Standalone: Problems playing DVD+R Dual Layers?

castellanos · 14th June 2004, 23:14

Hi there!
I've red in a famous german computer magazine, that besides the news DVD+R DL burners, it is a problem for Standalone players to play that burned DVD+D DL. It seems that they do not support that at the moment.
Can somebody confirm that?
Greetings!

Doom9 · 15th June 2004, 08:38

considering that such media is not widely available, I doubt now is the time to get reliable stats.. and c't reported that many standalones didn't have problems.. the number is not much different from players that can handle DVD+R. And considering standalone prices and that there's a new generation DivX capable decoding chip every 6-12 months, it shouldn't be much to ask to buy a new standalone. I'd gladly buy a new one to get HD resolution MPEG-4 playback, and I know bond would gladly buy a new one that handles MP4 with all the bells and whistles

castellanos · 15th June 2004, 13:51

Is that Philips dvp 642 what are you talking about?

SeeMoreDigital · 15th June 2004, 15:24

More likely the proposed new Kiss stand-alones...

I think we are all waiting for these to be released

Cheers

castellanos · 15th June 2004, 18:28

Oh, really... I was thinking to get that Philips Dvp 642.
Is the Kiss one better? Send me a link if there is one.

SeeMoreDigital · 15th June 2004, 19:48

We talked about the Kiss player in one of your own threads: -

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=2

There's also some info on the Kiss web site.

Cheers

castellanos · 15th June 2004, 21:29

Hi. Are you talking about the KISS DP-1000 or DP-1500? It looks very good and plays almost all. Do you know if this player can play all regions?
Because the Philips Dvp 642 does.

castellanos · 16th June 2004, 12:12

Hi. Already answered. The KISS players do not play all regions.
Pitty. In that case the Philips Dvp 642 is better.
Greetings!

castellanos · 17th June 2004, 14:59

Well, I am looking for a Standalone DVD player. I've seen you guys discussing a lot about the Philips DVP624. I have also seen the Kiss Dp-1500 which it is also very nice.
I need an advice. I would like to have a DVD player with the support for all the possible formats today, but I also need the DVD player to be Region Free.
So, please. Which one would you buy. Philips DVP 624, KISS DP-1500 (not Region Free) or may be another company even better?
Greetings!

SeeMoreDigital · 17th June 2004, 16:08

castellanos,

I would not worry too much about the Kiss player not being region free, at the time of launch.

I doubt very much that the Philips player is distributed from the manufacturer's 'region-free' either, as this would break their agreement with the film studios.

All of the present Kiss players can be made 'region-free' so there's no reason to doubt that the new players wont be able to as well.

Cheers

castellanos · 17th June 2004, 16:36

Thanks for you answer SeeMoreDigital, that's means that you suggest the Kiss one, right? Is there a special model by KISS that will you recomend?
Greetings!

Phobos · 26th June 2004, 18:29

im interested too

Phobos · 26th June 2004, 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
More likely the proposed new Kiss stand-alones...

I think we are all waiting for these to be released

Cheers

i looked at kiss website and didnt see anything ass-whoopng in their new players other than those crap wm9 ones, would you post a direct link?

jfcarbel · 9th July 2004, 20:12

The latest issue of MaximumPC just reviewed the Sony dual-layer burner and said they were impressed with the standalone compatibility.

They even tried it on older standalones. I think its too early to make a call on the compatibility of this new technology. Patience.

SeeMoreDigital · 9th July 2004, 20:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Phobos
i looked at kiss website and didnt see anything ass-whoopng in their new players other than those crap wm9 ones, would you post a direct link?

I did say 'proposed' new stand-alones

There's quite a bit of info about them/it dotted around the forum but how accurate the info is... only time will tell.

Cheers

castellanos · 13th July 2004, 05:47

Well, I've seen a few things... I have still two names going around my head "KISS & PHILIPS".
I want to by a new standalone player, as far as I could see, The KISS DP 1000 or 1500, and Philips DVP 642 are one of the best choices (I live in Germany, I think the Philips DVP 642 is not available here, in that case I've seen the DVP 737 with more or less the same caracteristics).
Please, help me to choose. Which player of them (KISS DP 1000, 1500 or PHILIPS DVP 737) is the best?
Greetings!

SeeMoreDigital · 13th July 2004, 11:14

As I mentioned before, some of us are waiting for the new range of Kiss players to be launched, which will incorporate Sigma's new chip-set.

In the meantime there is some good news as Philips is manufacturing and supplying the DVP630 to us people living in Euroland. Which appears to be Europe's equivalent to the North American supplied DVP642.

By all accounts this player will do very nicely. And performs well with Mpeg2/DVD and Mpeg4/mp3 in AVI.

