Sony NS-305 with PAL TV

xons · 21st April 2005, 20:42

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Search=Search&

If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.

But is this really true?
Can this dvd-player convert NTSC dvd's to a PAL output and can it convert PAL dvd's to a NTSC output?

Cause I got a tv that only plays PAL, and when I hook this dvd-player to it, it only plays in Black and White.

And I've looked everywhere, but I can't find a function to put it to PAL-output.

Does anyone know if it's possible, to put it to PAL-output?

SeeMoreDigital · 21st April 2005, 21:41

Quote:

Originally posted by xons
If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.

I think it will be important to know exactly what's written in the players "user manual" before commenting...

Cheers

gonzalo76 · 27th April 2005, 17:05

Did you read this post ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93121
Maybe it could help you.

gonzalo76 · 27th April 2005, 17:26

Quote:

Originally posted by xons
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Search=Search&

If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.

But is this really true?
Can this dvd-player convert NTSC dvd's to a PAL output and can it convert PAL dvd's to a NTSC output?

Cause I got a tv that only plays PAL, and when I hook this dvd-player to it, it only plays in Black and White.

And I've looked everywhere, but I can't find a function to put it to PAL-output.

Does anyone know if it's possible, to put it to PAL-output?

Well, I have a DVD Pioneer 373-s that has a "Dual System PAL / NTSC with PAL-NTSC video converter", and it really has it and works perfectly well.
It has 3 mode options: AUTO, PAL and NTSC.
My TV is PAL-N, PAL-M and NTSC.
Recently I was trying to watch a DVD disc that I bought in Italy, actually de DVD was PAL-B R2.
But my TV doesn´t support that format, so I had to choose the option NTSC in my DVD player in order to watch that PAL DVD in color. If I choose for example, the PAL or AUTO mode, I will not be able to watch it in color ´cause my TV doesn´t support PAL-B, that´s why I chose to NTSC. NTSC is the output mode, so my Pioneer dvd player has to "convert" PAL to NTSC.
If the option is PAL or AUTO, I will not be able to watch de PAL DVD in color because my TV does not support PAL-B.
Hope this helped you.

xons · 27th April 2005, 20:11

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzalo76
Well, I have a DVD Pioneer 373-s that has a "Dual System PAL / NTSC with PAL-NTSC video converter", and it really has it and works perfectly well.
It has 3 mode options: AUTO, PAL and NTSC.
My TV is PAL-N, PAL-M and NTSC.
Recently I was trying to watch a DVD disc that I bought in Italy, actually de DVD was PAL-B R2.
But my TV doesn´t support that format, so I had to choose the option NTSC in my DVD player in order to watch that PAL DVD in color. If I choose for example, the PAL or AUTO mode, I will not be able to watch it in color ´cause my TV doesn´t support PAL-B, that´s why I chose to NTSC. NTSC is the output mode, so my Pioneer dvd player has to "convert" PAL to NTSC.
If the option is PAL or AUTO, I will not be able to watch de PAL DVD in color because my TV does not support PAL-B.
Hope this helped you.

well that's the thing, I know for sure that there is no option to choose PAL, NTSC or AUTO. Not in the Service menu or in the regular menu.

xons · 27th April 2005, 20:18

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I think it will be important to know exactly what's written in the players "user manual" before commenting...
Cheers

This is what you posted in another thread:

But I still ask myself why people state that there's a Multisystem PAL/NTSC convert option in it...

or what it exactly means...

gonzalo76 · 28th April 2005, 00:41

Take a look at this thread:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks.ph...Sony+DVP-NS305

Quote:

Other hack posted by Pacho, April 30 2003:
Hi all,
I am not an expert but I think that the reason why sometimes R1 DVDs are displayed in B/W is because the Sony DVP-NS305 outputs an NTSC signal, which corresponds to R1, when playing such DVDs. NTSC video signal is displayed in B/W in european TVs that only support PAL.
I have an old but still very good VHS player that can output NTSC or PAL video signals. Guess what, when I connected the output of my DVD player to my VHS player and connected its output to my TV I had the R1 movie in colors.
I think that there is no much we can do if the TV does not support NTSC because the Sony DVP-NS305 does not have an option to output PAL or NTSC. Am I wrong on this?
Hope that you find a trick like I did in order to watch R1 DVDs in colors ...

Pacho

gonzalo76 · 28th April 2005, 00:52

Anyway, did you try doing exactly what the note says ?

I know the note says that you cannot change the color system of the DVDs, but you can try it anyway.

If you couldn't do it, I think there's nothing much you can do about it, 'cause the TV doesn't support NTSC and apparently the Sony DVP-NS305 does not have an option to change the output PAL or NTSC manually.

Good Luck !

SeeMoreDigital · 28th April 2005, 10:15

I'm sorry to say xons, there's nothing more positive I can add to what's already been written.

There might be some tricks you can do like routing your DVD players output video signal through a VCR (as Gonzalo suggested in one of his posts), or even a satellite receiver.

Then there's the "black-box" converter option. But such specialist devices such as this, can often be quite expensive (more so than another DVD player). And they don't always yield good results!

