't last for a coast to coast flight, but this should do just fine!

yeah exactly why i got one as well, the transatlantic flights now nip by :) i have a couple of spare batteries as well, just to make sure i make the full flight!

[molpurgo]

well 2.71 cant handle 25fps, only 2.80 onwards.

so if your source material is pal DVD then you will either need to change the fps of your audio and video or update to a newer firmware.

if your source is 23.97 or 29 then try a profile from my site and see what that does.
unfortunately not work for me.I have try also 29.970 fps, but not work.My source is Avi/Divx 25fps.
I have also followed your guide,(assume 24fps etc.) but not work.
Only soundtouch/Tempo correction with Belight work, but during the seeking all go outsync
anyway thanks...
and happy new year for all :)

[pseprodux]

hmm, i can't get my psp to detect any videos at all in my 'VIDEO' folder, with my psp saying "There are no videos." i'm not sure if that's because of an encoding issue, or something else.

i've tried encoding videos at various bitrates from 300 to 700, trying different fourcc codes, turning turbo on/off, multithreading on/off..but no luck. i've also tried using deets' profiles, as well as modifying the regular PD-PSP profile.

currently, my encoded video is at 320x240, 23.976 fps, ~300 kbps, with aac-lc audio at 48 khz and ~107 kbps. as far as i know, with firmwares 2.80+ (i'm on 3.03), the filename does not matter, and all you need is to place it in a 'VIDEO' folder within the 'PSP' folder.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

[qyqgpower]

and all you need is to place it in a 'VIDEO' folder within the 'PSP' folder.
read the psp's online help carefully:sly:
the "VIDEO" folder should be at root, not in the "PSP" folder

[pseprodux]

..man, i feel stupid for not catching that..but it works now, thanks.

[dssgorila]

Sure wish i could use megui with pmp.

@Johny
What settings did you use on the i-robot and madagascar trailer HERE (http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=4528&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)

I have yet to encode with such sharpness. I've tried a number of apps mediacoder, xvid4psp, the hacked x264 cli. I can't seem to come up with the quality and sharpness of those samples.

If anyone has any tips for me i would really appreciate it.

Thanks and Happy New Years to all.

[Schrade]

Here's an interesting post on PSP Fanboy: Downloading free hi-res videos from P-TV (http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/01/04/downloading-free-hi-res-videos-from-p-tv/)

Apparently there's a Japanese site (P-TV (http://www.p-tv.jp/genre.cgi?genre=ct11)) where you can download videos for the PSP and they use the full resolution.

Perhaps there's a way someone can try to download one or some of the free 16x9 videos (they have ones you can pay for and ones you can buy) and try to figure out how they're encoding them or what magic bits they're adding.

It sounds like they're DRM'd though as the videos expire after 7 days.

Edit: OK I tried it out. Not only does it do fullscreen video but there's also video thumbnails! Here's a MediaInfo dump from the video file:

General #0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Schrade\Desktop\MAQ00001.mp4
File size : 16.4 MiB
PlayTime : 2mn 234ms
Bit rate : 1146 Kbps
StreamSize : 69.1 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25
Tagged date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25

Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 2mn 153ms
Bit rate : 1004 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 270 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
StreamSize : 14.4 MiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25
Tagged date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25

Video #1
Codec : M-JPEG
Codec/Family : M-JPEG
Codec/Info : JPEG compressed
PlayTime : 2mn 152ms
Bit rate : 431 bps
Width : 160 pixels
Height : 120 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 0.008 fps
StreamSize : 6.33 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25
Tagged date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25

Audio #0
Codec : AAC
Codec/Family : AAC
PlayTime : 2mn 234ms
Bit rate : 137 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 1.97 MiB
Language : Japanese
Encoded date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25
Tagged date : UTC 2006-10-04 12:09:25


Here's some pictures...