It will also spin Mpeg4/mp3 in MP4 but not Mpeg4/aac in MP4....

Cheers

Phobos · 13th July 2004, 15:23

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
It will also spin Mpeg4/mp3 in MP4 but not Mpeg4/aac in MP4....
Cheers

I would've already buy it if it would, but wait, what about subtitles??

is there any gossip/estimated release date for those new kiss playars?

castellanos · 14th July 2004, 05:51

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
As I mentioned before, some of us are waiting for the new range of Kiss players to be launched, which will incorporate Sigma's new chip-set.

I see, well... Have you an idea when is the new Sigma chipset going to be released by KISS?
Greetings!

Sharro · 14th July 2004, 15:02

Nobody considers this one ?

I have one...and I'm damn happy with it (for avi container format).

All the best,

Sharro

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Standalone: Problems playing DVD+R Dual Layers? Hi there! I've red in a famous german computer magazine, that besides the news DVD+R DL burners, it is a problem for Standalone players to play that burned DVD+D DL. It seems that they do not support that at the moment. Can somebody confirm that? Greetings!

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	considering that such media is not widely available, I doubt now is the time to get reliable stats.. and c't reported that many standalones didn't have problems.. the number is not much different from players that can handle DVD+R. And considering standalone prices and that there's a new generation DivX capable decoding chip every 6-12 months, it shouldn't be much to ask to buy a new standalone. I'd gladly buy a new one to get HD resolution MPEG-4 playback, and I know bond would gladly buy a new one that handles MP4 with all the bells and whistles __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	We talked about the Kiss player in one of your own threads: - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=2 There's also some info on the Kiss web site. Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Hi. Are you talking about the KISS DP-1000 or DP-1500? It looks very good and plays almost all. Do you know if this player can play all regions? Because the Philips Dvp 642 does. Last edited by castellanos; 15th June 2004 at 21:42.

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Is that Philips dvp 642 what are you talking about?

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Oh, really... I was thinking to get that Philips Dvp 642. Is the Kiss one better? Send me a link if there is one.

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Hi. Already answered. The KISS players do not play all regions. Pitty. In that case the Philips Dvp 642 is better. Greetings! Last edited by castellanos; 16th June 2004 at 14:21.

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Well, I am looking for a Standalone DVD player. I've seen you guys discussing a lot about the Philips DVP624. I have also seen the Kiss Dp-1500 which it is also very nice. I need an advice. I would like to have a DVD player with the support for all the possible formats today, but I also need the DVD player to be Region Free. So, please. Which one would you buy. Philips DVP 624, KISS DP-1500 (not Region Free) or may be another company even better? Greetings!

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	castellanos, I would not worry too much about the Kiss player not being region free, at the time of launch. I doubt very much that the Philips player is distributed from the manufacturer's 'region-free' either, as this would break their agreement with the film studios. All of the present Kiss players can be made 'region-free' so there's no reason to doubt that the new players wont be able to as well. Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Thanks for you answer SeeMoreDigital, that's means that you suggest the Kiss one, right? Is there a special model by KISS that will you recomend? Greetings!

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Phobos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México Posts: 122	im interested too

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jfcarbel Programmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 335	The latest issue of MaximumPC just reviewed the Sony dual-layer burner and said they were impressed with the standalone compatibility. They even tried it on older standalones. I think its too early to make a call on the compatibility of this new technology. Patience.

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castellanos Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Argentina and Germany Posts: 663	Well, I've seen a few things... I have still two names going around my head "KISS & PHILIPS". I want to by a new standalone player, as far as I could see, The KISS DP 1000 or 1500, and Philips DVP 642 are one of the best choices (I live in Germany, I think the Philips DVP 642 is not available here, in that case I've seen the DVP 737 with more or less the same caracteristics). Please, help me to choose. Which player of them (KISS DP 1000, 1500 or PHILIPS DVP 737) is the best? Greetings!

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	As I mentioned before, some of us are waiting for the new range of Kiss players to be launched, which will incorporate Sigma's new chip-set. In the meantime there is some good news as Philips is manufacturing and supplying the DVP630 to us people living in Euroland. Which appears to be Europe's equivalent to the North American supplied DVP642. By all accounts this player will do very nicely. And performs well with Mpeg2/DVD and Mpeg4/mp3 in AVI. It will also spin Mpeg4/mp3 in MP4 but not Mpeg4/aac in MP4.... Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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Sharro Xvid Tribalistic Fan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portugal Posts: 264	What about Philips DVP 720 SA ? Nobody considers this one ? I have one...and I'm damn happy with it (for avi container format). All the best, Sharro

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