Cheers

zilog jones · 1st May 2005, 16:38

xons, are you in Europe and does your TV have a SCART socket? If so, just get a SCART cable and set your DVD player so it outputs in RGB (there might be a switch on the back or something in the menu). Then everything should display in colour, and with a better picture quality too!

SeeMoreDigital · 1st May 2005, 17:05

Quote:

Originally posted by zilog jones
xons, are you in Europe and does your TV have a SCART socket?

I assumed he's located somewhere in South America!

Cheers

zilog jones · 1st May 2005, 19:34

After some searching, I found in a previous thread:

Quote:

I live in The Netherlands

So, er, get yourself a SCART lead - it'll solve all your problems!

xons · 1st May 2005, 20:45

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I assumed he's located somewhere in South America!

Cheers

hhmm.. why would you think that?

I live in the netherlands, like zilog jones found out.

And I'll try zilog jones' solution...

xons · 1st May 2005, 21:38

Quote:

Originally posted by zilog jones
So, er, get yourself a SCART lead - it'll solve all your problems!

OH MY GOD!!!!
YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!

I've searched the whole internet for a solution to my problem for nearly a year and a half now.

thank you!!!

SeeMoreDigital · 2nd May 2005, 00:16

A scart connection will not necessarily enable xons to view NTSC DVD's on his "PAL only" TV.... but it's well worth a try!

But please make sure you buy a "fully wired" scart lead and not one of those cheapo composite only jobbies!

Although I have to ask you xons.... as a European user, why have you never tried connecting your equipment via scart before?

Cheers

zilog jones · 3rd May 2005, 01:39

Well if his TV can take RGB through SCART (which, if it's anyway half-decent it will), colour encoding won't matter at all - it won't be PAL or NTSC - it'll be RGB ^_^

And he said he can see NTSC in black & white - so his TV can take 60Hz video.

SeeMoreDigital · 3rd May 2005, 09:24

Quote:

Originally posted by zilog jones
Well if his TV can take RGB through SCART (which, if it's anyway half-decent it will), colour encoding won't matter at all - it won't be PAL or NTSC - it'll be RGB ^_^

And he said he can see NTSC in black & white - so his TV can take 60Hz video.

Very true

I wonder how he's getting on with it?

Cheers

xons · 4th May 2005, 21:43

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Very true

I wonder how he's getting on with it?

Cheers

By this post:

Quote:

Originally posted by xons
OH MY GOD!!!!
YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!

I've searched the whole internet for a solution to my problem for nearly a year and a half now.

thank you!!!

I thought I made clear that it worked.

But I did connect my equiptment with a scart-cable but I never put it on RGB. So I thougt it was the NTSC-PAL issue, which it apparantly wasn't.

21st April 2005, 20:42	#1 \| Link
xons Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 19	Sony NS-305 with PAL TV http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Search=Search& If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert. But is this really true? Can this dvd-player convert NTSC dvd's to a PAL output and can it convert PAL dvd's to a NTSC output? Cause I got a tv that only plays PAL, and when I hook this dvd-player to it, it only plays in Black and White. And I've looked everywhere, but I can't find a function to put it to PAL-output. Does anyone know if it's possible, to put it to PAL-output?

27th April 2005, 17:05	#3 \| Link
gonzalo76 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ARG Posts: 35	Did you read this post ? http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93121 Maybe it could help you. __________________ Greetings GONZALO

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gonzalo76 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ARG Posts: 35	Anyway, did you try doing exactly what the note says ? I know the note says that you cannot change the color system of the DVDs, but you can try it anyway. If you couldn't do it, I think there's nothing much you can do about it, 'cause the TV doesn't support NTSC and apparently the Sony DVP-NS305 does not have an option to change the output PAL or NTSC manually. Good Luck ! __________________ Greetings GONZALO Last edited by gonzalo76; 28th April 2005 at 00:58.

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	I'm sorry to say xons, there's nothing more positive I can add to what's already been written. There might be some tricks you can do like routing your DVD players output video signal through a VCR (as Gonzalo suggested in one of his posts), or even a satellite receiver. Then there's the "black-box" converter option. But such specialist devices such as this, can often be quite expensive (more so than another DVD player). And they don't always yield good results! Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	A scart connection will not necessarily enable xons to view NTSC DVD's on his "PAL only" TV.... but it's well worth a try! But please make sure you buy a "fully wired" scart lead and not one of those cheapo composite only jobbies! Although I have to ask you xons.... as a European user, why have you never tried connecting your equipment via scart before? Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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zilog jones Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 412	xons, are you in Europe and does your TV have a SCART socket? If so, just get a SCART cable and set your DVD player so it outputs in RGB (there might be a switch on the back or something in the menu). Then everything should display in colour, and with a better picture quality too!

3rd May 2005, 01:39	#16 \| Link
zilog jones Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 412	Well if his TV can take RGB through SCART (which, if it's anyway half-decent it will), colour encoding won't matter at all - it won't be PAL or NTSC - it'll be RGB ^_^ And he said he can see NTSC in black & white - so his TV can take 60Hz video.

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