entering keyframes another way

Colyptic · 8th February 2003, 08:48

Hi,

I've encoded Carlito's Way 3 times now with XviD and it always seems to leave a 2:30 min. gap where I need to split the movie (the house party scene), where there is no scene changes. I always end up with a approx. 680MB file and a 715MB file.

I've tried two slightly different ways in the stats file editor (I have really no knowledge with) of Gknot but could never get it working right I ended up with 800MB files that didnt look good at all. I also tried rekeying in vdubmud and all I got was a bunch of delta frames.

Is there any other way to add a keyframe at that point without recompressing the avi I have?

Belgabor · 8th February 2003, 20:21

You could do the following:

Mark the first half of the movie and direct stream copy it to the 1st cd avi
Mark the next frame to the frame before the next keyframe and recompress that to a new avi (you cant go around this bit of recompression) 'A'
Direct stream copy the rest of the movie to a new file. ('B')
Append 'B' to 'A' to give you the 2nd cd avi.

Btw., what do you mean by 'rekeying' in VDubMod?

RathO · 8th February 2003, 21:12

I understand ur problem, but i dont know about re-keying... but have u try AviSplitCalc (im still using the v3.42!)

Ive been using this tool several times and you might be suprided with the results. You may get it @ http://ia.microdee.net/
Its a freeware of course

What i always do is: Options/Only show results.
Then i manually cut in VdubMOD. But u also may ask the little proggy to cut it for u. And it does a perfect job!

At least try it and let me know ur results!

Colyptic · 10th February 2003, 20:34

@Belgabor
What I meant by re-keying is popup extended options>redrive keyrame flags. I read it in the virtualdub guide on Doom9 and it said they don't really know if it works, never had to do it. When I think about it I've tried about 10 times now and this is the first time when vdub didn't crash, but it didnt work like I think its supposed, might be wrong though. Good suggestion on the recompressing it makes sense. I was thinking about recompressing the whole movie, or manually cutting it in DVD2AVI before I ripped it again. Thanks for the time saver :-)

@RathO
Tried that little program you recommend, it didnt work for this problem but it is a great program, saves the lazy people, like me,

a little time and hassle manually choosing where to split in vdub. Sometimes I have to split 5-6 times to get the right sizes, go to 3 or 4 CD files and I've spent hours splitting those up. I've used this little proggy 3 other times and its worked great everytime. Thanks for the info :-)

Belgabor · 10th February 2003, 23:22

This function does not what you want (as you probably recognized). Its use is to repair an avi lacking the index (aka it recalculates the missing information about keyframes).

8th February 2003, 08:48	#1 \| Link
Colyptic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 34	entering keyframes another way Hi, I've encoded Carlito's Way 3 times now with XviD and it always seems to leave a 2:30 min. gap where I need to split the movie (the house party scene), where there is no scene changes. I always end up with a approx. 680MB file and a 715MB file. I've tried two slightly different ways in the stats file editor (I have really no knowledge with) of Gknot but could never get it working right I ended up with 800MB files that didnt look good at all. I also tried rekeying in vdubmud and all I got was a bunch of delta frames. Is there any other way to add a keyframe at that point without recompressing the avi I have?

8th February 2003, 20:21	#2 \| Link
Belgabor VDubMod Devel Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 826	You could do the following: Mark the first half of the movie and direct stream copy it to the 1st cd avi Mark the next frame to the frame before the next keyframe and recompress that to a new avi (you cant go around this bit of recompression) 'A' Direct stream copy the rest of the movie to a new file. ('B') Append 'B' to 'A' to give you the 2nd cd avi. Btw., what do you mean by 'rekeying' in VDubMod? __________________ VirtualDubMod [SourceForge : Tracker/DL] (FAQ, Some rules) Be sure to also download the latest DLL package or get the all inclusive package! Before you post questions, please read the VirtualDub and/or VirtualDubMod FAQ. If you have a bug report or feature request for VirtualDubMod, be sure to read the rules first. We give 100% of your donations to the Open Source community

8th February 2003, 21:12	#3 \| Link
RathO tha Canadian Soldier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 216	I understand ur problem, but i dont know about re-keying... but have u try AviSplitCalc (im still using the v3.42!) Ive been using this tool several times and you might be suprided with the results. You may get it @ http://ia.microdee.net/ Its a freeware of course What i always do is: Options/Only show results. Then i manually cut in VdubMOD. But u also may ask the little proggy to cut it for u. And it does a perfect job! At least try it and let me know ur results! __________________ Sly tHE RathO "Pour le meilleur ou jusqu'a temps que je m'ecoeure!"

10th February 2003, 23:22	#5 \| Link
Belgabor VDubMod Devel Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 826	This function does not what you want (as you probably recognized). Its use is to repair an avi lacking the index (aka it recalculates the missing information about keyframes). __________________ VirtualDubMod [SourceForge : Tracker/DL] (FAQ, Some rules) Be sure to also download the latest DLL package or get the all inclusive package! Before you post questions, please read the VirtualDub and/or VirtualDubMod FAQ. If you have a bug report or feature request for VirtualDubMod, be sure to read the rules first. We give 100% of your donations to the Open Source community

10th February 2003, 20:34	#4 \| Link
Colyptic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 34	@Belgabor What I meant by re-keying is popup extended options>redrive keyrame flags. I read it in the virtualdub guide on Doom9 and it said they don't really know if it works, never had to do it. When I think about it I've tried about 10 times now and this is the first time when vdub didn't crash, but it didnt work like I think its supposed, might be wrong though. Good suggestion on the recompressing it makes sense. I was thinking about recompressing the whole movie, or manually cutting it in DVD2AVI before I ripped it again. Thanks for the time saver :-) @RathO Tried that little program you recommend, it didnt work for this problem but it is a great program, saves the lazy people, like me, a little time and hassle manually choosing where to split in vdub. Sometimes I have to split 5-6 times to get the right sizes, go to 3 or 4 CD files and I've spent hours splitting those up. I've used this little proggy 3 other times and its worked great everytime. Thanks for the info :-)