Trailer Flanked w/Clips upon DVD Insertion

[chupara]

Trailer Flanked w/Clips upon DVD Insertion

Hi everyone,

In the “Phantom of the Opera,” they’ve put everything in one & only (1st) VTS: there are no others on DVD.
There are also no extras but a Theatrical Trailer.
Thus, I’ve decided to put that Trailer before the movie.
Since it’s very similar to the main Menu (in opening scenes), it has be separated from the Menu with some visual/audio piece.
That’s what I wish to make: Warner Logo animated Clip — Trailer — the very same Warner Logo again — Main Menu.

There are 5 (Five) Titles altogether.
Title 1 – Movie
Title 2 – Warner Logo
Title 3 –
Title 4 –
Title 5 –
Title 6 – Trailer

I’ve tried to Jump to Title 2 in First-Play, then Title 6, then main Menu.
Or Jump to Title 6 in First-Play, then Title 2, then main Menu.
Both worked.
Yet that’s as far as my knowledge goes at the time: I don’t know how to put Warner Logo either after Title 6 in the 1st case, or before Title 6 in the 2nd case.

What’s the proper way to create such a sequence?

Can I make, for instance, some changes in Title 2 PGC’ so as to include the Title 6’s playback, then repeat Warner Logo’s playback?

Normally (in an unaltered DVD), Title 2 plays, – then calls root Menu.

Also, if someone knows how to do it, please extend this example to more than one Trailer (two, three, four, etc. Trailers/Previews, separated with the same clip/Title): this would greatly facilitate the understanding of how to resolve my current issue.

Thank you.

[jeanl]

chupara,
I can't give you a full description of how to do that, but it should be fairly straightfoward because 1) everything you want to use is in the same VTS (so it can be referenced by any PGC without any problem), and 2) everything seems to be already cut in the right pieces (for example the logo isn't stuck in the same cell as the movie).

As usual, there's many ways you could do what you want.
I think the simplest idea might be to create a new PGC. This PGC would start with all the cells that form the logo (it's probably just one), then the cells of the trailer (here too, it's probably one), and ending again with all the cells that form the logo.

You'd call this PGC from first play, then go from it back to the main menu.
This, I believe, can all be done in PgcEdit if you're careful.

I would clone the movie PGC (to create a new PGC with a new title number, with a bunch of cells in it - the movie probably has a bunch of cells, at least one per chapter so that's a good point to start from, since PgcEdit can't add cells to a PGC at this point, as far as I know). EDIT: you can also use the "New play-all title" function in the Utilities menu, which will create a PGC with all the cells that are present in the VTS.
EDIT: The latest beta can add a cell to an existing non-empty PGC. Get it here:
http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/beta/PgcEdit_winexe_0.6.1beta10.zip

Then I would modify this new PGC to make the cells point to the logo, the trailer, and again the logo, and remove all the remaining cells. You'd have to make sure none of the cells have cell commands, and adjust the cell flags to be non seamless between the logo/trailer/logo.

This technique is also valid if you have more than 1 trailer. It's simply a matter of creating a series of cell in a PGC that point to the stuff you want to play in a sequence.


jeanl

[chupara]

Hi jeanl,

Thank you for the prompt reply.
While I have been waiting, I'd tried the following: I've cloned Title 2 PGC with PgcEdit.
That gave me two Titles with the Logo (2 and the newly-created 7).
After that, I called Title 2 from First-Play, jumped to Title 6 (Trailer), linked to Title 7 (Logo), called root Menu.
It worked.

Then, I tried another way: Title 3 is the Warning Logo (all of the titles are single-celled, as you thought). It plays first. Then goes Title 2 (logo).
So, I've replaced the cell in Title 3 with the Logo.
That gave me two Logos, playing in a row before the root Menu.
I've started with Title 3, jumped to Title 6, linked Title 6 to Title 2.
It worked also.

Then I thought of the third way: I've cut-off the end-credits of the Trailer (last several seconds), separating that part of the cell into Cell 2 of the Trailer's PGC.
Then, I've replaced the contents of the 2nd Cell with the Logo.
Thence, I've gotten Title 6 playing Trailer than Logo (from its 2 respective Cells).
After that, the 1st way from my initial post (Title 2 -- Title 6 -- root Menu) started to work.

Finally, I've gotten your response and tried the multi-celled method you suggested.
But instead of creating a new title/PGC, I thought, "Why not to utilize one of those six Titles that are already there?
So, I took Title 2 (Logo) and split its single Cell into three new Cells.
Then, I replaced the 1st & 3rd Cell with the Logo, and the 2nd Cell -- w/ Trailer.
But now I don't know how to:

1. "...modify new PGC to make Cells point to Logo -- Trailer -- Logo.
2. "...adjust the Cell flags to be non-seamless." Does this mean "discontinuity" box must be selected? (in PgcEdit)
3. How do I transport the content to the newly-created Cells? That's the main question for me. I've tried VobBlanker and MenuEdit , using "Replace" feature, but alas... -- due to my little experience/knowledge, I apparently did something wrong...
What's the right way/tool to transport cell content from one cell to another one?

Thank you.

[Taelon]

Sorry I didn't read the whole thread (can't really imagine why anyone would want more crap before the main menu) anyways, why not just insert Jump TT in the appropriate places?

Something like this:

VMGM, First play PGC
(add a pre command to set some unused GPRM# (mov) 1)
Jump TT #2 -->
Title 2 = Warner clip
Next PGC
(add pre command If GPRM# == 1 Jump TT #6)
Title 6 = Trailer
(add post command GPRM# (add) 1)
Next PGC
(add pre command If GPRM# == 2 Jump TT #2)
Title 2 = Warner clip
Next PGC
VTSM 1 Root Menu

I probably left some things out, but the idea should work.

[jeanl]

Yes, Taelon is right, you an do that using jumps from PGC to PGC, that also works.
To answer cuparas questions:

1. "...modify new PGC to make Cells point to Logo -- Trailer -- Logo.

you would double click the PGC, then go to the first cell, and click its VOB/CELL ID button, then adjust the sliders to indicate the VOB and CELL ID of the target cell (trailer, logo etc).

2. "...adjust the Cell flags to be non-seamless." Does this mean "discontinuity" box must be selected? (in PgcEdit)

You would go to the first cell of the next video segment, and click on the flag button and reset seamless joint.

3. How do I transport the content to the newly-created Cells? That's the main question for me.

Not sure I understand you. You will have created a new PGC with all the cells you need, then it's just a matter of jumping to that PGC from first play, then from that PGC to the menu. You'd use pre/post commands to do that, I"m sure you're familiar with that.

jeanl

[r0lZ]

You would go to the first cell of the next video segment, and click on the flag button and reset seamless joint.It's normally not necessary, since PgcEdit will do that for you when you remap the VOB/Cell ID.

[jeanl]

It's normally not necessary, since PgcEdit will do that for you when you remap the VOB/Cell ID.
PgcEdit is again one step ahead! ;)
jeanl