File Structure picture 01
http://i13.tinypic.com/4humxvt.png

File Structure picture 02
http://i16.tinypic.com/2upe6h4.png

Thumbnail View
http://i1.tinypic.com/4975r8j.jpg

Viewing the Information 01
http://i14.tinypic.com/34pb41x.jpg

Viewing the Information 02
http://i1.tinypic.com/3ywbrlg.jpg

[Schrade]

Hmm maybe we can add thumbnails to the video by adding an MJPEG stream with proper dimensions into the MP4 container? This is looking exciting :)

[CruNcher]

Jep that could work (excited) but the other question is will the Sony Parser accept it in .mp4 as it does for .mgv and also from the normal VIDEO dir or only MPE_ROOT, if yes this has a very good chance to work (without firmware modification) the video thumbnail part at least, still we have to find out where the mechanisms inside the PSP firmware are that controll the 320x240/368x208 (pixel limit and final bitrate restriction) for the XMB, but also that is just a matter of time, thx Schrade for that really interesting info on the Online Content we all slowly get behind how Sony restricted the PSP for their own good :)

[Schrade]

Incidentally, they have a site set up on P-TV specifically for the PSP. Rather than using IE to download the file, I just loaded up their PSP website (http://www.p-tv.jp/psp/) and downloaded via that. The menus were switched to dropdown menus but studying the characters in the pictures it was easy to match them up and download the content directly via the PSP's web browser.

I've downloaded both 16:9 and 4:3 videos from that site now and ran MediaInfo on them. I've put the 16:9 video dump above, so here's the 4:3 video here:

General #0
Complete name : G:\MPE_ROOT\100AEV01\MAQ00003.MGV
File size : 123 MiB
PlayTime : 14mn 59s
Bit rate : 1146 Kbps
StreamSize : 509 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39
Tagged date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39

Video #0
Codec : H.264
Codec/Info : H.264 (3GPP)
PlayTime : 14mn 59s
Bit rate : 1004 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 270 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
StreamSize : 108 MiB
Language : Japanese
Encoded date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39
Tagged date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39

Video #1
Codec : M-JPEG
Codec/Family : M-JPEG
Codec/Info : JPEG compressed
PlayTime : 13mn 53s
Bit rate : 57 bps
Width : 160 pixels
Height : 120 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 0.001 fps
StreamSize : 5.81 KiB
Language : Japanese
Encoded date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39
Tagged date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39

Audio #0
Codec : AAC
Codec/Family : AAC
PlayTime : 14mn 59s
Bit rate : 138 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 14.8 MiB
Language : Japanese
Encoded date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39
Tagged date : UTC 2006-12-05 10:43:39



Notice how they're keeping the aspect ratio at 16/9 and using black bars for the 4:3 content? Also take note that all vertical resolutions are 270. (3 out of the 3 videos I downloaded had this..)

So I wonder if just making a video with 480x270 dimensions will work? Just guessing though.. I don't know much about how the PSP's firmware is restricting it.

[quake74]

I am sorry, but isn't it known already that you can go full res on a PSP using MJPEG? http://pspupdates.qj.net/2-80-plays-480x272-if-it-s-Motion-JPEG/pg/49/aid/72373

Edit: Or http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=906603#post906603

[Schrade]

I am sorry, but isn't it known already that you can go full res on a PSP using MJPEG? http://pspupdates.qj.net/2-80-plays-480x272-if-it-s-Motion-JPEG/pg/49/aid/72373

Edit: Or http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=906603#post906603

Yes, it's very well known. We're talking about full res AVC though, as this is in the MPEG-4 AVC forum in a thread about the same thing for PSP. The MJPEG referenced in my posts are for the thumbnail that shows up in the Video Cross Media Bar menu.

[CruNcher]

Some tip if you wan't to have thumbnails for folders in the Music dir you can just use a normal thumbnail as for videos just put it in the dir of the Album, but the dimensions have to be a little smaller i think (not sure tough) im searching for alot of such stuff, gonna publish everything soon what i found, im not @ home currently. Their are actually 3 pictures you can use 1. The Folder Picture (smallest) 2. The Properties Info Picture (little bigger) and 3rd the Cover in the Player Picture.