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10th June 2005, 07:48 | #101 | Link |
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Only DVDdecrypter could rip The forgotten movie with its new arcOos protection! For the future, rip guard is coming with the terrific digital code created by Macrovision . Great challenge to replace DVDdecrypter but with the risk to be prosecuted. Who will be able -and brave!-to do it? |
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I would say: DVD Decrypter was the only "free" tool able to do that. Cheers! Last edited by castellanos; 10th June 2005 at 10:41. |
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10th June 2005, 08:04 | #103 | Link |
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Yes, but will these commercial softwares be able to work still a long time against the laws in a shelter place? Another question: Who will be able to rip its original DVD in these conditions? Last edited by freelock7; 10th June 2005 at 08:25. |
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hm... good question freelock7... I ask my self the same.
However, the laws are different in every country, the fate of LINGHNTING UK! in England belongs at the moment only there, probably it could not happened in another country. As long as the laws allow them, AnyDVD or DVD Region+CSS Free are going to be alive in their respective country (U.S.A?) and also, we are going to be able to use them. Greetings! |
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Dvd95copy can also rip arccos discs. Its not free,but for about the same price as anydvd,it also processes/shrinks(with many options) and burns.
That said,I am now also looking closely at anydvd and DVD Region+CSS Free. I dont like having all my eggs in one basket. |
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Personally, I'm anxious for someone to take a crack at RipGuard. I don't suppose it's on any major commercial DVD releases at present. I was just reading about RipGuard at Macrovision's site. They sure do sound confident in it.
The more I think about the Macrovision scenario, the more I think they are the company to blame here. -abs
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Princeton professor Edward Telten has an optimistic take on RipGuard. I agree with him... provided that ripping programs become more like DVD players. Imagine a ripping program that exhaustively navigates the disc, as a player would. Most pitfalls of blind ripping would be avoided. Other reauthoring problems would remain, but I see that as a place for less mainstream "protection management" / "standards compliance" / "compatibility assurance" tools. Comprehensive disc analysis routines are already present in programs like VobBlanker and PgcEdit. Searching for unreferenced material and navigational impossibilities is not exactly a lingering challenge, thanks to the authors. The later program even has a habit of pointing out subtle discrepancies and authoring errors. Of course, these tools have nothing to do with copy protection, and I wouldn't want to imply any such functionality of those tools. This is just an example. Point is: I believe that this is the "end of an era", as LIGHTNING UK! suggested. Fair use and progress will not stop, but the workflow definitely will.
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11th June 2005, 01:15 | #108 | Link |
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Long Live Decrypting!
LIGHTNING UK! Thanks for one of the best programs I have ever used, and will continue to use.We need more people that are as dedicated as you have been! It may have been a free program (well worth my donations) but I never had a problem and it never let me down. If only the major software companies could develope software that worked so well.I have been fooling with some of the other Rippers and none can compare to DVD Decrypter!
Best of luck to you! S***W SONY S***W MACROVISION S***W Who ever is putting the SCREWS TO YOU! |
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In a way, it's a great compliment done to you LUK, you are feared. Of course, if these people who threatened you had half the wits of a bluebottle fly, they would have offered you an extremely highly paid job, instead of trying to sue you for probably the amount of money a small country generates in a year (I guess) Ayway, > 16000 views already, quite an impressive amount of support in general Is there a place one can donate so as to provide a lawyer for LightningUk or something? I'd like to help
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But what about protection tricks introduced that are not based on bad sectors? The RipGuard "Unique Digital Framework" I linked to a few posts up seems to indicate they have plans to mess with the integrity of the disc on many levels. Maybe.
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Well, we will just have to wait and see.
One of the mistakes made with DVD was not giving the command set enough power. When floppies were protected by the method Arccos uses (bad sectors) simply removing them, or correcting them, did not work because the protected program could check to see if a key sector was unreadable. That cannot be done in a DVD, the only way to access a sector is to attempt to play it. And the reaction to unreadable sectors is not standardized, but most players stop, some display a code. Nor can the command set check the size, which would indicate a shrunken/modified copy. Nor can it perform a checksum. In short, there is not much that can be done to make it both uncopyable and watchable. oh, and Macrovision is usually full of hot air. I don't understand how they continue to exist. I mean, If I wanted something protected, I would also want a guarantee that the method was at least worth the cost. They don't offer that, and can't because Macrovision has never prevented any movie from being pirated. Last edited by mpucoder; 11th June 2005 at 19:51. |
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Looks like someone is hoping to cash in on the demise of Decrypter.
http://www.dvddecrypter.r8.org/ http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=98 |
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Who is he trying to fool? "I lost all my programmers" and "I'm looking for a wide range of people including reverse engineer" should be enough to convince anyone that this is not the original author.
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These companies target the masses - Dumb asses like me and my girlfriend. But that doesn't concern us much any more. Right? I'm glad you are hopeful, mpucoder. You certainly have an intimate perspective, having written your own authoring program. After all, maybe it's just Britain... and we have the EFF on our side.
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The only reason I could accept was the law itself. And even that doesn't hold true anymore since the entertainment industry managed to buy them in their favor depriving us from our fair rights use.
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