Philips DVP642 + UDF File System

phenixdragon · 24th April 2005, 02:58

I am reading around on the forums here and I can not determine if this DVD player can read UDF files. Some people say yes, some are saying no. I guess what I want to know is the people who are saying yes how did you get it to work?

Also does this player play the AC3 in the AVI (Divx)?

gircobain · 24th April 2005, 04:45

There are no problems with dvp642 and udf discs, at least with firmware 0531 (the one i have on my player)
It seems you cannot load subtitles though (they get a question mark beside them)
I'm not sure if this is due to udf file system but it's not a big problem really, as you can load subtitles from any other disc

phenixdragon · 24th April 2005, 05:14

THanks for the info. I tihnk I will have to pic one of these up then. I didnt realize about UDF until today since I am pretty new to this all.

Thanks for the info!

phenixdragon · 24th April 2005, 05:27

Maybe I should post this in another thread but does this player also support AC3 in the AVI? I read some players don't but I am assuming this one does.

gircobain · 24th April 2005, 06:28

Yes, it does
No dts-in-avi though

Just to make it clear, when I said udf discs I meant dvd media burned using udf as filesystem
I don't know if files recorded on cd media with packet writing softwares (which also use udf) work - I never tried it

phenixdragon · 24th April 2005, 06:57

No DTS is cool. I dont thin I have found a DVD that only uses DTS w/o including DD. BUt lets say if one was in DTS, would it still play at least stereo or mono?

And you were correct on what I meant by UDF. I just meant burning it to a DVD using UDF.

gircobain · 24th April 2005, 08:31

dts-in-avi plays with no audio
dts tracks from dvd play just fine provided you pass them through to a dts capable decoder

phenixdragon · 24th April 2005, 08:43

Quote:

Originally posted by gircobain
dts-in-avi plays with no audio
dts tracks from dvd play just fine provided you pass them through to a dts capable decoder

So wouldn't that mean just like passing it through to my receiver? This would be hooked up with the optical cable to my surround sound receiver.

jshumate · 26th April 2005, 16:05

Yes, it means just passing it through to your receiver. It's up to receiver to decode and play the DTS tracks.
Just FYI, DVD standards state that for NTSC DVDs, if there is only one audio track, it MUST be either PCM or Dolby Digital. PAL DVD also allows MPEG audio as the only audio track. So, the standards state that if you have DTS on a DVD, it must also contain either PCM or Dolby Digital (or MPEG audio in PAL land). DTS only DVDs don't exist.

setarip_old · 19th September 2005, 07:49

Odd - I have never been able to get a DivX-compressed .AVI with .AC3 audio to playback with the audio on my Philips DVD 642/37 (Firmware v.1109).

DivX-compressed .AVIs with .MP3 audio playback perfectly, with audio...

Is there something special required?

setarip_old · 28th September 2005, 00:35

Surely someone has an answer for my question...

lordyu · 28th September 2005, 14:30

I have no problem playing AVI files with two AC3 tracks on my DVP630/05 (UK model of 642/37). Maybe there is something wrong with your files? Try using VirtualDubMod to creat a 30s sample file from one of the big files and post it here or somewhere else and then we can test. Don't forget to set Direct stream copy for both Video and Audio.

PALace · 28th September 2005, 16:31

Well, they SHOULD play. You could also try AVI Mux, demux and then remux the audio, see news section for new version. There are also AVI Mux templates you can use for standalone preferred interleave etc. Works for me! Best of luck.

setarip_old · 28th September 2005, 21:17

@ lordyu
@PALace

Thanks for the feedback ;>}

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phenixdragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 48	Philips DVP642 + UDF File System I am reading around on the forums here and I can not determine if this DVD player can read UDF files. Some people say yes, some are saying no. I guess what I want to know is the people who are saying yes how did you get it to work? Also does this player play the AC3 in the AVI (Divx)? Last edited by phenixdragon; 24th April 2005 at 03:04.

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gircobain Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brasil Posts: 221	Yes, it does No dts-in-avi though Just to make it clear, when I said udf discs I meant dvd media burned using udf as filesystem I don't know if files recorded on cd media with packet writing softwares (which also use udf) work - I never tried it Last edited by gircobain; 24th April 2005 at 06:34.

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setarip_old Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,261	Odd - I have never been able to get a DivX-compressed .AVI with .AC3 audio to playback with the audio on my Philips DVD 642/37 (Firmware v.1109). DivX-compressed .AVIs with .MP3 audio playback perfectly, with audio... Is there something special required? Last edited by setarip_old; 19th September 2005 at 12:58.

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lordyu Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73	I have no problem playing AVI files with two AC3 tracks on my DVP630/05 (UK model of 642/37). Maybe there is something wrong with your files? Try using VirtualDubMod to creat a 30s sample file from one of the big files and post it here or somewhere else and then we can test. Don't forget to set Direct stream copy for both Video and Audio. __________________ For (much) better quality and (much) smaller file size, use PNG for screenshots or screen captures. JPG/JPEG is for photos.

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24th April 2005, 04:45	#2 \| Link
gircobain Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brasil Posts: 221	There are no problems with dvp642 and udf discs, at least with firmware 0531 (the one i have on my player) It seems you cannot load subtitles though (they get a question mark beside them) I'm not sure if this is due to udf file system but it's not a big problem really, as you can load subtitles from any other disc

24th April 2005, 05:14	#3 \| Link
phenixdragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 48	THanks for the info. I tihnk I will have to pic one of these up then. I didnt realize about UDF until today since I am pretty new to this all. Thanks for the info!

24th April 2005, 05:27	#4 \| Link
phenixdragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 48	Maybe I should post this in another thread but does this player also support AC3 in the AVI? I read some players don't but I am assuming this one does.

24th April 2005, 06:57	#6 \| Link
phenixdragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 48	No DTS is cool. I dont thin I have found a DVD that only uses DTS w/o including DD. BUt lets say if one was in DTS, would it still play at least stereo or mono? And you were correct on what I meant by UDF. I just meant burning it to a DVD using UDF.

24th April 2005, 08:31	#7 \| Link
gircobain Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brasil Posts: 221	dts-in-avi plays with no audio dts tracks from dvd play just fine provided you pass them through to a dts capable decoder

26th April 2005, 16:05	#9 \| Link
jshumate Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 201	Yes, it means just passing it through to your receiver. It's up to receiver to decode and play the DTS tracks. Just FYI, DVD standards state that for NTSC DVDs, if there is only one audio track, it MUST be either PCM or Dolby Digital. PAL DVD also allows MPEG audio as the only audio track. So, the standards state that if you have DTS on a DVD, it must also contain either PCM or Dolby Digital (or MPEG audio in PAL land). DTS only DVDs don't exist.

28th September 2005, 00:35	#11 \| Link
setarip_old Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,261	Surely someone has an answer for my question...

28th September 2005, 16:31	#13 \| Link
PALace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28	Well, they SHOULD play. You could also try AVI Mux, demux and then remux the audio, see news section for new version. There are also AVI Mux templates you can use for standalone preferred interleave etc. Works for me! Best of luck.

28th September 2005, 21:17	#14 \| Link
setarip_old Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,261	@ lordyu @PALace Thanks for the feedback ;>}